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Will VRAM-gate hurt Nvidia?

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Now that Nvidia has released a statement explaining that they basically knew about the GTX 970's VRAM effectively being limited to 3.5 GB all along, and that the card is "working as intended"(because their intention was to make money off this card apparently), does this change your view of Nvidia and willingness to buy from them in the future?

 

For me its not about whether this will dramatically affect my gaming with this card, its the fact they knowingly used false advertisement, then played stupid when they got caught, claiming they were "looking into the problem" when they knew this wasn't some bug they recently became aware of. I see this as blatant corporate misbehavior by a company with a track record of shady monopolistic practices. People should report Nvidia to the better business bureau.

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Its the GTX 460 all over again so nope 
(I believe it was this card that hard the same issue before)

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It very well good be a mistake 

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They said its a problem.

 

Now they say its not / never was a problem and they knew about it.

 

GG Nvidia

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Vram gate? Srsly?

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lol. If you worry about that.. you wont be buying anything then... every single piece of hardware is overprized, and over advertized to be simply the jesus christ of everything... thats how it is... wether you find out they are bullshiting or not

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wtf is this load of bollocks, vram gate, are you shitting me, get your act together grow up and stop trying to evoke a war.

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lol. If you worry about that.. you wont be buying anything then... every single piece of hardware is overprized, and over advertized to be simply the jesus christ of everything... thats how it is... wether you find out they are bullshiting or not

 

Sorry, but this cynical attitude is why corporations keep doing this shit. Its one thing if a company screws up, its another thing when they screw you over on purpose. This situation is a perfect example of what happens when a corporation gains a monopoly. You see the same thing with Microsoft.

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Oh good god, not being able to use half a gig at 1080p /s

 

Look at the 480. That thing left burn marks. Literally. 

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Oh good god, not being able to use half a gig at 1080p /s

 

Look at the 480. That thing left burn marks. Literally. 

So why didn't Nvidia just leave the card's VRAM at 3.5 gb,  and list it at that, if its not a big deal at all?

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So why didn't Nvidia just leave the card's VRAM at 3.5 gb,  and list it at that, if its not a big deal at all?

Because 3.5GB = 256 bit bus is stupid. Usually the 256 bit bus is matched with either 2GB or 4GB of VRAM. 

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Oh good god, not being able to use half a gig at 1080p /s

 

Look at the 480. That thing left burn marks. Literally. 

It might be just a 0,5GB, but it was still advertised and priced as a 4GB card. GTX 970 is (most likely) the most popular card on the market. If you could afford it, you got one in your build. That's why there's so many pissed off people.

Personally tho, I don't think it'll hurt nVidia in any significant way. Intel's done so many crappy things in the past (their ruthless marketing often resulting in lawsuits) and people still choose to buy their processors. In the end people care only about the bang for the buck (which is completely reasonable). There's no room for hard feelings.

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So why didn't Nvidia just leave the card's VRAM at 3.5 gb,  and list it at that, if its not a big deal at all?

Because of reasons, because they can, marketing. Whatever reason at 1080p it doesnt matter, at 1440p neither with a single card.

 

The benchmarks are still saying the same damn results. The cards specs didnt change now because we know this. Mine didnt slow down its gaming performance so stop making a mountain out of a stone. Yes not telling this out loudly enogh was an asshole-move but nvidia ia a company too after all. Big companies are assholes. I know it. Im working in the pharmaceutrical industry. And the leading staff of all pharma-companies are assholes. 

 

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STOP ADDING GATE TO EVERYTHING! My god this is so annoying.

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Well here's the thing, many people went nuts over the idea of 970s in SLI at higher than 1080p resolutions, and it seems to me this is exactly the situation where this memory issue could affect performance. Would these same people have spent 800 dollars on two 970s had they known this issue? A lot of them probably wouldn't have. That's not chump change.

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I can't believe people need to push things like that up with gate... sounds totally ridiculous TBH.

 

nVidia did what every industrial company would do, cover up the sh.. and hope no one finds out because the cards were done when this came up. Well I don't say that this is good, in fact hiding this makes customers lose their faith in certain products or companies. But first of all it doesn't make the GTX970 a bad card and if people don't like a certain brand stop ranting around and just don't buy it anymore.

Oh and BTW before I forget... AMD had similar credibility issues when they released the R9 290(X) because the standard heatsink and memory controller were so bad that people got black screens in stock settings, the board partners did more than an awesome job on these cards and made them very competitive.

All big companies do things like that when the product they develope is in a late or release state and it won't affect it's overall functionality.

 

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I can't believe people need to push things like that up with gate... sounds totally ridiculous TBH.

 

nVidia did what every industrial company would do, cover up the sh.. and hope no one finds out because the cards were done when this came up. Well I don't say that this is good, in fact hiding this makes customers lose their faith in certain products or companies. But first of all it doesn't make the GTX970 a bad card and if people don't like a certain brand stop ranting around and just don't buy it anymore.

Oh and BTW before I forget... AMD had similar credibility issues when they released the R9 290(X) because the standard heatsink and memory controller were so bad that people got black screens in stock settings, the board partners did more than an awesome job on these cards and made them very competitive.

All big companies do things like that when the product they develope is in a late or release state and it won't affect it's overall functionality.

 

 

The 290x problem was at least fixable, and known from the start. The 970 memory issue isn't fixable, and didn't come to light until Nvidia sold a shit ton of them. They probably knew it would come out eventually, but if they could keep it under wraps through holiday sales they were probably fine with that.

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The 290x problem was at least fixable, and known from the start. The 970 memory issue isn't fixable, and didn't come to light until Nvidia sold a shit ton of them. They probably knew it would come out eventually, but if they could keep it under wraps through holiday sales they were probably fine with that.

How would you fix that issue on a reference design? Not everybody wants to go for a custom watercooler.

 

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How would you fix that issue on a reference design? Not everybody wants to go for a custom watercooler.

 

 

By not getting one with a reference cooler.

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No because Nvidia fanboys.

 

I have a 970 and I agree, it's a bit disappointing, and probably explains why 970 SLI gets dicked on at 4k by 290x Crossfire.

 

However, it's better than Nvidia giving only 3GB to the 970, and 3.5GB would just be an odd number.

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No because Nvidia fanboys.

 

I have a 970 and I agree, it's a bit disappointing, and probably explains why 970 SLI gets dicked on at 4k by 290x Crossfire.

 

However, it's better than Nvidia giving only 3GB to the 970, and 3.5GB would just be an odd number.

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By not getting one with a reference cooler.

Aha wow awesome advice for people that bought a card at release when custom designs were not available...

 

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the 550Ti 1GB had 256MB of slow Ram, and the 2GB 660/660Ti had 512MB of gimped Ram. neither of these examples hurt Nvidia because its something predictable. With the 970 it was impossible to predict because the bus width and ram size made sense. I think because the 970 case is different and unpredictable for future graphic cards, it might leave a lasting impact on consumer confidence, where reviewers might test every new Nvidia GPU from now on for this problem.

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