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If you check out reviews, both AnandTech and TFTCentral does very in depth monitor review of them, you can see how crap they are. This excludes their warranty service which is filled of conditions to not cover you, and you have to pay shipping to ship the monitor to them. Canada/U.S to South Korea is not cheap, especially a monitor.

Here are some:

qnix_qx320qhd

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx320qhd.htm

Not even close even back light, stuck at 100% brightness, no control on that. Near 0 input lag, and multiple inputs, BUT 12ms AVERAGE response time measured, this is the slowest by considerable amount from other monitors they reviewed.

Power light is overly bright and large. Decent color reproduction out of the box, but contrast is poor. Very poor interpolation.

QNIX QX2710

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm

PWM driven back light at only 156Hz, which means you can have a headache (the product page says "flicker free". I don't think they know what I mean, or it's stolen marketing material, which is usually the case), decent colors reproduction, 6.6ms response time, which is nice, but input lag is on the high side with 15.40ms. It is as slow as other monitors not targetted for gaming, but rather professional work, which contains fancy things like color processors. This monitor is barebone sadly, but multiple inputs.

Drops a lot of frames when overclocked.

Achieva Shimian 27" IPS Zero-G

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/achieva_27_ips-zero-g.htm

Glossy screen, brightness is fake, it plays with the colors, and not actually adjust the back light. Back light stuck at 100%. Good colors, poor contrast, heavy back light bleeding, good response time at ~7ms, but input lag is once again in the territory of fancy monitors, reaching 22.75ms.

Of course, as manufacture rejects are used, your results may vary. Keep in mind that rejection can be due to:

-> Back light bleeding.

-> Faulty pixels (1 or more stuck on black or a color, or no LCD liquid inside).

-> Improper grid forming at a location or area, leading a star light effect on black as you move your head, or blurry.

-> Durability (Physical durability, and/or life span).

-> Doesn't follow expected specifications.

However, they are cheap. Many people don't care about the downside, many do get a great monitor with no issue THEY see (then again many of them comes from far worst monitors, just something to keep in mind).

But as dizmo mentioned, if you wait and look for specials, you can find some nice branded monitors for very close to the same price (of course the better brands like Dell or ASUS (compared to AOC, for example) costs more), and you know what you'll get for sure, you know that you'll get a A+ panel, the build quality is there, the monitor is full feature. You have a full warranty, especially ASUS and more so Dell (Dell allows you to keep the monitor while they ship you the replacement, the replacement monitor in teh box, has a pre-paid shipping label for you to swamp the monitor and ship back the monitor to Dell. Dell pays shipping both direction). great dead/stuck/bright pixel policy, long 3 year warranty, and well the whole package for the monitor.

It is all good if you get those ebay Korean monitor, I have to admit they do seam to take some effort in picking the best panel before selling, and not blindly putting them in their monitors, but consider what you are getting.

Keep in mind that you have shipping cost as well. While some brands like Dell, has free shipping (although Dell, even on good specials is more expensive ~500$ for 2560x1440 monitors)

Could someone tell me if the Korean monitors, Yamakasi, Crossover, Shimachi, are any good?

 

Please be more in depth than the brand fanboys were in other threads. I read them. And before anyone blurts out "korean monitors are shit," remember that two top brands Samsung and LG, come from korea. In fact, Lg makes screens for iphones and ipads, including the retina displays. And both make screens for several other companies.

 

Also, do any of them have calibration controls?

 

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They are pretty good from what I know. The "problem" is that you can't always be sure about what kind of customer support you'll get if anything goes wrong. If you're on a budget, they are often a very good option. Just be aware there is a little risk involved.

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Could someone tell me if the Korean monitors, Yamakasi, Crossover, Shimachi, are any good?

The Yamakasi Catleap is pretty much the best Korean 1440p. And it can compete with other 60Hz IPS 1440p monitors from reputable brands.

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The fact that they're Korean isn't the problem. The fact that the companies that make the "Korean monitors" are using B grade (or sometimes A-) panels which have been rejected by the major manufacturers for use in their products.
Which, to me, means a sub par product.

 

That said, they're good if you're on a budget. They just lack some controls and sometimes suffer from worse input lag.

The stands are also usually worse, and sometimes, even if present, the VESA mounts don't work.

 

Honestly a lot of the time if you look around for sales and such a higher quality OEM product is usually only a little more, and they tend to feature a much better warranty.

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The fact that they're Korean isn't the problem. The fact that the companies that make the "Korean monitors" are using B grade (or sometimes A-) panels which have been rejected by the major manufacturers for use in their products.

Which, to me, means a sub par product.

 

That said, they're good if you're on a budget. They just lack some controls and sometimes suffer from worse input lag.

The stands are also usually worse, and sometimes, even if present, the VESA mounts don't work.

 

Honestly a lot of the time if you look around for sales and such a higher quality OEM product is usually only a little more, and they tend to feature a much better warranty.

 

That's the main reason they're cheaper. If they were using A+ panels that were identical to the ones that major manufacturers were using, then why would anyone with logic pay the extra money to get the ones from the known brand names? 

 

Also the single-input Korean monitors will have less input lag then the multi-input ones on from major manufacturers that have to use different controller boards.

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That's the main reason they're cheaper. If they were using A+ panels that were identical to the ones that major manufacturers were using, then why would anyone with logic pay the extra money to get the ones from the known brand names? 

 

Also the single-input Korean monitors will have less input lag then the multi-input ones on from major manufacturers that have to use different controller boards.

Obviously.

The large manufacturers would likely have better warranties and stands.

Also, just because a monitor has the same panel, does not at all mean that it will have the same performance or characteristics.

Look at the 29" 21:9 panels. There are huge differences in both lag, and other settings between Asus, Philips and LG.

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Obviously.

The large manufacturers would likely have better warranties and stands.

Also, just because a monitor has the same panel, does not at all mean that it will have the same performance or characteristics.

Look at the 29" 21:9 panels. There are huge differences in both lag, and other settings between Asus, Philips and LG.

Obviously.

I never said that warranty, stands, or overall panel use is better between Korean monitors and brand name monitors. The bang-for-the-buck factor is better with Korean monitors, but it's not magic, you still pay for what you get.

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I hate Samsung & LG products for reasons

not because those were from "korean" it's because they use bad parts in their lcd (when they start making LCD)

 

it just happen to be in spotlight because marketing

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Obviously.

I never said that warranty, stands, or overall panel use is better between Korean monitors and brand name monitors. The bang-for-the-buck factor is better with Korean monitors, but it's not magic, you still pay for what you get.

Which is what I said.

I don't understand the point of your post at all.

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Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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Which is what I said.

I don't understand the point of your post at all.

Just because they don't use A+ panels doesn't mean that they're bad. It would have been more useful to talk about how they perform compared to brand name monitors, rather then the obvious lack of physical build or panel quality as per the price.

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If you check out reviews, both AnandTech and TFTCentral does very in depth monitor review of them, you can see how crap they are. This excludes their warranty service which is filled of conditions to not cover you, and you have to pay shipping to ship the monitor to them. Canada/U.S to South Korea is not cheap, especially a monitor.

Here are some:

qnix_qx320qhd

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx320qhd.htm

Not even close even back light, stuck at 100% brightness, no control on that. Near 0 input lag, and multiple inputs, BUT 12ms AVERAGE response time measured, this is the slowest by considerable amount from other monitors they reviewed.

Power light is overly bright and large. Decent color reproduction out of the box, but contrast is poor. Very poor interpolation.

QNIX QX2710

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm

PWM driven back light at only 156Hz, which means you can have a headache (the product page says "flicker free". I don't think they know what I mean, or it's stolen marketing material, which is usually the case), decent colors reproduction, 6.6ms response time, which is nice, but input lag is on the high side with 15.40ms. It is as slow as other monitors not targetted for gaming, but rather professional work, which contains fancy things like color processors. This monitor is barebone sadly, but multiple inputs.

Drops a lot of frames when overclocked.

Achieva Shimian 27" IPS Zero-G

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/achieva_27_ips-zero-g.htm

Glossy screen, brightness is fake, it plays with the colors, and not actually adjust the back light. Back light stuck at 100%. Good colors, poor contrast, heavy back light bleeding, good response time at ~7ms, but input lag is once again in the territory of fancy monitors, reaching 22.75ms.

Of course, as manufacture rejects are used, your results may vary. Keep in mind that rejection can be due to:

-> Back light bleeding.

-> Faulty pixels (1 or more stuck on black or a color, or no LCD liquid inside).

-> Improper grid forming at a location or area, leading a star light effect on black as you move your head, or blurry.

-> Durability (Physical durability, and/or life span).

-> Doesn't follow expected specifications.

However, they are cheap. Many people don't care about the downside, many do get a great monitor with no issue THEY see (then again many of them comes from far worst monitors, just something to keep in mind).

But as dizmo mentioned, if you wait and look for specials, you can find some nice branded monitors for very close to the same price (of course the better brands like Dell or ASUS (compared to AOC, for example) costs more), and you know what you'll get for sure, you know that you'll get a A+ panel, the build quality is there, the monitor is full feature. You have a full warranty, especially ASUS and more so Dell (Dell allows you to keep the monitor while they ship you the replacement, the replacement monitor in teh box, has a pre-paid shipping label for you to swamp the monitor and ship back the monitor to Dell. Dell pays shipping both direction). great dead/stuck/bright pixel policy, long 3 year warranty, and well the whole package for the monitor.

It is all good if you get those ebay Korean monitor, I have to admit they do seam to take some effort in picking the best panel before selling, and not blindly putting them in their monitors, but consider what you are getting.

Keep in mind that you have shipping cost as well. While some brands like Dell, has free shipping (although Dell, even on good specials is more expensive ~500$ for 2560x1440 monitors)

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Just because they don't use A+ panels doesn't mean that they're bad. It would have been more useful to talk about how they perform compared to brand name monitors, rather then the obvious lack of physical build or panel quality as per the price.

I never said they were bad because they didn't. I simply stated that's why they're cheaper, and why I consider them lesser when compared to the OEM brands monitors.

Which they are.

Physical build in regards to adjustments and panel quality ARE important to talk about. They're reasons why people buy monitors.

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Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

Spoiler

 

CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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