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Better than a 970 on a crap ton of games*

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The cooler is great but Imo the 970 is a better option now. The 290x only beats it in 4k and high resolutions. The 970 performs basically the same(if not slightly better) at 1080p and now also comes with a free game and overclocks better and wastes less power.Also there is a g1 gaming gtx 970 for 315$ so yeah.

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The cooler is great but Imo the 970 is a better option now. The 290x only beats it in 4k and high resolutions. The 970 performs basically the same(if not slightly better) at 1080p and now also comes with a free game and overclocks better and wastes less power.Also there is a g1 gaming gtx 970 for 315$ so yeah.

evga ftw 970 329$ way better than g1 970

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evga ftw 970 329$ way better than g1 970

No the g1 gaming is known to be the best gtx 970. Amazing power delivery meaning amazing overclocking potential and great temps aswell .The only other card which is as good imo is the evga ssc.

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evga ftw 970 329$ way better than g1 970

No, G1 is the best becuase of its overclocking features

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Better than a 970 on a crap ton of games*

Fixed it for ya!

Fanboy spotted. 

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Fanboy spotted. 

Please call me the guy Nvidia raped.

I hate Nvidia now and i will always hate them.

But i cant deny that the 970 does beat the 290x on some games.

I own two 780s myself 

Nvidia is to Dr Dre Beets as AMD is to KFC.

One makes you broke, the other you can get more of and have a midnight snack from the fridge when hungry again. Once you go Nvidia, you go broked, turn into an Elitist, or get the incorrect amount of VRAM.


- WCCFTECH

 I was only 9 years old. I loved Fifflaren so much, I had all the NiP merchandise and matches pirated. I prayed to Fifflaren every night before bed. Thanking him for the life I have been given. Fifflaren is love I say. Fifflaren is life. My dad hears and calls me a fuckhead. I knew he was just jelly of my passion for Fifflaren. I called him a Sw@yer. He hits me and sends me to go to sleep. I'm crying now, and my face hurts. I lay in bed and it's really cold. A warmth is moving towards me. I feel someone touching me. I feel someone touching me. It's Fifflaren. I am so happy. He whispers in my ear; "this is my pyjama". He grabs me with his powerful Swedish hands and puts me on my hands and knees. I'm ready. I spread my ass cheeks for Fifflaren. He penetrates my butt-hole. It hurts so much but I do it for Fifflaren. I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water. I push against his force. I want to please Fifflaren. He roars a viking roar as he fills my butt with his love. My dad walks in. Fifflaren looks straight into his eyes and says; "He is a ninja now". Fifflaren is love, Fifflaren is life 
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GET THE GIGABYTE GTX 970 G1

you will have the ability for shadowplay, it will run cooler and quiter, it has bigger overclock potential, and the overall gigabyte support is great

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The 290X is faster than the GTX 970, this is established common knowledge.

The benchmarks provided by s3ns3 are deeply flawed, look at the BF4 benchmark where they're showing the R9 290X tied with an R9 280X. I would hardly call those results reliable or in fact correct.

Based on the latest drivers and in an average of 19 different games the R9 290X was in fact faster than the GTX 970 in 4K, 1440P and tied in 1080p.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan_X/29.html
Lastly neither the R9 290X or the GTX 970 should even be considered for 1080p gaming, as you'll just waste the performance of such powerful GPUs at 1080p.
Unless you're running a 120Hz monitor an R9 285 or GTX 960 are better choices for 1080p.
 

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The 290X is faster than the GTX 970, this is established common knowledge.

no its not. stock per stock clocks the gtx 970 wins http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1056?vs=1355

however that is the gtx 970 G1 gaming. absolutely annihilates even the best r9 290X(vapor-x).and it still has room to OC more

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Lastly neither the R9 290X or the GTX 970 should even be considered for 1080p gaming, as you'll just waste the performance of such powerful GPUs at 1080p.

Unless you're running a 120Hz monitor an R9 285 or GTX 960 are better choices for 1080p.

 

 

These words are enough to prove how naive you are.LOL

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No the g1 gaming is known to be the best gtx 970. Amazing power delivery meaning amazing overclocking potential and great temps aswell .The only other card which is as good imo is the evga ssc.

Just curious. I already bough the G1 gaming and I agree it's one of the best but If I had the extra money I would've got the Galex hall of fame.

Wouldn't that have been better than the g1?

Either way, I think it's funny to see a hot deal post turn into the brand war lol.

I think the deal is over anyway in the 290x, when I

Clicked it says $349.99

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emm the gtx 970 g1 gaming is cheaper and puts the best r9 290x to shame http://www.thinkcomputers.org/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-970-g1-gaming-graphics-card-review/5/

Not trying to be a fanboy at all, and I actually have a gtx 970 reference myself, but those games are all not dx12. The r9 290x can match the titan x in dx12 games. 

http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-290x-fast-titan-dx12-enabled-3dmark-33-faster-gtx-980/

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/3DMark-API-Overhead-Feature-Test-Early-DX12-Performance

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Thats not a good deal at all i have seen it for much cheaper

Thats that. If you need to get in touch chances are you can find someone that knows me that can get in touch.

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Not trying to be a fanboy at all, and I actually have a gtx 970 reference myself, but those games are all not dx12. The r9 290x can match the titan x in dx12 games. 

http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-290x-fast-titan-dx12-enabled-3dmark-33-faster-gtx-980/

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/3DMark-API-Overhead-Feature-Test-Early-DX12-Performance

You just discredited yourself there, that's not an overall performance benchmark, it's testing specifically for draw call bottlenecks. Mantle does about the same as DX12 on these tests, and while it does increase performance, it's not even close to making the 290X as fast as the Titan X.

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You just discredited yourself there, that's not an overall performance benchmark, it's testing specifically for draw call bottlenecks. Mantle does about the same as DX12 on these tests, and while it does increase performance, it's not even close to making the 290X as fast as the Titan X.

I just described myself as a fanboy? I said the r9 290x is better than a titan x, yet I own a gtx 970... If you assumed I would buy the nvidia card over the amd card, for the same price, with lower performance, you are sorely mistaken. I bought my 970 for $309 no rebates/coupon codes. At the time of this purchase, any r9 290x was well over $150 more than my 970, yet the 970 beats the 290x at 1080p. Even the r9 290 was more expensive, which was what I was originally going to get. 

Can't call me a fanboy for making the smarter decision xD

 

Can you read graphs? They show that when a game/program uses dx12, performance goes up across the board. The amd cards gaining the most performance increase, sometimes even beating cards like the 980 and titan x in specific algorithms. Although now these specific algorithms are limited in their use, dx12 games are coming real soon and even though the r9 290x lags behind today, does not mean it will in the future. 

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I just described myself as a fanboy? I said the r9 290x is better than a titan x, yet I own a gtx 970... If you assumed I would buy the nvidia card over the amd card, for the same price, with lower performance, you are sorely mistaken. I bought my 970 for $309 no rebates/coupon codes. At the time of this purchase, any r9 290x was well over $150 more than my 970, yet the 970 beats the 290x at 1080p. Even the r9 290 was more expensive, which was what I was originally going to get. 

Can't call me a fanboy for making the smarter decision xD

 

Can you read graphs? They show that when a game/program uses dx12, performance goes up across the board. The amd cards gaining the most performance increase, sometimes even beating cards like the 980 and titan x in specific algorithms. Although now these specific algorithms are limited in their use, dx12 games are coming real soon and even though the r9 290x lags behind today, does not mean it will in the future. 

I never said you were a fanboy, just that you had no cedibility, because you said a 290X can match a Titan X in games, and it doesn't. That 3Dmark test only shows draw call performance, not gaming performance, on pcper they even overclock a 960 to almost the same performance as the 980, and everyone knows that you can't possibly overclock a 960 high enough to match a 980, they even specify themselves that this benchmark should not be used to compare GPUs, they are testing the APIs more than anything.

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I never said you were a fanboy, just that you had no cedibility, because you said a 290X can match a Titan X in games, and it doesn't. That 3Dmark test only shows draw call performance, not gaming performance, on pcper they even overclock a 960 to almost the same performance as the 980, and everyone knows that you can't possibly overclock a 960 high enough to match a 980, they even specify themselves that this benchmark should not be used to compare GPUs, they are testing the APIs more than anything.

Cant make a game without an api, and the next api is dx12...

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Cant make a game without an api, and the next api is dx12...

I'll make it extremely simple. GPU A beats GPU B in a benchmark that doesn't measure GPU performance. Those results have absolutely nothing to do with actual gaming performance.

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I never said you were a fanboy, just that you had no cedibility, because you said a 290X can match a Titan X in games, and it doesn't. That 3Dmark test only shows draw call performance, not gaming performance, on pcper they even overclock a 960 to almost the same performance as the 980, and everyone knows that you can't possibly overclock a 960 high enough to match a 980, they even specify themselves that this benchmark should not be used to compare GPUs, they are testing the APIs more than anything.

It also appears the 290x in this test was on Directx12 and the Titan was on Directx11

I saw this article and posted it on another forum and got yelled at lol

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I'll make it extremely simple. GPU A beats GPU B in a benchmark that doesn't measure GPU performance. Those results have absolutely nothing to do with actual gaming performance.

In games like AC Unity and benchmarks like star swarm, the amount of draw calls that are processed is through the roof! Resulting in poor performance because of the api not being able to reasonably process all of the information. With dx12 in current benchmarks, you see massive improvements in performance, as well as the logical gtx 980 still reigns king over the r9 290x, but this time with a smaller gap.

 

I'm just saying that if similar gpu's are seen by dx12 as having similar processing power, it would be an obvious choice to buy the $300 card over the $600 one if they perform the same in next generation games.

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In games like AC Unity and benchmarks like star swarm, the amount of draw calls that are processed is through the roof! Resulting in poor performance because of the api not being able to reasonably process all of the information. With dx12 in current benchmarks, you see massive improvements in performance, as well as the logical gtx 980 still reigns king over the r9 290x, but this time with a smaller gap.

 

I'm just saying that if similar gpu's are seen by dx12 as having similar processing power, it would be an obvious choice to buy the $300 card over the $600 one if they perform the same in next generation games.

[joke]You're exactly right, and the R9 290X is only like 5% better than the R9 285 (a HD 7970 refresh) with a very mild overclock.

So why buy a graphics card for $300 when I can buy one for $190 that works just as well?[/joke]

Your 'logic' is completely unfounded.

This API test doesn't measure the GPUs processing power.

It measures how quickly the GPU and CPU can interact via draw call across the API.

My guess as to why the overclock on the R9 285 and GTX 960 caused them to match the performance of much better GPUs is that by raising the memory clocks the bandwidth was increased to the point where it rivaled the bandwidth of the higher end card.

Bandwidth however does not directly equate to raw GPU performance.

Think of it like this:

You can staff more people to take orders so that the oven is being used to capacity constantly,so that there aren't periods when it's not being used entirely, but once you reach capacity for the oven it won't matter how many orders you have waiting. 

DX12, Vulkan, and Mantle will introduce new ways for the API to make the most of the GPU and CPU, but that doesn't mean it'll sprinkle magic pixie dust and make a card like the R9 290X better than the GTX Titan.

The CPU can make as many draw calls as it wants with the new API, however at a certain point the GPU won't be bottlenecked by the CPUs ability to send draw calls but rather by its (the GPU's) own ability to produce the objects being called for.

That's the reason for why every 3d object in that benchmark was as simple as possible, to prevent the GPU from being the bottleneck; it's the same as when benchmarkers turn every setting in a game to low, set the resolution to 640x480, and bench a game to see which CPU performs best. 

They try to make everything ideal to prevent the GPU from being the bottleneck, to see how well the CPU performs.

And that was the goal of the DX12 API benchmark by 3DMark, to test how much better the CPU performance could be in DX12 vs DX11 vs Mantle.

That's also why PCWorld got 13 million draw calls with the 4770K and 290X and PCPER got 20 million draw calls with the 5960X. 

 

If you played a game that had a large number of 3d models,no models more complex than a 6 sided polygon,had only one texture that was reused over and over again, had no shaders , no lighting effects, no AA, no AO, no AF, and you played it at 640x480 then you'd see this huge a difference in performance between DX11 and DX12.

Otherwise the difference in performance, assuming DX11 is 100%, will be less like 1700% and more like 20-40% at best.

The API is the person who takes your order.The GPU is the oven.The draw call is the order.
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