AMD is already designing products on the 14nm node

[Deletive]

AMD updates from January 20th in their Company earnings call meeting. AMD is already working on products based on the 14nm process node, according to CEO Dr Lisa Su.
 

 

Advanced Micro Devices on Tuesday confirmed for the first time that it is actively designing several chips that will be made using 14nm FinFET process technology. The announcement from AMD indicates that the company will manufacture its new chips either at GlobalFoundries or Samsung Electronics, not at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., which is a huge surprise.

 

Advanced Micro Devices on Tuesday confirmed for the first time that it is actively designing several chips that will be made using 14nm FinFET process technology. The announcement from AMD indicates that the company will manufacture its new chips either at GlobalFoundries or Samsung Electronics, not at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., which is a huge surprise.

It so far isn't known which AMD products will be getting a 14nm-makeover first, but it is presumed semi custom chips (not including console chips).

Word on their financial analyst day has been put on hold since mid-november to reshape it's long term roadmaps. More infomation about future nodes and products such as maybe FX line to be discussed at this event.

For more in-depth infomation:
http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/79758-amd-already-designing-products-14nm-node/

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/amd-we-are-actively-designing-14nm-finfet-chips/

 

[Bogica]

There was also some word about AMD going competitive in the high end market again. I hope it's true, would be nice to see some price drops and some AMD performance chips once again.

[AnnoyedShelf]

Well.  This could really give AMD an advantage over the competition.

[Enflics]

Great! Can't wait for their GPU's right now but if we will get "Zen" Cpus at 14nm that would be awesome!

[Darkman]

Lets hope. Nvidia and Intel really need competition... Seriously, we need competition now!

[Laputacake]

Lets hope. Nvidia and Intel really need competition... Seriously, we need competition now!

This ^. Intel barely has competition now and Nvidia takes everything over the 970 price bracket

[MbV93]

AMD Zen! Gimmie!!

[AlexGoesHigh]

they should, their main competitor has chips using that node already out in the public

[Darkman]

This ^. Intel barely has competition now and Nvidia takes everything over the 970 price bracket

Without competition they can slack a lot and not really have any worry on where their products need to perform... And with 4K here, we are lacking hard in the GPU department to run games at 60FPS 4K.

[Bogica]

Ok, so I want a low power, high performance chip with awesome battery life and possibly passive cooling for Windows 10 tablets/hybrids (even better than Core M) and I want high performance chips in both laptops and desktops. I guess I'm asking too much!

[Laputacake]

Without competition they can slack a lot and not really have any worry on where their products need to perform... And with 4K here, we are lacking hard in the GPU department to run games at 60FPS 4K.

Think about the performance difference between Ivy Bridge to Haswell Refresh. And the smallest the 760 and the 960.

[Laputacake]

Ok, so I want a low power, high performance chip with awesome battery life and possibly passive cooling for Windows 10 tablets/hybrids (even better than Core M) and I want high performance chips in both laptops and desktops. I guess I'm asking too much!

As long as they're under 100w for the cpus i dont mind. Heck, Ive got a 850w PSU with an I5 and 760. I got plenty of power to spare

[GlassBomb]

Lets hope. Nvidia and Intel really need competition... Seriously, we need competition now!

This ^. Intel barely has competition now and Nvidia takes everything over the 970 price bracket

 

Yes, so much this. More competition is never a bad thing. It's silly to think that AMD is at what, 28nm for their current CPU's? When Intel is already at 14nm.

 

I want AMD to be more competitive in the higher end market again.

[Bogica]

As long as they're under 100w for the cpus i dont mind. Heck, Ive got a 850w PSU with an I5 and 760. I got plenty of power to spare

Agreed, even 125w is acceptable for the highest end chip but with a decent stock cooler or don't ship them with coolers at all.

That reminds me, I did a power draw test on my rig today. Plugged in a device that measures current and maximum power draw in W (don't know what you call them in English).

Turns out my PC pulls 80-100W in normal use and 225W as a MAX in ASC:U.

[Fate]

This ^. Intel barely has competition now and Nvidia takes everything over the 970 price bracket

Meh

In America 290's are $240 and the cheapest 970 is $315, I don't see a reason why someone would spend the extra $75 for 10% performance unless they really wanted the Nvidia features and/or power consumption is a big deal to them (it shouldn't be for most people). 

edit: 290x's are $270 (cheapest one) and they are about the same at 1080p and significantly better at 4k, I don't see many reasons to go with a 970 atm

[Laputacake]

Agreed, even 125w is acceptable for the highest end chip but with a decent stock cooler or don't ship them with coolers at all.

That reminds me, I did a power draw test on my rig today. Plugged in a device that measures current and maximum power draw in W (don't know what you call them in English).

Turns out my PC pulls 80-100W in normal use and 225W as a MAX in ASC:U.

Mine would probably be similar

[Sauron]

This is great, although I don't expect this to be avilable from them before 2016.

[Laputacake]

Meh

In America 290's are $240 and the cheapest 970 is $315, I don't see a reason why someone would spend the extra $75 for 10% performance unless they really wanted the Nvidia features and/or power consumption is a big deal to them (it shouldn't be for most people). 

edit: 290x's are $270 (cheapest one) and they are the same at 1080p and significantly better at 4k, I don't see many reasons to go with a 970 atm

Same but people think that the r9 290 will set their house on fire or its better because its new. R9 380X HYPE!

[Sauron]

This ^. Intel barely has competition now and Nvidia takes everything over the 970 price bracket

 

the thing is everything from AMD is under the 970 price bracket for no significant losses in performance. The current pricing of R9 290(x) cards put the 970 in a place where it almost doesn't make sense anymore. And for the price of a 980 or even less you can buy 2 R9 290Xs, which makes the 980 pointless... for little more you could even get a 295x2, which is even faster than 2 290xs. The 970 was very good value when it lunched, since the R9 290 was just around that price range, but now...

[flibberdipper]

I wonder how small the processes can get before we hit a wall and can't go farther. I remember being on a 180nm? Pentium 3 5 years ago, and have made stops at 130, 90, 65, 45, and now 22nm along the way. This is crazy for me. Must be crazier for people that have been around since at least the 8086.

[Laputacake]

the thing is everything from AMD is under the 970 price bracket for no significant losses in performance. The current pricing of R9 290(x) cards put the 970 in a place where it almost doesn't make sense anymore. And for the price of a 980 or even less you can buy 2 R9 290Xs, which makes the 980 pointless... for little more you could even get a 295x2, which is even faster than 2 290xs. The 970 was very good value when it lunched, since the R9 290 was just around that price range, but now...

Yup and yet 970s are still flying off of shelves. I mean the 290 isn't much more expensive than the 280x here.

[wolfgang]

i really hope this happens. it would be huge for the end consumers to have healthy competition.

[lak]

I guess that it will be around Q2 2016 or 2017 when this fab process goes into production? Encouraging news nonetheless! Hopefully the new R3XX GPU launch goes smoothly and it is up-hill from there. There is a lot weighing on the R3XX launch.

[Sauron]

Yup and yet 970s are still flying off of shelves. I mean the 290 isn't much more expensive than the 280x here.

 

Well, sure, sales nombers never really show what the sensible choice is ^^ iphones sell like cupcakes too for that matter

But more than the actual quality of the gpus I think there's marketing to blame for that. Nvidia always made sure they got as much visibility as possible, slapping their logo everywhere and paying OEMs to use their gpus in their prebuilts.

[xvantok]

When's all there new stuff scheduled for launch?