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it's an intel motherboard so you cannot put on an AMD CPU on that, if you do want an AMD you need to get a corresponding am3+ mtherboard on that same calliber of the ASUS one you chose :/

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No, it is a bad cpu in general and doesn't even fit in that mobo. Either get a lower i5 and a h81/b85/h97 board or a 4690k and a z97 board.

ive heard good things about and its £50 cheaper and ive heard it's as good as a i7

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ive heard good things about and its £50 cheaper and ive heard it's as good as a i7

Not even close, for gaming it is close to an i3, or occasionally a lower i5.

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Not even close, for gaming it is close to an i3, or occasionally a lower i5.

so you think i should go with the i5 4690k?

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Yes, it is a great cpu, which will probably last for like 5 years for most tasks.

inluding Photoshop, because i do alot of GTX 

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inluding Photoshop, because i do alot of GTX 

for that, the i5 would be fine, though a xeon would be a little better. You could also get an i7 4790k, which would be better than a xeon e3 or i5 at all tasks.

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for that, the i5 would be fine, though a xeon would be a little better. You could also get an i7 4790k, which would be better than a xeon e3 or i5 at all tasks.

but wouldnt that cost alot?

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I assume your budget is around £1K going off your opening post ?
 

 
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£260.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£88.76 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£95.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.60 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card  (£275.94 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£61.62 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1009.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I assume your budget is around £1K going off your opening post ?
 

 
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£260.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£88.76 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£95.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.60 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card  (£275.94 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£61.62 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1009.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-01 12:28 GMT+0000

 

wouldnt an i7 be overkill? also i white and black build would be awesome

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  For gaming, you won't see much benefit from getting an i7, if at all. However, I completely agree with what everything they've said so far. Photoshop is definitely an application that can benefit from hyperthreading and the general performance increase an i7 or Xeon would provide.

 

  Differences between the Xeon and i7 include: The Xeon is locked, while the i7 can be overclocked, and the Xeon does not have integrated graphics, while the i7 does (which shouldn't really matter if you have a dedicated GPU). The Xeon should be very good for the value, but the i7 4790k should generally outperform it, especially when overclocked. If you do go with the Xeon, I'd recommend a H97 motherboard. H97s tend not to support SLI, and barely support Crossfire, so that's a notable difference.
 

what do you think of this black and white build? http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/n6jJ23

I think the build is pretty good. I would personally make a few adjustments though:

  • Your storage is extremely limited. Having only 240GB is definitely not enough, especially with what you're going to be needing the computer for. With that in mind, I'd recommend getting a 120-ish GB SSD for the Operating System and essential programs, along with a 1-2TB HDD. Whatever you do, just make sure you have enough storage. It's also a plus if you have some way to backup any important files (RAID 1, External HD, etc).
  • The GTX 970 is a pretty good card, and is still very viable. I've seen it run (somewhat) modded Skyrim without much problem. I'm sure you've heard of the VRAM issues, though. With that in mind, I'd personally prefer an R9 290x from AMD. However, it would generate more heat and use more power. But you'll definitely be alright with a GTX 970 (although with that chipset, for a little extra, you could get the Strix card, which I've heard good things about). Nvidia cards in general have Cuda Acceleration, that can help performance on applications that utilize it (I believe Photoshop is one of them).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£260.34 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.50 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£88.76 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£95.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.60 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card  (£275.94 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£61.62 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1009.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-01 12:28 GMT+0000

  I like this build a little better than yours (sorry!). The difference being better storage (and a different case, but that's generally personal preference). I'll throw in a Xeon build for consideration.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£205.06 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.74 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£103.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£93.90 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£58.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (£283.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£88.07 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.79 @ Aria PC)
Total: £973.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-02 19:24 GMT+0000

 

  I threw in 250GB of SSD space, and 2TB of HDD (and snuck in a Strix card) space with the money saved on the CPU and Motherboard. Again, the case is largely personal preference, so I threw in one I liked. Also, I personally wouldn't sacrifice too much performance to get a good color scheme. I can definitely understand your wanting the build to look good, though. Hope this post makes sense; I've really been scrambling around today!

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  For gaming, you won't see much benefit from getting an i7, if at all. However, I completely agree with what everything they've said so far. Photoshop is definitely an application that can benefit from hyperthreading and the general performance increase an i7 or Xeon would provide.

 

  Differences between the Xeon and i7 include: The Xeon is locked, while the i7 can be overclocked, and the Xeon does not have integrated graphics, while the i7 does (which shouldn't really matter if you have a dedicated GPU). The Xeon should be very good for the value, but the i7 4790k should generally outperform it, especially when overclocked. If you do go with the Xeon, I'd recommend a H97 motherboard. H97s tend not to support SLI, and barely support Crossfire, so that's a notable difference.

 

I think the build is pretty good. I would personally make a few adjustments though:

  • Your storage is extremely limited. Having only 240GB is definitely not enough, especially with what you're going to be needing the computer for. With that in mind, I'd recommend getting a 120-ish GB SSD for the Operating System and essential programs, along with a 1-2TB HDD. Whatever you do, just make sure you have enough storage. It's also a plus if you have some way to backup any important files (RAID 1, External HD, etc).
  • The GTX 970 is a pretty good card, and is still very viable. I've seen it run (somewhat) modded Skyrim without much problem. I'm sure you've heard of the VRAM issues, though. With that in mind, I'd personally prefer an R9 290x from AMD. However, it would generate more heat and use more power. But you'll definitely be alright with a GTX 970 (although with that chipset, for a little extra, you could get the Strix card, which I've heard good things about). Nvidia cards in general have Cuda Acceleration, that can help performance on applications that utilize it (I believe Photoshop is one of them).

  I like this build a little better than yours (sorry!). The difference being better storage (and a different case, but that's generally personal preference). I'll throw in a Xeon build for consideration.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£205.06 @ Scan.co.uk)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.50 @ Amazon UK)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.74 @ Aria PC)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£103.98 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£93.90 @ Scan.co.uk)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£58.80 @ Aria PC)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (£283.98 @ Amazon UK)

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£88.07 @ Aria PC)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.79 @ Aria PC)

Total: £973.82

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-02 19:24 GMT+0000

 

  I threw in 250GB of SSD space, and 2TB of HDD (and snuck in a Strix card) space with the money saved on the CPU and Motherboard. Again, the case is largely personal preference, so I threw in one I liked. Also, I personally wouldn't sacrifice too much performance to get a good color scheme. I can definitely understand your wanting the build to look good, though. Hope this post makes sense; I've really been scrambling around today!

everyone keeps saying different things and im getting confused :( and dont know what to do or who to believe 

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everyone keeps saying different things and im getting confused :( and dont know what to do or who to believe 

What are you getting confused about ?
 
Here is a slight edit of your last spec. Added a 1TB HDD for extra storage.
 
Changed the Ram to the Kingston Fury White Series. The Corsair is Black/Silver so doesn't match as good.
 
The XFX psu is better than the EVGA NEX.
 
Changed the SSD to the newer MX100 model. The MX200 is the latest version, but that is an extra £10.
 
 
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£260.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£88.76 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£79.85 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card  (£275.94 @ Aria PC) 
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case  (£89.30 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£71.10 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1028.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-02 20:03 GMT+0000
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What are you getting confused about ?
 
Here is a slight edit of your last spec. Added a 1TB HDD for extra storage.
 
Changed the Ram to the Kingston Fury White Series. The Corsair is Black/Silver so doesn't match as good.
 
The XFX psu is better than the EVGA NEX.
 
Changed the SSD to the newer MX100 model. The MX200 is the latest version, but that is an extra £10.
 
 
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£260.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£88.76 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£79.85 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card  (£275.94 @ Aria PC) 
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case  (£89.30 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£71.10 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1028.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-02 20:03 GMT+0000

 

you went on about xeons and got a little confused

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you went on about xeons and got a little confused

Ah that was Exp who mentioned the Xeon.

 

The Xeon is a good option if Overclocking doesn't appeal to you. It has a slower clock speed of 3.4GHz compared to the i7 4790K clock speed of 4GHz. You can get a slight overclock on it, although nothing like you can with the i7 4790K as that is fully unlocked.

 

It also doesn't have any built in graphics, whereas the i7 4790K does. This isn't a huge deal, but it can be helpful to have the built in graphics just in case your dedicated graphics card becomes faulty. 

 

You can still use the Xeon in a Z97 board if you want SLI support. 

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Not even close, for gaming it is close to an i3, or occasionally a lower i5.

mate i am using it since 3 yrs but it dosent crash even if i render 4k videos its support good as intel 

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mate i am using it since 3 yrs but it dosent crash even if i render 4k videos its support good as intel 

That's the problem, it was an ok CPU three years ago, but it is well below an intel equivalent now, especially for gaming.

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That's the problem, it was an ok CPU three years ago, but it is well below an intel equivalent now, especially for gaming.

agreed but if the budget is over killing then what should happen he compromises performance 

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That's the problem, it was an ok CPU three years ago, but it is well below an intel equivalent now, especially for gaming.

4970k is good option also

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