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Dilemma on AIO purchase

Ok, so I'm in the market for an AIO CPU cooler, and unsure what to get.

 

I want to push my 4790k to 4.8 or 4.9 24/7, and will probably be sending it to silicon lottery soon to get delidded as well, so I can accomplish this easier. 

 

 

I had an H220 previously, but the default mounting hardware wouldn't fit properly on my board, (Called up swiftech, and they said my motherboard was known for having smaller holes than it was supposed to, and that they had had multiple calls of people with H220's not being able to install them on z97 M powers)

I ordered a replacement kit for the H220 that was different than the stock mounting hardware, and one of the screws broke & I got tired of having 3 out of 4 screws holding it down, it worried me that over time it may damage something, or cause excess pressure in one corner.

 

So now I'm looking for something else, I know most high end air coolers are only a few degrees worse & quieter than most AIO's, but I've already been down that road. ( I had a Cryorig R1 Ultimate with 3 fans on it )

The thing is about high end air for me is, I have 2 open air 970's, and while heavily OC'ing or long-term gaming, a lot of hot air builds up inbetween the air tower & the GPU's, because it gets kinda trapped in there. With an AIO I didn't have that issue, as the air was able to freely get out of the case.

 

So my dilemma is, I WILL NOT be using the fans that come with any AIO, as I don't want to mess up my theme, but I can't figure out which AIO would be best for me because reviews don't only test the radiator with the same fans for all testing. They always use the fans that come with the AIO, which IMO kind of screws up the way I want to figure out which is best.

 

I'd like to get a 240mm rad as I'll be using painted SP120's, so a 280 is out of the question, as I'd have to get AF140's and paint the rings yellow to maintain my color scheme & build theme.

 

 

 

I'd also like to get one that has mounting hardware similar to the H100i / H105 / h100i GTX, because of that issue previously mentioned with my motherboard.

 

My current thinkings are the H100i GTX or H105, as they seem to perform very well against other solutions, but I'm open to suggestion.

 

 

I'm thinking the H105 may be my best option, as it's 38mm thick, and once I put my push/pull fans on it, it'd probably outperform other thinner solutions. but I may be wrong.

 

@VSG @Jumper118 any advice?

 

 

 

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The reason I don't want to get a 280mm radiator / AIO is because I want to maintain my theme, and an AIO opens up the CPU socket area more for "viewing" so to speak:

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I have heard great things about the Kraken x41 if you want a small AIO.

 

Maybe the H105 or H220X?

 

 

I don't really like the aesthetics of the H220x, the hanging down pump & res is ugly as fk IMO.

I like the idea of the H105, since I could color the ring yellow to match my theme if I wanted to, or leave it the grey color because it'd still match.

 

I think the fact that it's 38mm thick would help a lot as well, but I'm not sure.

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I tested my 4790k in benchtests @ 4.0/4.4/4.8Ghz and found that you gain 0 fps in gaming scenarios so I left it at 4.4Ghz and left it there. Its not really worth pushing a hard OC on a CPU thats not a bottleneck in your system. (test was performed with two 290X's)

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i'd go the H105 route if not using the corsair link package. the thicker radiator

will allow some headroom. but i have found the H105 pump to be noisey on

the mobo fan header (not fully 12v) and pretty much quieter on a direct PSU

link.

 

i do not care for the new GTX hose placement off the pump. like TTL asked

that the H110i GT pump on the H100i GTX would be preferable. less wire

management issues.

 

i'd be nice if one of these companies would just produce a decent pump (12v)

and not equipped with all this garbage management issues.

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I tested my 4790k in benchtests @ 4.0/4.4/4.8Ghz and found that you gain 0 fps in gaming scenarios so I left it at 4.4Ghz and left it there. Its not really worth pushing a hard OC on a CPU thats not a bottleneck in your system. (test was performed with two 290X's)

 

 

It's not so much for gaming as it is for benching & having lower temps all around.

 

 

 

@airdeano that's what I was thinking, the thickness + having push/pull on it would probably help it outperform thinner rads with push/pull on them still.

 

But yeah I heard the pump was a bit noisy, @MegaDave91 has one (my buddy :D) and mentioned it's pretty noticeable.

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I can get up to 4.8 on my H105. Worth considering

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@airdeano that's what I was thinking, the thickness + having push/pull on it would probably help it outperform thinner rads with push/pull on them still.

 

it is, but i'm currently running single hyperborea and still have sub 70° (haswell 1.35v)

100% loaded temps. p/p is novel, but not 100% necessary.

can work with the PWM SP120 as well, just a louder 

 

fan curve is 40% under 55° and 100% at 70°. 

 

i have totally given up on the swifty AIO program..

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it is, but i'm currently running single hyperborea and still have sub 70° (haswell 1.35v)

100% loaded temps. p/p is novel, but not 100% necessary.

can work with the PWM SP120 as well, just a louder 

 

fan curve is 40% under 55° and 100% at 70°. 

 

i have totally given up on the swifty AIO program..

 

 

I just have a fan controller for all my fans, channel 1 is for the CPU, channel 2 is for case fans, channel 3 is for my LED strips.

 

But yea, I'll probably just do that.

I'm most likely going to send my CPU to silicon lottery for delid too, since $50 isn't actually that bad.  (Considering coolbatory is $25 by itself I believe)

Even if I only drop 5 degrees, I'm OK with that.

 

(the site says anywhere from 10-15, but I'd only expect 5-10 realistically)

 

 

 

H105 sounds right for you.

 

I suppose you also modded your G1's LEDS?

 

I'm waiting on a guy on OCN to make me PCB's for it, with yellow LEDs, he got sick recently and has put his project on hold so I'm just waiting.

 

For now I just have them turned off, so they just become grey-ish in color, and match my build still.

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I see.

 

Here's a matching wallpaper for your build as well lol.

 

 

b-b-b-but but..

 

I have a cute graves poro...

 

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(Considering coolbatory is $25 by itself I believe)

 

CL is $11 on amazon or $14 on Frozen/PPCs. not doubting SL abilities, but DIY man..

it isn't difficult using the vise method. but they'd prolly bench it before/after with a report..

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CL is $11 on amazon or $14 on Frozen/PPCs. not doubting SL abilities, but DIY man..

it isn't difficult using the vise method. but they'd prolly bench it before/after with a report..

 

 

I don't have a vice unfortunately. :/

 

I figured buying a vice + piece of wood + CL would be about the same price as just sending it to SL and having him do it "professionally"

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$12 from harbor freight.. tsk, tsk.. you don't wanna DIY, thats cool..

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but its $50 plus shipping and hopefully it doesn't get "lost-in-the-mail".

you don't have to sell me on it, but i'd buy it pre-done from them as opposed to

sending in your purchased chip and hopefully the shipping gods like you.

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but its $50 plus shipping and hopefully it doesn't get "lost-in-the-mail".

you don't have to sell me on it, but i'd buy it pre-done from them as opposed to

sending in your purchased chip and hopefully the shipping gods like you.

 

 

I think the shipping is free, I'll ask @Gofspar when he gets on later.

Also I can always just insure it with whoever I ship it with, should be aight.

 

 

 I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but I'm not entirely confident in my abilities not to screw it up.  @Gofspar mentioned he had some kind of machine that pulls the IHS off really easily or something along the lines of that.

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$12 from harbor freight.. tsk, tsk.. you don't wanna DIY, thats cool..

I don't trust myself using a razor blade on my VERY high binned chip.

 

also shipping was free

PEWDIEPIE DONT CROSS THAT BRIDGE

 

 

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you can delid with dental floss. that is the safest method although it takes a while. 

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you can delid with dental floss. that is the safest method although it takes a while. 

 

r u srs lol

 

 

gofspar told me some crap about rubber gloves or some crap..

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r u srs lol

 

 

gofspar told me some crap about rubber gloves or some crap..

i am not joking

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i am not joking

 

gimme a video pls if there is any lol

 

also i was thinking of making a group PM with me + u + prokon and other ppl that frequency the bench threads, thoughts?

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gimme a video pls if there is any lol

 

also i was thinking of making a group PM with me + u + prokon and other ppl that frequency the bench threads, thoughts?

i can't find a video, but people have mentioned it multiple times on the ocn delid thread and i've seen someone saying they did it on ocuk.

pic from ocuk pentium E5300

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it would be best if we have an overclocking/benching section. LTT has a HWbot team doesn't it? 

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Harrynowl's 775/771 OC and mod guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/232325-lga775-core2duo-core2quad-overclocking-guide/ http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/365998-mod-lga771-to-lga775-cpu-modification-tutorial/

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i can't find a video, but people have mentioned it multiple times on the ocn delid thread and i've seen someone saying they did it on ocuk.

 

it would be best if we have an overclocking/benching section. LTT has a HWbot team doesn't it? 

 

I'm unsure, but maybe we shud make one?

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I'm unsure, but maybe we shud make one?

yep, there is one  http://hwbot.org/team/linustechtipsforums/#Members

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Asrock OC Formula 7970XTX Quadfire

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Super Flower Power Leadex 2000W Psu's X2

Harrynowl's 775/771 OC and mod guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/232325-lga775-core2duo-core2quad-overclocking-guide/ http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/365998-mod-lga771-to-lga775-cpu-modification-tutorial/

ProKoN haswell/DC OC guide: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/41234-intel-haswell-4670k-4770k-overclocking-guide/

 

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I'm not so sure the H105 is right for you, Darren (@Lays). If harddrive noise bothers you then I doubt you'll like the noise it produces.  

 

Personally, I don't mind the pump noise as I don't find it loud. It's a constant (difficult to explain) and somewhat soothing. 

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