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Bottleneck? FPS drops

Aiphaton

Hey there!

I recently upgraded my PC (FX 8320, Asus A960D+, 16GB DDR3 RAM) from a Nvidia GeForce GT 630 to an AMD Sapphire toxic R9 280x.

Because of this MASSIVE improvements I expected a HUGE improvement on AAA titles on my 1080p Monitor, BUT it didn't improve a lot...
In fact I have to fight FPS drops in not very demanding games such as Dirt 3 or Dirt showdown.

At the moment I am playing Dying Light a lot, I tried it on the max settings, which didn't worl out very well, I had 40FPS sometomes but it dropped very often very low on like 15 FPS or even lower and stayed there for a few moments until it started climbing up again slowly...

Then I put the game on the Settings recommended by the game (Which were the middle settings and even low on some aspects). The outcome was the same as with the max settings FPS from 40 to 15.

My PC had no external cooling (No extra Fans only the GPU and the CPU coolers which I thought was the problem so until my Fans will arrive I left the side panel open. Still the same results.

Do you think it's because of some failure of the GPU or a bottleneck or is it still the heat? (GPU's running during AAA games on 65°C) which is pretty normal in my opinion.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

Cheers, Aiphaton

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Did you install the drivers? Even if you did, try updating to the latest version.

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Welcome to the forums!

 

Be sure to have the latest drivers. Also, it may be a bottleneck, yes.

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Dying Light is so poorly optimized as it is. So don't worry about the poor FPS... It stutters even on GTX 980s... They just need to fix the game.. Make sure that your view distance is low.. That is the major contributor to low FPS 

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Yes, all of the drivers are up to date.

@megaant4 Maybe it's because of the game but other AAA's like Lords of Fallen have the same FPS Problem.

Could it be the GPU? That the hardware is damaged?

@dadasmithywinkle What do you think could be the bottleneck? Probably the Mainboard, or something else?

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Make sure all the nvidia drivers for the GT 630 have been purged. Sometimes things get left behind and cause issues. PhysX drivers are fine, some games need them.

 

CCleaner is good to use to get rid of pesky issues.

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@ApolloX75 Just checked. Nothing left from the GT 630. I installed the PhysX driver just to make sure, but as fare as I know it doesn't get supported.

I also deinstalled the Catalyst driver and reinstalled it.

There's still one thing: I deinstalled all of the Nvidea drivers after I already built in the 280x could that be a reason for all the drops?

In that case I would have to set up Windows new, would I?

Sad to admit but I don't know very much stuff about PCs....

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Dying Light is so poorly optimized as it is. So don't worry about the poor FPS... It stutters even on GTX 980s... They just need to fix the game.. Make sure that your view distance is low.. That is the major contributor to low FPS 

They fixed all of that. Game runs flawlessly for me now.

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There's still one thing: I deinstalled all of the Nvidea drivers after I already built in the 280x could that be a reason for all the drops?

In that case I would have to set up Windows new, would I?

Sad to admit but I don't know very much stuff about PCs....

I doubt it really. If you got it all then I think you should be good. How are your temps? No thermal throttling on either the CPU or 280?

 

*Edit: Okay, I can't find your motherboard and going off info I can find, it's not an Asus. Are you sure it's not the Biostar A960D? That's a 760 series chipset, they have always been a royal pain in the ass and very outdated even in the AMD world.

Take a look at the Biostar support database and make sure your BIOS is updated. If I were you I would invest in a much better motherboard. The Asus M5A97 or M5A99 are excellent examples.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if that board is the root of your problems.

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@ApolloX75 The Temperatur of the 280 never goes higher than 60°C yesterday while playling Dying Light the max temperature was at 52°C. But I don't think the GPU is throttling it at those low temps.

You hear the FPS-rates. The 280 vents turn down to almost zero and the FPS drop. When the vents start rotating again the FPS rise above a level of 80. So I don't know why the GPU does this.

 

Yes the board is from Biostar, sorry for my mistake.

I'll look it up, thank you.

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I have a stinky feeling your mobo is the culprit

 

the board may support the FX 8 core in BIOS

 

but the board VRMs are not build to support the high wattage CPUs

 

so once they overheat

 

the VRMs will throttle down and limit your CPU power and speed too

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I think I found the problem.

it's not a GPU problem but the CPU is running full. So I think a new motherboard should do.

I'll let you guys know when it arrives.

Thanks for all of your support.

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