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Hey guys & girls!

 

Albeit being all excited about my latest shiny addition to my rig, I am confused about a recent change in my boot time.

 

Time to get "techy". My latest addition were a 250GB Samsung 850 Evo and a 3TB WD Green, resulting in the following hard drive config:

 

  • 120GB Kingston Now V300 Debian/GRUB/Boot
  • 250GB Samsung 850 Evo Windows 7 Ultimate
  • 3TB WD Green HDD (5400rpm)
  • 2TB Toshiba HDD (7200rpm)
  • 500GB Maxtor HDD (7200 I think)

Everything works perfectly fine except a highly increased Windows boot time. Before installing the WD Green I was running on both SSDs and the Toshiba drive Windows boot (at least the time the flag shows up) was about 5-10 seconds, now it takes around a minute!

 

I already googled a lot but couldn't find anything helpful. I'm 99% sure it has something to do with the Windows configuration, since Debian boots swiftly as usual.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks in advance,
Chris

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Maybe it is the way you dual boot the systems, I had this problem with my old laptop.

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Maybe it is the way you dual boot the systems, I had this problem with my old laptop.

The dual boot worked perfectly fine before installing the additional hard drives. I think Windows starts to read them during the boot or something, causing the delay - or it could be a driver issue but I have no idea.

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I've installed Samsung's "Magician" - Firmware is the latest one and I also did a "performance optimization" (TRIM) - nothing. I think it has something to do with the way Windows reads/loads the HDDs but I have no idea how to fix it..

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Try booting with just the bare minimum of peripherals attached to your pc (screen and kb+m)

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Have you taken your Green drive back out and retested..?

Maybe just throw that drive into an external USB enclosure and keep a nice boot speed.

Of course finding out if its a software issue is first priority, but does this still happen with the GREEN disconnected?

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How full is your windows partition? If it's too full the drive will choke at bootup.

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Try booting with just the bare minimum of peripherals attached to your pc (screen and kb+m)

 

Other devices are only my Audio Interface and Webcam.. No difference with or without them :/

 

Have you taken your Green drive back out and retested..?

Maybe just throw that drive into an external USB enclosure and keep a nice boot speed.

Of course finding out if its a software issue is first priority, but does this still happen with the GREEN disconnected?

 

No I haven't but I am sure that it'll be faster with the HDDs detached because that's how it was before. I definitely won't put the new drive in a USB enclosure.. I want it to operate as an internal drive.

 

How full is your windows partition? If it's too full the drive will choke at bootup.

 

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Other devices are only my Audio Interface and Webcam.. No difference with or without them :/

 

 

No I haven't but I am sure that it'll be faster with the HDDs detached because that's how it was before. I definitely won't put the new drive in a USB enclosure.. I want it to operate as an internal drive.

 

 

Fresh installation, 64 GB used, 169GB free.

USB 3.0 enclosures perform the same as Internal drives in most cases. I'm pulling 198/182 read and write from a 7200RPM drive in my USB3.0 enclosure, I went to a mates house today for a file leech session and saw these results first hand.

 

Enclosure for a 5400RPM no diff than internal,,...for Greens don't even saturate the USB3.0 bandwidth.

Plug it in when you need it,.. enhancing your boot speed.

/I'm not holding a gun to your head,.. just a suggestion. it's up to you.

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USB 3.0 enclosures perform the same as Internal drives in most cases. I'm pulling 198/182 read and write from a 7200RPM drive in my USB3.0 enclosure, I went to a mates house today for a file leech session and saw these results first hand.

 

Enclosure for a 5400RPM no diff than internal,,...for Greens don't even saturate the USB3.0 bandwidth.

Plug it in when you need it,.. enhancing your boot speed.

/I'm not holding a gun to your head,.. just a suggestion. it's up to you.

If your motherboard has a sata port on the external i/o you could use that, sata is hot swappable and faster than usb

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If your motherboard has a sata port on the external i/o you could use that, sata is hot swappable and faster than usb

Is there probably an option to keep the drive "unmounted" - the way it is in Linux? What I mean is.. keep it internal but to use it I'd have to mount it as I do in Linux?

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Is there probably an option to keep the drive "unmounted" - the way it is in Linux? What I mean is.. keep it internal but to use it I'd have to mount it as I do in Linux?

In Windows you can disable it until needed. and re-enable it.

But as for the Boot order>Windows Boot time frame I don't know if it would be invisible.

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