How can I mount these fans and my radiator properly?

[Exuraz]

Hi,

 

Just received my new Noctua fans today and I wanted to plan how to fit them into the case.

I want to go with push configuration, so fans on top of the rad, for better performance (Heard this gave slightly better performance) and mainly because I don't want to have 'poop brown and vomit tan' visible in my case. 

 

 

I have screws available but I don't think they're long enough, especially because I want to put some extra anti-vibration pads inbetween. 

 

Ideally I would like to use the anti-vibration mounts as well, though will they support both 3 fans + a 360mm rad? If not the solution if simple and I can just move to longer screws. 

 

If they do, how can I mount the fans to the rad without occupying the top mounting holes of the fans, so that I can use the anti-vibration mounts to mount the entire thing to the case?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

Exuraz

 

PS. Sorry if the pic is too large

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LiamApex]

you need the screws and push is generally more effective than pull

[gozzygozborn]

If you want the fans on top, and in a push configuration that would mean that you are using the rad for an intake, which is not recommended.

[Exuraz]

you need the screws and push is generally more effective than pull

 

So can't use the rubber mounts I got with my fans? And some other solution to mount the radiator to the fans

 

 

If you want the fans on top, and in a push configuration that would mean that you are using the rad for an intake, which is not recommended.

Yeah the air from outside will go in. Isn't that recommended because of temperatures inside the case? I am sure it'll be fine though, will have plenty of airflow within the case.

[W-L]

Hi,

 

Just received my new Noctua fans today and I wanted to plan how to fit them into the case.

I want to go with push configuration, so fans on top of the rad, for better performance (Heard this gave slightly better performance) and mainly because I don't want to have 'poop brown and vomit tan' visible in my case. 

 

-PIC-

 

I have screws available but I don't think they're long enough, especially because I want to put some extra anti-vibration pads inbetween. 

 

Ideally I would like to use the anti-vibration mounts as well, though will they support both 3 fans + a 360mm rad? If not the solution if simple and I can just move to longer screws. 

 

If they do, how can I mount the fans to the rad without occupying the top mounting holes of the fans, so that I can use the anti-vibration mounts to mount the entire thing to the case?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

Exuraz

 

PS. Sorry if the pic is too large

 

If you want to use Noctua's rubber mounts you will need to order new screws that are a short length screw to mount into the bottom portion of the fan and screw it in by threading the screw driver through it. You can just hard mount it to the case using some rubber washers to dampen a little bit of vibrations. 

[gozzygozborn]

Yeah the air from outside will go in. Isn't that recommended because of temperatures inside the case? I am sure it'll be fine though, will have plenty of airflow within the case.

Think about it, the purpose of the loop is to take the heat away from the components and expel it out of the case, if you are using the rad as in intake, you are bringing that heat right back over your components.

[W-L]

Think about it, the purpose of the loop is to take the heat away from the components and expel it out of the case, if you are using the rad as in intake, you are bringing that heat right back over your components.

 

It's not a big problem, it will warm up things in your case but you will also be benefiting from getting the coldest possible air to cool your loop components. As long as the case has adequate exhaust to remove that heat then it will be fine.

[Exuraz]

If you want to use Noctua's rubber mounts you will need to order new screws that are a short length screw to mount into the bottom portion of the fan and screw it in by threading the screw driver through it. You can just hard mount it to the case using some rubber washers to dampen a little bit of vibrations. 

Yeah I am sure I would have some screws around here but will the amount of vibrations be significant or just very small, and will the rubber mounts be able to hold the entire thing? With water in the rad it seems quite heavy to me to be just hold by some pieces of rubber.

 

 

 

Think about it, the purpose of the loop is to take the heat away from the components and expel it out of the case, if you are using the rad as in intake, you are bringing that heat right back over your components.

I understand, but I can make it so that the airflow will exhaust it in the back right away. Besides, when I had them push the air out instead of in and I felt at the top of the case with my hands, the exhausted air wasn't hot at all and actually cool enough to make my phone feel nice and cold (metal phone) when I put it on top for a while. Would make me think the moving air still has a cooling effect.

[gozzygozborn]

I understand, but I can make it so that the airflow will exhaust it in the back right away. Besides, when I had them push the air out instead of in and I felt at the top of the case with my hands, the exhausted air wasn't hot at all and actually cool enough to make my phone feel nice and cold (metal phone) when I put it on top for a while. Would make me think the moving air still has a cooling effect.

Yes the moving air will still have some cooling affect, but not as much as fresh air.

[W-L]

Yeah I am sure I would have some screws around here but will the amount of vibrations be significant or just very small, and will the rubber mounts be able to hold the entire thing? With water in the rad it seems quite heavy to me to be just hold by some pieces of rubber.

 

 

 

I understand, but I can make it so that the airflow will exhaust it in the back right away. Besides, when I had them push the air out instead of in and I felt at the top of the case with my hands, the exhausted air wasn't hot at all and actually cool enough to make my phone feel nice and cold (metal phone) when I put it on top for a while. Would make me think the moving air still has a cooling effect.

 

It depends on the durometer of the rubber if it's super soft, like silicone then it may fall out of the mount due to the weight but some of those rubber mounts are so hard to remove it's basically like ripping the rubber before it will come off.

Here's an idea of what I meant by using a short screws on the bottom:

[Exuraz]

It depends on the durometer of the rubber if it's super soft, like silicone then it may fall out of the mount due to the weight but some of those rubber mounts are so hard to remove it's basically like ripping the rubber before it will come off.

Here's an idea of what I meant by using a short screws on the bottom:

 

Yeah I understand, just tried and I can get a screwdriver through the top hole just fine so if I find some small screws I can mount them that way, thanks. 

 

To me the rubber mounts seem quite stiff and I really have to do my best to get them out. Was concerned about breaking them indeed when I tried them so I suppose that'll be fine. Might even be the anti-vibration pad I ordered has double sticky sides which would increase the strenght of it even more.

 

 

Yes the moving air will still have some cooling affect, but not as much as fresh air.

Yeah true, but as long as it cools instead of heats it's fine. Only downside would be the looks. Some fans visible in your case looks better than a radiator I suppose, though I am sure I can figure something out to make it look nice as well. 

[carlosriosness]

On 1/28/2015 at 2:13 PM, W-L said:

 

It depends on the durometer of the rubber if it's super soft, like silicone then it may fall out of the mount due to the weight but some of those rubber mounts are so hard to remove it's basically like ripping the rubber before it will come off.

Here's an idea of what I meant by using a short screws on the bottom:

 

 

what size screws are those? i am assuming 6-32, but what length?

 

i am planning on mounting a gpu rad as an intake in pull configuration. so this means it will go case->rad->fan. that means i need a short screw to mount rad to the case, but i dont know what size is long enough, but not too long so it bends the fins of the rad. i am guessing the screw you used in the photo will work for what i need.

 

i am getting noctuas new a12x15 fans on monday (they are only 15mm thick). so i will have to pick up some screws for that too since all my current fan screws are 30mm long. i will have to find some 6-32 20mm long screws (aka 3/4 inch long).

 

i dont get why people get mad about posting on an old thread. if it still has helpful info, whats so bad? anyways. i hope someone can help point me in the right direction. thank you.

[W-L]

2 hours ago, carlosriosness said:

what size screws are those? i am assuming 6-32, but what length?

i am planning on mounting a gpu rad as an intake in pull configuration. so this means it will go case->rad->fan. that means i need a short screw to mount rad to the case, but i dont know what size is long enough, but not too long so it bends the fins of the rad. i am guessing the screw you used in the photo will work for what i need.

i am getting noctuas new a12x15 fans on monday (they are only 15mm thick). so i will have to pick up some screws for that too since all my current fan screws are 30mm long. i will have to find some 6-32 20mm long screws (aka 3/4 inch long).

i dont get why people get mad about posting on an old thread. if it still has helpful info, whats so bad? anyways. i hope someone can help point me in the right direction. thank you.

Not exactly sure what size they but 6-32 and M3 are the most common, just note the length can vary depending on the fans thickness especially if it has rubber viubration mounts and such.

 

Also to answer your question it depends on the topic as it tends to bump old threads up, but please do refrain from doing so but instead a better solution is to link to the original post.