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OK I got some additional info from WD that just confirms what I have just said. The new releases of WD Black are indeed 0.45kg while the older ones are 0.69kg and the website is probably either referring to them or is not updated. The difference could be a result from a difference in the number of platters and other technological improvements, but as I said before - I cannot comment on the number, size and the materials of the platters that are used in the drives. 
 
TL/DR: 0.45kg drives should be the newer version of WD Black. The sheet that shows 0.69kg is probably not updated. :)
 
Hope this clarifies things,
 
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Now the WD Black WD1003FZEX has different weights ???

 

I will explain, take a look at these sources:

 

1. In this source it says that the WD Black WD1003FZEX weighs 0.69 kg but in this source it says it weighs 0.45 KG

 

So my question why is there different weights for the WD Black ??

 

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Edit: The following video at 0:49 weighs the drive and it weighs 439 grams.

 

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Now the WD Black WD1003FZEX has different weights ???

 

I will explain, take a look at these sources:

 

1. In this source it says that the WD Black WD1003FZEX weighs 0.69 kg but in this source it says it weighs 0.45 KG

 

So my question why is there different weights for the WD Black ??

 

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Maybe they changed some materials over time and one of those pages is just a bit older.

 

 

 

 

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One is full of data, that adds weight :D

Please serious answers only or GTFO.

 

Western Digital might've move to a different platter design, like from a two platter design to a single platter. That's my guess anyway.

I don't think so, I have done research and there isn't a signal reliable source that says the WD Black WD1003FZEX has two platters not one, also they are both the same drive and if they changed something then it isn't the same drive and they are advertising a new drive under the WD1003FZEX name, I would say what I said in the previous sentence isn't true.

Maybe they changed some materials over time and one of those pages is just a bit older.

Don't think so, actually the first source links to the other one, I don't think they have changed the drive.

 

Edit: The following video at 0:49 weighs the drive and it weighs 439 grams.

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Don't think so, actually the first source links to the other one, I don't think they have changed the drive.

Why is the weight so important to you?

 

 

 

 

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Why is the weight so important to you?

 

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I'm trying to know why is there conflict and why is there conflict, you come asking me why it's important, to answer you I just care about weight and don't respond it doesn't/shouldn't matter.

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Maybe 0,69 KG is the packaged drive and 0,45 KG is the aprox. weight of the drive

Don't think so, both of source talk about the drive it self, in the first source it's under Physical Dimensions section and it's all about the drive no packing what soever.

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Now the WD Black WD1003FZEX has different weights ???

 

I will explain, take a look at these sources:

 

1. In this source it says that the WD Black WD1003FZEX weighs 0.69 kg but in this source it says it weighs 0.45 KG

 

So my question why is there different weights for the WD Black ??

 

@Captain_WD

 

Edit: The following video at 0:49 weighs the drive and it weighs 439 grams.

 

 

 

Hey cesrai,
 
I don't get notifications from mentioning, so apologies if I respond a bit late. 
 
I have seen this video before and I have answered this question. 
WD Black is marketed and sold as a Performance drive and has additional features in the firmware as well as a built-in dual-core CPU for better performance and better handling of multiple tasks and cache optimization. That plus the longer warranty give it an edge over WD Blue when comparing the 1TB versions of both drives. The circumstances under which the two drives are compared heavily impact the end results. Generally the 1TB WD Black performs better than 1TB WD Blue because of the reasons above. 
 
 
In their 3rd comment OP mentions the difference in weights as well as the difference in designs. Other people explain the difference between the older and the newer design. Weights differences can also come from the number of platters and other components inside the drive that I am not allowed to discuss. Do have in mind that WD Caviar Black is different than WD Black.
 
I would stick to the drive's spec sheet for the details: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=UbfqEI
 
I will check with the guys for the difference in the two sheets and will update you here. :) Thanks for noticing that!
 
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Hey cesrai,
 
I don't get notifications from mentioning, so apologies if I respond a bit late. 
 
I have seen this video before and I have answered this question. 
WD Black is marketed and sold as a Performance drive and has additional features in the firmware as well as a built-in dual-core CPU for better performance and better handling of multiple tasks and cache optimization. That plus the longer warranty give it an edge over WD Blue when comparing the 1TB versions of both drives. The circumstances under which the two drives are compared heavily impact the end results. Generally the 1TB WD Black performs better than 1TB WD Blue because of the reasons above. 
 
 
In their 3rd comment OP mentions the difference in weights as well as the difference in designs. Other people explain the difference between the older and the newer design. Weights differences can also come from the number of platters and other components inside the drive that I am not allowed to discuss. Do have in mind that WD Caviar Black is different than WD Black.
 
I would stick to the drive's spec sheet for the details: http://products.wdc.com/support/kb.ashx?id=UbfqEI
 
I will check with the guys for the difference in the two sheets and will update you here. :) Thanks for noticing that!
 
Captain_WD.

 

No problem, you should report your bug to @colonel_mortis thread for bugs and issues.

 

Thanks I just want to know about the weight conflict, so now the WD Black WD1003FZEX should weigh 0.45 KG not 0.69KG ??? -by sticking to the drive's spec-

 

Now you mentioned the platters, does the WD Black WD1003FZEX has 1 platter or 2 platters or even more ??? also can you tell me the size of the platter ??? like 1 TB or 500 GB.

 

I'm looking forward to it -your feedback-.

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No problem, you should report your bug to @colonel_mortis thread for bugs and issues.

 

Thanks I just want to know about the weight conflict, so now the WD Black WD1003FZEX should weigh 0.45 KG not 0.69KG ??? -by sticking to the drive's spec-

 

Now you mentioned the platters, does the WD Black WD1003FZEX has 1 platter or 2 platters or even more ??? also can you tell me the size of the platter ??? like 1 TB or 500 GB.

 

I'm looking forward to it -your feedback-.

 

I have discussed the issue of mentioning with him and other mods, but the problem persists. Nevertheless, I tell people to drop a PM or a message on the feed if someone needs me or wants to ask a question.

 

Yes, I would stick to the drive's spec sheet that says 0.45kg. Either the other info is not updated or it refers to the older WD Caviar Black. I don't want to guess so I will update you once I get a reply from the guys.

 

Sadly I cannot discuss the number and size of the platters. 

 

You can check this thread for more info and questions regarding WD products: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/291871-wd-question-thread-hard-drives-dual-drive-setups-storage-setup-optimization/:) 

 

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I have discussed the issue of mentioning with him and other mods, but the problem persists. Nevertheless, I tell people to drop a PM or a message on the feed if someone needs me or wants to ask a question.

Yes, I would stick to the drive's spec sheet that says 0.45kg. Either the other info is not updated or it refers to the older WD Caviar Black. I don't want to guess so I will update you once I get a reply from the guys.

Sadly I cannot discuss the number and size of the platters.

You can check this thread for more info and questions regarding WD products: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/291871-wd-question-thread-hard-drives-dual-drive-setups-storage-setup-optimization/:)

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Thanks, so no way of knowing the platters number and their size, that means all peoplesaying it's one platter or two platters is just speculation, I guess only way of finding out is cracking that drive and seeing how many platters it has.

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Thanks, so no way of knowing the platters number and their size, that means all peoplesaying it's one platter or two platters is just speculation, I guess only way of finding out is cracking that drive and seeing how many platters it has.

 

I would think so. I don't see why would someone ruin a functioning drive just to see that, unless it has gone out of warranty and it has already failed. 

 

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I would think so. I don't see why would someone ruin a functioning drive just to see that, unless it has gone out of warranty and it has already failed. 

 

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Ruin it ?? I don't have one but if I did I would open it and then close it back together, do you think the drive would fail just because I opened it ????

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Ruin it ?? I don't have one but if I did I would open it and then close it back together, do you think the drive would fail just because I opened it ????

 

Opening the drive contaminates the platter and is prone to fail. Once a drive is opened it is MUCH more likely to fail. Not to mention the chance of dust and other things falling on the platter or on the read/write head and the fact that this voids the warranty. 

 

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Opening the drive contaminates the platter and is prone to fail. Once a drive is opened it is MUCH more likely to fail. Not to mention the chance of dust and other things falling on the platter or on the read/write head and the fact that this voids the warranty. 

 

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Thanks.

 

 

Waiting for your feedback on the conflict.

 

OK I got some additional info from WD that just confirms what I have just said. The new releases of WD Black are indeed 0.45kg while the older ones are 0.69kg and the website is probably either referring to them or is not updated. The difference could be a result from a difference in the number of platters and other technological improvements, but as I said before - I cannot comment on the number, size and the materials of the platters that are used in the drives. 
 
TL/DR: 0.45kg drives should be the newer version of WD Black. The sheet that shows 0.69kg is probably not updated. :)
 
Hope this clarifies things,
 
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OK I got some additional info from WD that just confirms what I have just said. The new releases of WD Black are indeed 0.45kg while the older ones are 0.69kg and the website is probably either referring to them or is not updated. The difference could be a result from a difference in the number of platters and other technological improvements, but as I said before - I cannot comment on the number, size and the materials of the platters that are used in the drives. 
 
TL/DR: 0.45kg drives should be the newer version of WD Black. The sheet that shows 0.69kg is probably not updated. :)
 
Hope this clarifies things,
 
Captain_WD.

 

Thanks it really does help.

 

Will it be updated ??

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Thanks it really does help.

 

Will it be updated ??

 

I would think so. I guess we will find out. They already know about the difference between the two sheets and if it's a mistake, they will fix it. If not, it is there for a reason and they will leave it. As I said, I would stick to a product's spec sheet for the most accurate and current information. :)
 
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I would think so. I guess we will find out. They already know about the difference between the two sheets and if it's a mistake, they will fix it. If not, it is there for a reason and they will leave it. As I said, I would stick to a product's spec sheet for the most accurate and current information. :)
 
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I have seen this video before and I have answered this question. 
WD Black is marketed and sold as a Performance drive and has additional features in the firmware as well as a built-in dual-core CPU for better performance and better handling of multiple tasks and cache optimization. That plus the longer warranty give it an edge over WD Blue when comparing the 1TB versions of both drives. The circumstances under which the two drives are compared heavily impact the end results. Generally the 1TB WD Black performs better than 1TB WD Blue because of the reasons above. 
 
-snip-
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Now, you said the end results would differ if the circumstances are different, what do you mean by different ??? also how would you make a fair comparison between them ??? 

I would really appreciate telling me how would you making a fair comparison between the Blue and Black drive that are mentioned in the video.

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Now, you said the end results would differ if the circumstances are different, what do you mean by different ??? also how would you make a fair comparison between them ??? 

I would really appreciate telling me how would you making a fair comparison between the Blue and Black drive that are mentioned in the video.

 

 

The results on the different drives depends on the way they are being benchmarked. Sequential speeds don't really matter in the real world for the purpose that the two drives are designed. Single-platter drives would generally have better results, emit less heat and be more quiet. It depends which exact models of WD Blue and WD Black are being benchmarked as both drives have been updated throughout the years and with the improved technology, some newer WD Blue drives might perform better than older WD Black drives. Also WD Black's performance quality comes from the way it is build with some additional hardware inside, additional features in the firmware, the integrated CPU and improved cache and the longer warranty. This makes the WD Black the more recommended drive for heavy-duty applications, multitasking and longer workloads over the WD Blue.
 
For fair testing of pure speed I would say that you should test drives produced in the same time frame (month, year, etc.), in the same computer with nothing else running or other drives working and with the same tool. Using different tools would give you better results as there might be differences in the results, depending on the tool. 
 
Real life difference between the two drives when it comes to simple computing or running a single program/working with a single file would be almost unnoticeable. The advantage of WD Black comes when the drive is being used extensive and with more demanding applications in more harsh environments (it is equipped with Vibration Control Technology, StableTrac Technology, High Resolution Controller and has gone through additional extensive Functional Integrity Testing to ensure drive reliability).
 
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The results on the different drives depends on the way they are being benchmarked. Sequential speeds don't really matter in the real world for the purpose that the two drives are designed. Single-platter drives would generally have better results, emit less heat and be more quiet. It depends which exact models of WD Blue and WD Black are being benchmarked as both drives have been updated throughout the years and with the improved technology, some newer WD Blue drives might perform better than older WD Black drives. Also WD Black's performance quality comes from the way it is build with some additional hardware inside, additional features in the firmware, the integrated CPU and improved cache and the longer warranty. This makes the WD Black the more recommended drive for heavy-duty applications, multitasking and longer workloads over the WD Blue.
 
For fair testing of pure speed I would say that you should test drives produced in the same time frame (month, year, etc.), in the same computer with nothing else running or other drives working and with the same tool. Using different tools would give you better results as there might be differences in the results, depending on the tool. 
 
Real life difference between the two drives when it comes to simple computing or running a single program/working with a single file would be almost unnoticeable. The advantage of WD Black comes when the drive is being used extensive and with more demanding applications in more harsh environments (it is equipped with Vibration Control Technology, StableTrac Technology, High Resolution Controller and has gone through additional extensive Functional Integrity Testing to ensure drive reliability).
 
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How would you produce that ???

 

I'm asking because the guy in the video Bryan who made the video said he would do another video if your suggestion would help and show in real life results.

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How would you produce that ???

 

I'm asking because the guy in the video Bryan who made the video said he would do another video if your suggestion would help and show in real life results.

 

OK I got some more info from the guys over at WD. :) I'm sorry it took a bit long to respond.
 
This problem has occurred more than once and drive series are not being updated simultaneously. WD Blue was the recent drive to be updated (hardware and firmware wise) nad its internal components have been refreshed and this outperforming WD Black in some rare cases. WD Black is yet to be refreshed (soon) and then those cases will disappear. WD Blue and WD Black are based on the same hardware platform, but WD Black has additional features to help increase performance (as I mentioned before). You can check the link to GamersNexus where you can find a good explanation on why this could happen: http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1741-wd-blue-vs-black-comparison-best-drive-for-gaming:)
 
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OK I got some more info from the guys over at WD. :) I'm sorry it took a bit long to respond.

 

This problem has occurred more than once and drive series are not being updated simultaneously. WD Blue was the recent drive to be updated (hardware and firmware wise) nad its internal components have been refreshed and this outperforming WD Black in some rare cases. WD Black is yet to be refreshed (soon) and then those cases will disappear. WD Blue and WD Black are based on the same hardware platform, but WD Black has additional features to help increase performance (as I mentioned before). You can check the link to GamersNexus where you can find a good explanation on why this could happen: http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1741-wd-blue-vs-black-comparison-best-drive-for-gaming :)

 

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1. Didn't answer my question.

2. In his video he claims that the WD Black has two platters and the platter density is 800GB, he had no sources to back him up, unless it's true and you just told me that the Black has 2 platters and each is a 800GB.

3. He says there is no difference in any real technological difference between Blue and Black in terms of the processing and caching architecture, but clearly there is a difference, I can't imagine that dual CPU in the black doing nothing and not making a difference.

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1. Didn't answer my question.

2. In his video he claims that the WD Black has two platters and the platter density is 800GB, he had no sources to back him up, unless it's true and you just told me that the Black has 2 platters and each is a 800GB.

3. He says there is no difference in any real technological difference between Blue and Black in terms of the processing and caching architecture, but clearly there is a difference, I can't imagine that dual CPU in the black doing nothing and not making a difference.

 

1. The drives have to be from the same year and latest models (and I explained why the WD Blue might outperform the WD Black) on the same computer with the same program with nothing else running on them and completely empty.

 

2. Both drives's weight is almost identical. I mentioned that I cannot comment on the number of platters, their capacity or the material that they are built from.

 

3. Benchmarking is a single process that tests the drive's speed in a perfect environment (sequential and random read/write speeds) with no extra processes running. As I mentioned WD Black's design (components, CPU, firmware) is designed not so much to beat other drives in simple speed, but to perform better under heavier loads (multiple processes, longer runs, heavier tasks, more intense usage, more hostile working environment in terms of temperature, vibrations, etc. and others). 

 

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