Spin around

[KirbyTech]

I am wondering how I could get smooth video starting at the feet of a person and slowly spinning around them while moving upwards? Any free solutions/ under $150 one?

[Bsmith]

You can try this with a stabalizer only by walking around your subject/person and slowy rise the camera form ground level.

Altough this will be a very tricky shot since the combined movements require some sort of gyroscope, which allows you to start on the ground/ at the feet and slowely turn and rise. With other things like cage's and/or shoulder mounts the size of the construction limits you in your movement.

But since gyroscope's are relatively hard to get or quite expensive you might wanna try to shoot with by hand with a IS lens smoothening the image.

Short run down of possibilities(based on cost):

1. Steady cam gear(expensibe as hell, but butter smooth)

2. Gyroscopic monopod/"selfiestick" (needs practice)

3. Shoulder mount/ mount cage (limits movement, spreads weight, heavier, smoothness/stability depends on person working with it)

4. Handshot with IS lens(requires steady hand, patience, concentration)

Note:

I worked out these ways of working where you do everything within a single shot and/or motion.

[KirbyTech]

You can try this with a stabalizer only by walking around your subject/person and slowy rise the camera form ground level.

Altough this will be a very tricky shot since the combined movements require some sort of gyroscope, which allows you to start on the ground/ at the feet and slowely turn and rise. With other things like cage's and/or shoulder mounts the size of the construction limits you in your movement.

But since gyroscope's are relatively hard to get or quite expensive you might wanna try to shoot with by hand with a IS lens smoothening the image.

Short run down of possibilities(based on cost):

1. Steady cam gear(expensibe as hell, but butter smooth)

2. Gyroscopic monopod/"selfiestick" (needs practice)

3. Shoulder mount/ mount cage (limits movement, spreads weight, heavier, smoothness/stability depends on person working with it)

4. Handshot with IS lens(requires steady hand, patience, concentration)

Note:

I worked out these ways of working where you do everything within a single shot and/or motion.

Do you think renting a DJI Ronin would be a good idea then use it in the inverted mode.

[Dredgy]

Hand shot could be quite hard. I do this on products (not the size of people) every now and then, so it might be applied. The camera stays fixed on the X axis and on a vertical slider on the Y axis. The camera is set to a high frame rate so it can be slowed in post.

The subject is on a turntable in front of a greenscreen, as the person turns, the camera is risen/lowered (usually lowered cause it can be done smoother, and then played in reverse, but this won't work unless the person does their facial expressions backwards)

As it is shot on a green screen, it may not suit your purpose if you need to capture the surrounding area.

[KirbyTech]

Hand shot could be quite hard. I do this on products (not the size of people) every now and then, so it might be applied. The camera stays fixed on the X axis and on a vertical slider on the Y axis. The camera is set to a high frame rate so it can be slowed in post.

The subject is on a turntable in front of a greenscreen, as the person turns, the camera is risen/lowered (usually lowered cause it can be done smoother, and then played in reverse, but this won't work unless the person does their facial expressions backwards)

As it is shot on a green screen, it may not suit your purpose if you need to capture the surrounding area.

I will see if I can get the look we want by using images stitched together and creating a false ground. Is there any way better to do it with a bigger budget. I talked to the client this morning and he says that it is important to him to have this one shot in the final video and he is willing to pay. I am told to figure out the cost then let him know. From past experiences with him and the total project budget I would guess $1000-2500 CAD

[Dredgy]

@KirbyTech I'll ask one of my camera guys in the morning.

The only way I can think of achieving it would be putting the camera on wheels - if you can find a skate dolly big enough, that'll make circling the subject very easy, but then you'll have to put a monopod or something on it to scale the height. Or gyroscope of course.

I prefer to have the subject move rather than the camera, because less room for error, and I'm not a naturally talented camera operator, but I'm not sure it's the best solution. It's a tricky shot to get on a budget.

[KirbyTech]

@KirbyTech I'll ask one of my camera guys in the morning.

The only way I can think of achieving it would be putting the camera on wheels - if you can find a skate dolly big enough, that'll make circling the subject very easy, but then you'll have to put a monopod or something on it to scale the height. Or gyroscope of course.

I prefer to have the subject move rather than the camera, because less room for error, and I'm not a naturally talented camera operator, but I'm not sure it's the best solution. It's a tricky shot to get on a budget.

I don't mind doing the shot 20 times to get it right and I'm not talented either. I hope increasing the budget will help.

[Dredgy]

I don't mind doing the shot 20 times to get it right and I'm not talented either. I hope increasing the budget will help.

Well maybe get a tall box or a chest of drawers or something else tall and practice the shot. See how it looks handheld, find what the issues with it are and then work from there. If it's just a bit shaky, get a handheld rig, but if you aren't able to move in a circle, then a skate dolly might be the way to go etc.

[KirbyTech]

Well maybe get a tall box or a chest of drawers or something else tall and practice the shot. See how it looks handheld, find what the issues with it are and then work from there. If it's just a bit shaky, get a handheld rig, but if you aren't able to move in a circle, then a skate dolly might be the way to go etc.

Do you think it would be worth it to rent a DJI Ronin for a day to do the shot? 

[Bsmith]

Do you think it would be worth it to rent a DJI Ronin for a day to do the shot? 

 

it seems like a proper cage/mount to me, altough you need to keep in mind it doesnt really stabalize, it increases the weight and lies the center of it in the middle, making it easier to handle.

 

when you won't be able to have your subject on something like drawers, chairs, stairs orsomething alike, you need to keep in mind that it might be a little difficult to raise the construction above a certain point, due to weight.

[KirbyTech]

it seems like a proper cage/mount to me, altough you need to keep in mind it doesnt really stabalize, it increases the weight and lies the center of it in the middle, making it easier to handle.

 

when you won't be able to have your subject on something like drawers, chairs, stairs orsomething alike, you need to keep in mind that it might be a little difficult to raise the construction above a certain point, due to weight.

It is actually a 3 axis stabilizer and does amazing (I have used it in the past). 

[Bsmith]

It is actually a 3 axis stabilizer and does amazing (I have used it in the past). 

 

guess i have to do my homework better then :unsure:

if you got personaly experience with it you might know if its suitable for something like this or not.

[KirbyTech]

guess i have to do my homework better then :unsure:

if you got personaly experience with it you might know if its suitable for something like this or not.

I know it is good for walking shot and when your on a boat but this is a different kind of shot.

[Blade of Grass]

Maybe try renting a crane and dolly? It would probably run you a few hundred bucks, but it should work pretty well.

[Bsmith]

I know it is good for walking shot and when your on a boat but this is a different kind of shot.

Hmm yeah this is something totally diffrent, got no experience with it myself so i dont hae any idea on how it feels/moves when used.

An other idea which litterly just popped inside my head, a drone.

Could you be able to use one for such shot?

Its stable, has the ability to move around the object as needed, should be able to rent those(?)

If ik not mistaken there are also drone's on the market which allow you to use your own camera, bo idea about price.

Just a sudden idea, might still work though.