FX8350,8320,or 8300.

Moldy · December 20, 2014

Hey guys,i'm going to build a new rig soon and was thinking of getting either a FX8350,8320,or the newer 8300.The thing is that my budget is pretty strained so which CPU i buy affects what kind of cooling i can get,basically if i get an 8350 i stay on either stock or a cheap after market air cooler (So like the CM TX3 Evo),or get an fx8320/8300 and get a decent single 120MM liquid cooler or a mid end air cooler and just OC them to 8350 speeds.I also heard that the 8300 overclocks really well and i will have a good 990FX board so i'm not sure which one of these to get.Just a note: I'm sticking with these three CPU's and not getting an I5 because they are considerably more expensive and i'd way rather have either of these CPU's with an R9 290 than have an i5 with a 280x.

Jerakl · December 20, 2014

@Bubblewhale

Altecice · December 20, 2014

ALL the CPU's you have listed are the exact same chip underneath but have just been overclocked by various amounts in the factory. You can easily get an X8320 to OC to the 4ghz of an 8350 without adding any voltage and just tweaking the multi to x40.

Same goes for the 8350 and the 9000 series CPU's... the fact is most 8350's will get to 4.6-4.7Ghz on the stock voltage.

So yes go for the 8320 and just add to the multi to make it 4ghz and you are golden.

Laederem · December 20, 2014

I'm somewhat conflicted and want to recommend you to buy an i5 and 280x anyway, but as you so wish.

The best option would be 8350 with stock cooler, and buy the aftermarket cooler later. Avoid the 120mm AIO, those aren't worth the money.

If buying a CPU cooler later is not an option, for whatever reason, then the 8320 and a mid tier CPU cooler is fine as well (212 EVO)

Yes, you could overclock an 8320 to 8350 speeds, but you could overclock an 8350 so that argument fails.

Buying the cheapest chip and overclocking it isn't really the best option. You have better odds at a guaranteed higher clock with an 8350, and pairing that with a 290, you WILL be needing a good OC to have it functioning at full potential.

Keep in mind, the Intel option isn't really that much more expensive.

vlkn´ · December 20, 2014

just get a i5 -.-´

Talking about getting coolingsolutions for 120$+ and calling amd chips "cheaper"

Fate · December 20, 2014

Can get an i5 for cheaper than a 8350, I don't see why you're saying it's considerably more expensive...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $263.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $238.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Rodneyg87 · December 20, 2014

Hey guys,i'm going to build a new rig soon and was thinking of getting either a FX8350,8320,or the newer 8300.The thing is that my budget is pretty strained so which CPU i buy affects what kind of cooling i can get,basically if i get an 8350 i stay on either stock or a cheap after market air cooler (So like the CM TX3 Evo),or get an fx8320/8300 and get a decent single 120MM liquid cooler or a mid end air cooler and just OC them to 8350 speeds.I also heard that the 8300 overclocks really well and i will have a good 990FX board so i'm not sure which one of these to get.Just a note: I'm sticking with these three CPU's and not getting an I5 because they are considerably more expensive and i'd way rather have either of these CPU's with an R9 290 than have an i5 with a 280x.

Dude just get the 8350 and throw a 212 evo on it and youll be fine. The 120mm water coolers wont do as good as the evo.

flibberdipper · December 20, 2014

Well, the 8320 would be the best one, but... AM3+ is a dead socket now, and even the i5 4460 will beat the FX8350 (or higher).

jnmbhj · December 20, 2014

ALL the CPU's you have listed are the exact same chip underneath but have just been overclocked by various amounts in the factory. You can easily get an X8320 to OC to the 4ghz of an 8350 without adding any voltage and just tweaking the multi to x40.

Same goes for the 8350 and the 9000 series CPU's... the fact is most 8350's will get to 4.6-4.7Ghz on the stock voltage.

So yes go for the 8320 and just add to the multi to make it 4ghz and you are golden.

Um no, Most 8350 can get to 4.3 ghz on stock voltage but for 4.6 you need a lot more voltage (1.467)

Laederem · December 20, 2014

Can get an i5 for cheaper than a 8350, I don't see why you're saying it's considerably more expensive...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $263.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-20 17:22 EST-0500

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $238.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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That's not really a fair comparison, you can move around the money in a full build to get a better chip and board and still remain within reasonable costs.

Moldy · December 20, 2014

just get a i5 -.-´

Talking about getting coolingsolutions for 120$+ and calling amd chips "cheaper"

A single 120MM CPU cooler like the CM120M/120V are nowhere near $120,they are around $50 (sometimes less) right now,and the price difference between me getting a 8320/990fx board and me getting a 4690K and a z87/z97 board is about $110

vlkn´ · December 20, 2014

A single 120MM CPU cooler like the CM120M/120V are nowhere near $120,they are around $50 (sometimes less) right now,and the price difference between me getting a 8320/990fx board and me getting a 4690K and a z87/z97 board is about $110

wow 50$ thats cheap, we can only get the radiator in germany for 50$

Fate · December 20, 2014

That's not really a fair comparison, you can move around the money in a full build to get a better chip and board and still remain within reasonable costs.

I don't understand what you're saying...

OP said an i5 is more expensive than an 8350, but it's clearly cheaper all things considered.

jnmbhj · December 20, 2014

I dont recommend getting the 8XXX series FX processors now. Its outdated an intel CPU would be a lot better. Even the low end i5 would be better than a 8350 at gaming. The only reason you would want to go with a 8350 is if you want to do heavy multitasking and streaming. If you do choose to go with the 8320 then keep in mind there would not be any good upgrades for it. You cant upgrade the CPU. getting a second GPU for 1080p does not work.

But that being said if you would still like to go with the FX chip then I would say go with the 8320 because you can get it to the 8350 speeds quite easily.

Moldy · December 20, 2014

Can get an i5 for cheaper than a 8350, I don't see why you're saying it's considerably more expensive...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $263.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-20 17:22 EST-0500

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $238.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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I'd honestly rather go with a CPU with more threads and a way better motherboard not considering that it has an open core multiplier unlike the i5 4440.I forgot to mention that i'm getting a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 for only about $90.

Laederem · December 20, 2014

I don't understand what you're saying...

OP said an i5 is more expensive than an 8350, but it's clearly cheaper all things considered.

I wouldn't really consider those boards equal.

You can choose different parts (i.e. 280x instead of 290, 500w PSU instead of 600) and trim fat from places that they aren't needed and put that on a better board and chip.

Sure the CPU isn't absolutely critical for all the gaymin, but a 290 with a 8xxx is pretty underwhelming.

Fate · December 20, 2014

I'd honestly rather go with a CPU with more threads and a way better motherboard not considering that it has an open core multiplier unlike the i5 4440.I forgot to mention that i'm getting a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 for only about $90.

There's where AMD tricks you into thinking it's better. The i5 beats an 8350 in every game, even when overclocked. There's really no point to get an 8350 unless you're mostly editing, but who am I kidding? You're going to get an 8350 anyways.

I wouldn't really consider those boards equal.

You can choose different parts (i.e. 280x instead of 290, 500w PSU instead of 600) and trim fat from places that they aren't needed and put that on a better board and chip.

Sure the CPU isn't absolutely critical for all the gaymin, but a 290 with a 8xxx is pretty underwhelming.

Of course they're not equal, but you don't need a $100 board to run an i5-4440, like you do for an 8350 if you want to overclock.

Moldy · December 20, 2014

I dont recommend getting the 8XXX series FX processors now. Its outdated an intel CPU would be a lot better. Even the low end i5 would be better than a 8350 at gaming. The only reason you would want to go with a 8350 is if you want to do heavy multitasking and streaming. If you do choose to go with the 8320 then keep in mind there would not be any good upgrades for it. You cant upgrade the CPU. getting a second GPU for 1080p does not work.

But that being said if you would still like to go with the FX chip then I would say go with the 8320 because you can get it to the 8350 speeds quite easily.

Yeah i know the AM3+ platform is pretty much dead at this point,but isn't socket 1150 done too by now?Isn't intel introducing 1151 next year or something?That said i would go for an I5 (a decent overclockable one not a low end non-ocable one like the suggested 4440) if my budget allowed it but getting a Z87/97 board with a 4690k is way more expensive than just sticking with AM3+ for now.I saw some benchmarks and there doesn't seem to be much of a difference between 4690k's and 8350's in games as they are mostly GPU intensive.

Moldy · December 20, 2014

wow 50$ thats cheap, we can only get the radiator in germany for 50$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103195&cm_re=CM_seidon-_-35-103-195-_-Product

There are plenty of AIO's like that one for about $50.

Faceman · December 20, 2014

@Moldy

People think they are getting a good deal when they buy an FX for gaming, and they are not.

If you enjoy games like MMOs(ArcheAge, WoW, Guild Wars2, World of Tanks, Planetside2 etc..) DayZ, ARMA2, ARMA3, Dead Rising 3, Indies, RTS, Emulators, etc.. the FX will fall WAY behind the equally priced Intel processors making them unplayable(at least by my standards), sometimes even dropping to 15-20fps when the action starts.

Then there are other games that are playable, but no where near as fluid as they would be on Intel. A few examples are: Starcraft, Skyrim, Civilization V, Assassin's Creed, etc..

Then there are a lot of games where the FX will perform similar to Intel, provided you're using a 60Hz Monitor and don't see the bottleneck happening.

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This one above is Witcher 2.

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These are just a few games, and obviously skewed towards Intel, but my point is to try and illustrate that some games run very poorly on the weak cores on FX processors.

Benchmarks:

http://www.hardcorew...-4340-review/2/

http://www.hardwarep...8-games-tested/

http://www.tomshardw...cpu,3929-7.html

http://www.anandtech...w-vishera-95w/3

http://techreport.com/review/23750/amd-fx-8350-processor-reviewed/14

"To put it nicely, the FX-8370E is a true middle-of-the-road CPU. Using it only makes sense as long as the graphics card you choose comes from a similar performance segment.

Depending on the game in question, AMD’s new processor has the potential to keep you happy around the AMD Radeon R9 270X/285 or Nvidia GeForce GTX 760 or 660 Ti level.

A higher- or even high-end graphics card doesn’t make sense, as pairing it with AMD's FX-8370E simply limits the card's potential."

"This is a huge result – it wasn’t until we used a Haswell core CPU that the R9 280X was able to deliver consistent frame times and a 60 FPS frame rate in Assassin’s Creed IV. All three AMD CPUs we used – even the FX 8350 – and the Ivy Bridge Core i3 would deliver a sub 60 FPS frame rate, with frame spikes throughout the benchmark run.

In this case, the Core i3 4340 allows the R9 280X GPU to run at maximum potential, just like the Core i5 (and Core i7 would)."

"Pop over to the gaming scatter, though, and the picture changes dramatically. There, the FX-8350 is the highest-performance AMD desktop processor to date for gaming, finally toppling the venerable Phenom II X4 980. Yet the FX-8350's gaming performance almost exactly matches that of the Core i3-3225, a $134 Ivy Bridge-based processor. Meanwhile, the Core i5-3470 delivers markedly superior gaming performance for less money than the FX-8350. The FX-8350 isn't exactly bad for video games—its performance was generally acceptable in our tests. But it is relatively weak compared to the competition.

This strange divergence between the two performance pictures isn't just confined to gaming, of course. The FX-8350 is also relatively pokey in image processing applications, in SunSpider, and in the less widely multithreaded portions of our video encoding tests. Many of these scenarios rely on one or several threads, and the FX-8350 suffers compared to recent Intel chips in such cases. Still, the contrast between the FX-8350 and the Sandy/Ivy Bridge chips isn't nearly as acute as it was with the older FX processors. Piledriver's IPC gains and that 4GHz base clock have taken the edge off of our objections.

The other major consideration here is power consumption, and really, the FX-8350 isn't even the same class of product as the Ivy Bridge Core i5 processors on this front. There's a 48W gap between the TDP ratings of the Core i5 parts and the FX-8350, but in our tests, the actual difference at the wall socket between two similarly configured systems under load was over 100W. That gap is large enough to force the potential buyer to think deeply about the class of power supply, case, and CPU cooler he needs for his build. One could definitely get away with less expensive components for a Core i5 system."

"The FX-8370E stretches its legs a little in terms of minimum frame rates, particularly in SLI, however it is handily beaten by the i3-4330."

"Average frametimes did not do AMD’s processors any justice either. As we already said the game was fluid with i7 and i5’s, and somewhat playable with the i3 processor line. When we switched to FX CPUs not only did we have worse framerate but the gameplay was simply put, laggy."

The architecture behind the FX CPUs cannot keep up with high end graphics cards that require strong cores to consistently feed the card. Monitor your GPU load in your games and you will quickly see that your GPU is not running at 90%+ if you own a high end graphics card paired with an FX processor. Use an FX with a mid range GPU all you want, that is fine and you won't limit the card's potential and makes for a much more balanced rig. If you get into the upper echelon of GPUs, that is when you are holding your card back by the FX that has worse IPC than Conroe which dates back to 2005.

When AMD sends out R9 290Xs for review, or release new drivers they send out Intel i7s along with them because they know their FX processors can't power their high end GPUs to their max potential.

-Source

Check out LTT's own Cinebench Scores:

-LTT's Cinebench Database

These FXs are overclocked to 4.8Ghz and 5.3Ghz! and still fall well behind Intel's offerings.

Even when you pair the FX with a mid range GPU, it doesn't change the fact that some games are largely CPU bound and require strong IPC. Parallelism doesn't exist in games. There are not many, if any highly repetitive calculations going on in games that the CPU can guess what is coming next like in video editing or rendering. They have tricked you into thinking that more cores and higher Ghz is what matters for your CPU, when it all comes down to the architecture and instructions per cycle.

Websites like cpubenchmark.net have a suite of synthetic benchmarks that they run each processor through to spit out a score. Going by this, the FX8 outperforms the i5 because those synthetic tests are highly repetitive calculations that benefit from more cores. People see that result and automatically think "Oh, the FX8 is a much stronger processor than the i5." And in some tasks it is, gaming is just not one of them.

Gaming performance aside, the vast majority of daily tasks are single threaded. Everything you do on your desktop, booting up your computer, loading a simple program such as iTunes is going to be faster on Intel because these are single threaded tasks and the performance per core is so much more powerful which results in a more snappy overall experience. There are very few tasks that benefit from 8 cores. A program that really benefits from all the cores you throw at it is a real niche area, often reserved for content creation and calculations-not games.

I also want to throw in these power consumption graphs.

Top graph is power draw during Far Cry 3. This is a good example because Far Cry 3 hits both the CPU and GPU adequately. Some games will draw more power, some less, so this is a good middle of the road example.

The Below graph is during a x264 Encoding Benchmark with all processors at stock speeds.

Power consumption is another aspect of the FX CPU that needs to be talked about. It draws so much more power than the Intel equivalent, that in just 2-3 years of use, the FX will end up costing you even more money. Of course some places it is less expensive for energy than others, but you cannot deny that there is a 100W+ difference between an FX8 and an i5. This power disparity only grows the further you overclock the FX.

I will use the average price of residential electricity in the U.S., which is $0.1294c per KWh according to EIA in September 2014. I wish I could exclude Hawaii, because the electricity there kinda skews things unfavorably, so for this example, we will assume the average price is a flat $0.12 per KWh. We will also assume that the overclocked FX power draw is 100W higher than the stock i5(which is more realistic being as most FX8 users don't OC to 4.7Ghz). Lastly, lets assume that the average gamer plays for two hours per day, with an additional 2 hours of regular use(non-gaming), so lets just call it 3 hours a day to make it easy.

Power Consumption = 100W

Hours of Use Per Day = 3

Energy Consumed Per Day = .3 KWh

Price Per Killowatt Hour = $0.12

Energy Cost Per Day = $0.036

Energy Cost Per Month = $1.08

Energy Cost Per Year = $13.14

With our quick and dirty calculation, we see that the difference between the FX and i5 is going to add up to over $10 per year. With most of us wanting to keep our components as long as possible before having to upgrade, owning components for 2-3 years, and sometimes even longer, is not out of the question.

If you would like to calculate this for yourself, you will need to find out what the cost of energy is where you are located, and these two formulas:

Energy consumption calculation

The energy E in kilowatt-hours (kWh) per day is equal to the power P in watts (W) times number of usage hours per day t divided by 1000 watts per kilowatt:

E_(kWh/day) = P_(W) × t_(h/day) / 1000_(W/kW)

Energy cost calculation

The energy cost per day in dollars is equal to the energy consumption E in kWh per day times the energy cost of 1 kWh in cents/kWh divided by 100 cents per dollar:

Cost_($/day) = E_(kWh/day) × Cost_(cent/kWh) / 100_(cent/$)

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You should really read through the link above, it is a great and detailed read. Here is the conclusion.

"Conclusion

If you've made it this far, congrats and thank you very, very much for reading. I appreciate it genuinely.

Okay, so let's conclude. Yes, Intel won 5-2, but that's meaningless. Looking at benchmarks for the sake of looking at benchmarks doesn't

help us. What helps us is seeing where the 4670K wins massively and where the 8350 wins massively.

Gaming

In gaming, the 4670K wins. This is said by Linus, said by AnandTech, said by Bit-Tech, said by Tom's Hardware, said all around the internet

except for at Tek Syndicate. If you are going for a gaming PC, go with the 4670K.

Video Editing and 3D Rendering

Yes, there are benchmarks where the 8350 beats the 4670K, however, what is important is that these two are almost neck and neck.

Some sites have the 8350 ever so slightly faster, some have the 3570K/4670K as ever so slightly faster. At the end of the day, it's too close to call.

However, the extra IPC that Haswell offers should help in a wider variety of situations, so I would award this to the 4670K.

Calculations

This one goes to the 8350 which demonstrates a higher performance with calculations throughout due to its higher core count. It beats Intel convincingly

in most calculation benchmarks.

So, what does this mean?

This has been said in the introduction, but I will say it again. I am not an Intel fanboy, which is why I went out to research instead of screaming that Intel

is better. I have suggested AMD in the past, their Athlon 64 was better than the Pentium 4, their Athlon 64 x2 was better than the Pentium D. However,

I genuinely dislike the promulgation of false information, especially to people who are asking for help selecting new parts.

If you're an AMD fanboy, you're not going to like it, but Intel's 4670K is better than AMD's 8350. Regardless of however you look at it, in most situations,

the 4670K wins, but it isn't just that, its far superior IPC gives it such an advantage in most every day tasks, which are mostly still single-threaded.

The AMD 8350 is good for certain workloads, but apart from those workloads, it is simply terrible. Its IPC, which is weaker than the i7 920's, which is

5 years old, is simply too weak to put it as any sort of real competition to the 4670K.

I hope that this clears up some of the misconceptions here. Yes, AMD had their time, their Athlon 64 was better than the Intel Pentium 4, however,

those days are well and truly over. If, in this day and age, you recommend an AMD processor for any usage apart from calculations, you are either

being a fanboy or just plainly ignorant of the facts which say that the 4670K is superior.

Of course, this is not to say that nobody should use AMD, but, if you suggest an AMD build for someone else, especially if you suggest an 8350

against a 4670K, know that you are suggesting a worse option, especially for a gaming PC. To argue that the 8350 is competitive with the 4670K

across the board is delusional and just plainly wrong. Yes, you are wrong.

So that's it guys, for most people, the 4670K is the better option compared to the 8350 and the information shows it.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to read my little article. I hope I have helped you see what the statistics say about these two processors.

I appreciate you taking the time to read what I have written. Cheers :)"

This video is the most meticulous head to head comparison of the FX8 and i5. Its lengthy, but it is the most comprehensive and in-depth review of the FX8 and i5-4670k in a myriad of scenarios pitted against each other. Single player, multiplayer, 1080p, 1440p, power consumption, min/max/avg framerates, daily tasks, rendering, editing, streaming, mid level GPUs, high level GPUs, multi-threaded games, single core games, this video covers it all.

Also, when people say that the FX8 is a less expensive option, they are wrong. In order for the FX8 to be viable, it needs to be overclocked, which means you need a motherboard with at least 8+2 VRM phase design, and more expensive cooling solution. You can squeeze by on a 6+2, but you aren't going to get as consistent results as an 8+2, also overclocking results drop with the 6+2. This makes it cost the same, if not more than a locked i5 processor which will beat the FX8 in every single game, no matter how high the FX is overclocked. I'm not arguing that the processor is less expensive on AMD's side, but the ancillary components needed end up making it cost the same as a locked i5.

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Price breakdown by merchant: http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/88knQ7/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($217.35 @ Aquila Technology)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($61.02 @ Wiseguys)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($149.95 @ Computer Lounge)
Total: $428.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 01:07 NZDT+1300

Canada:

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/VCGVFT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/VCGVFT/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.96 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $226.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 06:52 EST-0500

Vs.

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/jsYCzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/jsYCzy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($141.96 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($98.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $271.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 06:53 EST-0500

United Kingdom:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/VCGVFT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/VCGVFT/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.20 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£32.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £164.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 12:01 GMT+0000

Vs.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jsYCzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jsYCzy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£101.50 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£63.54 @ Aria PC)
Total: £190.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 12:02 GMT+0000

Italy:

PCPartPicker part list: http://it.pcpartpicker.com/p/f39ZZL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://it.pcpartpicker.com/p/f39ZZL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (€173.38 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€41.17 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €214.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 13:03 CET+0100

Vs.

PCPartPicker part list: http://it.pcpartpicker.com/p/jsYCzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://it.pcpartpicker.com/p/jsYCzy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (€131.67 @ Amazon Italia)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€47.08 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€84.28 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €263.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 13:04 CET+0100

Spain:

PCPartPicker part list: http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/f39ZZL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/f39ZZL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (€165.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€40.09 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €205.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 13:04 CET+0100

Vs.

PCPartPicker part list: http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/jsYCzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/jsYCzy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (€127.99 @ Amazon Espana)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€47.30 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€85.83 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €261.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 13:05 CET+0100

Want to try and find a cheaper option for AMD? Be my guest. Here is the AM3+ Motherboard Phasing Guide. You need at least 6+2, but recommended 8+2.

With the AM3+ platform, there is nothing to upgrade to. Going from an FX6 to FX8 to FX9 doesn't yield much performance gains because they all use the same architecture, which has horrible single core performance. If you tried to go from FX8 to FX9, you're going to have to spend even more on super high end 990FX motherboard, and at least a $60 CPU Cooler. Just throwing money at a bottomless pit of poor gaming performance. Basically, you're stuck with what you have if you decide to go FX.

With Intel, upgrading is easy. You can go from an i5 to an i7 or Xeon, even if you're on one of the less expensive, and older motherboards. All that is necessary is a BIOS update, which is easy to do as long as you already have a Haswell processor, which you would have if you went this route. Even the soon to be released Broadwell processors should be compatible with H81 motherboards. They are going to be compatible with Devil's Canyon motherboards, which are also LGA1150, so they will fit in the same socket as these motherboards, so in theory all that is necessary is a BIOS update. Going this route, you won't be able to overclock using the multiplier, but you can always squeeze an extra 1-300Mhz by BCLK overclocking. Good thing Intel processors at stock already blow the doors off the highest overclocked FX chip out there. At least the option for truly increased performance is there with Intel, unlike with AMD.

Referring to the FX as the budget option, or good for its price needs to stop. $200 equals $200 but the performance of one does not equal the other in games.

Go ahead and buy an unlocked FX processor paired with a high end GPU. You won't get the most performance out of it, you will be limited in one out of five games, and you will be spending more money. A locked i5 is a vastly superior choice for gaming, and it gives you a clear upgrade path.

Moldy · December 20, 2014

There's where AMD tricks you into thinking it's better. The i5 beats an 8350 in every game, even when overclocked. There's really no point to get an 8350 unless you're mostly editing, but who am I kidding? You're going to get an 8350 anyways.

Of course they're not equal, but you don't need a $100 board to run an i5-4440, like you do for an 8350 if you want to overclock.

I'm not necessarily going to get an 8350,people have brought up some good points,and i might look into getting a non-fx CPU.I am on a budget though so i might end up getting one of the afore-mentioned CPUs.

Faceman · December 20, 2014

I'm not necessarily going to get an 8350,people have brought up some good points,and i might look into getting a non-fx CPU.I am on a budget though so i might end up getting one of the afore-mentioned CPUs.

What is your budget, location, and purpose? I also need to know if you need any peripherals, operating system, or if you can reuse any old components from a previous computer.

vlkn´ · December 20, 2014

A single 120MM CPU cooler like the CM120M/120V are nowhere near $120,they are around $50 (sometimes less) right now,and the price difference between me getting a 8320/990fx board and me getting a 4690K and a z87/z97 board is about $110

theres no need to overclock the i5... so........................................................................................... ++++++++++$$$$

Intel ftw

harrynowl · December 20, 2014

i5 4460 + H81M-P33V2.

Works out at a similar price. And is better in every situation.

Faceman · December 20, 2014

*tear*

I'm so proud of this community right now

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