Watercooling within a mineral oil pc

[Bab22]

Ok guys so I have this idea to put a watercooling loop within a mineral oil pc. I know that this seems redundant but i think it would look cool have a colored water cooling loop running through the mineral oil. If anyone and everyone could point out any problems I will be facing that would be great!

 

Thanks!

[Rheinwasser]

use hard tubing.

[Archangel1994]

1) it's 100% redundant

2) You're basically wasting mineral oil, also that mineral oil WILL heat up (inevitably) and the oil is good at keeping heat so it's actually detrimental on long sessions

[VincentiusIV]

Useless. Waste of money.

[Bab22]

I already stated that i know it's redundant. I'll be running a cooling loop for the water and mineral oil so the oil heating up should be an issue. (probably should have stated that) the main reason for this is i want the colored water tubes running through the mineral oil for lookas sake.

[Bab22]

use hard tubing.

 

Thanks that makes sense since soft rubber probably would cause problems in the long run. do you think there would be issues with the mineral oil eating through the sealing around the tubing? I would hate to have water leak into my mineral oil.

[airdeano]

If anyone and everyone could point out any problems I will be facing that would be great!

 

mineral oil systems are easy enough to maintain. but adding another subsystem

like water cooling that does need maintenance to it will complicate the process,

prolong simple tasks and the fittings (rotaries especially) have rubber seals that

the mineral oil will attack and erode. o-rings in the water blocks will rupture and

the water in the loop will empty into the mineral oil further complicating a messy

clean up.

 

reasons you haven't seen it done are that is not a viable necessity to have.

[Bab22]

mineral oil systems are easy enough to maintain. but adding another subsystem

like water cooling that does need maintenance to it will complicate the process,

prolong simple tasks and the fittings (rotaries especially) have rubber seals that

the mineral oil will attack and erode. o-rings in the water blocks will rupture and

the water in the loop will empty into the mineral oil further complicating a messy

clean up.

 

reasons you haven't seen it done are that is not a viable necessity to have

 

 

Good point, would using something else, such as epoxy, to seal the joints seem plausible? With an external flush valve to allow for the changing of the water

[airdeano]

Good point, would using something else, such as epoxy, to seal the joints seem plausible? With an external flush valve to allow for the changing of the water

 

nope. as the "seal" of the fittings, blocks and what-not is not 100% using

conventional sealants, epoxies, or joint sealers just will end up in the

mineral oil or the waterblocks causing heating issues.

[legopc]

1) it's 100% redundant

2) You're basically wasting mineral oil, also that mineral oil WILL heat up (inevitably) and the oil is good at keeping heat so it's actually detrimental on long sessions

i dont think the first part it true becuase how is a cpu waterblock going to "pass through" the heat of the cpu to the mineral oil? 

[Rheinwasser]

Thanks that makes sense since soft rubber probably would cause problems in the long run. do you think there would be issues with the mineral oil eating through the sealing around the tubing? I would hate to have water leak into my mineral oil.

rubber o-rings as @airdeano said.

 

hard tubing would be better because you don't really need to maintain it.

[Bab22]

rubber o-rings as @airdeano said.

 

hard tubing would be better because you don't really need to maintain it.

 

 

I've done some more research (a bunch) and apparently pvc has a good rating for mineral oil resistance. (http://kuriyama.thomasnet.com/Asset/Tigerflex-2011-Catalog-Final-11-10-11GK--Chemical-Resistance-Guides-Warning--PVC-and-Polyurethane-Guide.pdf)

 

Also I located the tubing that Puget systems used for their mineral oil cooling loops and they apparently use (koolance tubing. http://www.pugetsystems.com/store/?cat=Aquarium+Computer+Parts)

 

Which up further investigation is also flexible pvc piping. (http://koolance.com/tubing-clear-uv-reactive-pvc-13mm-x-16mm-1-2in-x-5-8in)

 

So that seems to be pointing me in the direction of using that for the tubing. Any thoughts?

 

Acrylic would be great but much harder to work with as the connector use rubber. I would have to get super creative to replace all the rubber grommets. withe the pvc I would only have to replace the grommets on the physical water blocks. The only other option is custom bending the acrylic so I don't have to deal with the connectors

[rausch]

Viton O-rings would be easy enough to source. that *should* address some of the o-ring rubber issues. ?

[Rheinwasser]

I've done some more research (a bunch) and apparently pvc has a good rating for mineral oil resistance. (http://kuriyama.thomasnet.com/Asset/Tigerflex-2011-Catalog-Final-11-10-11GK--Chemical-Resistance-Guides-Warning--PVC-and-Polyurethane-Guide.pdf)

 

Also I located the tubing that Puget systems used for their mineral oil cooling loops and they apparently use (koolance tubing. http://www.pugetsystems.com/store/?cat=Aquarium+Computer+Parts)

 

Which up further investigation is also flexible pvc piping. (http://koolance.com/tubing-clear-uv-reactive-pvc-13mm-x-16mm-1-2in-x-5-8in)

 

So that seems to be pointing me in the direction of using that for the tubing. Any thoughts?

 

Acrylic would be great but much harder to work with as the connector use rubber. I would have to get super creative to replace all the rubber grommets. withe the pvc I would only have to replace the grommets on the physical water blocks. The only other option is custom bending the acrylic so I don't have to deal with the connectors

the problem is that with soft tubing stuff builds up in your loop (sorry i forgot what it's called) and then you have a problem because you can't just take out the pc an redo the watercooling.

[ImBleu]

Good point, would using something else, such as epoxy, to seal the joints seem plausible? With an external flush valve to allow for the changing of the water

 

you could just have a pump pulling coloured water through hard pipes (bent, not with connectors) around the case and not connected to anything? 

[TBNRunity]

Also, if you have any leaks within the system it would be hard to tell unless you use colored liquid that would discolor the mineral oil

[scitzybunny]

dont forgert particle build up in the mineral oil.

is is nota good solution at all in anyway shape or form