PCMasterRace is Ignorant

[Suika]

Come at me.

 

PCMR argues its superiority for the wrong reasons, and why console plebs find PCMR to be irritating and foolish. Argue with me, if you'd like, but I feel like a lot of the arguments are not actually as solid as people would like to think. The ignorance of the PCMasterRace matches the ignorance they claim these console plebs have.

 

Somebody build me a $350 computer, with decent peripherals included, that can run all games on decent settings (ranging from 720-1080p), with a TDP of 100w, and is easy to set up. It also can't be based on Black Friday sales, used components, or old parts you "found throughout the house," because an Xbox One isn't based on any of those.

 

Come at me.

 

1) PC gaming is cheaper.

A: Dependent. What if, as I have now, I buy an Xbox One for $350, and get Destiny, Halo MCC, and Halo 5. I bought Destiny on sale for $30, with Xbox Live for $30, so that's a grand total of $530, and that's all I want. Now, to get a decent gaming computer to play all current games, I'm looking at a minimum of an i5-4440 and GTX 750 Ti, which could last awhile, but cost $500-600 depending on what else you buy on the PC (I've built 750 Ti & Pentium G3258 PCs for $500 with all the bling). Now include peripherals, then games, aaaaaannddd... The Xbox One was cheaper. Oh, well, that shouldn't happen, or be true, but it is. Also, people still buy games on release for PC at the full $60.

 

You can argue a G3258 is enough, but I disagree, since Far Cry 4 can't accommodate for Dual Cores, but the Xbox One can play FC4 fine.

 

2) Building a PC isn't hard.

A: It's not hard, but can be frustrating if you do something wrong. I can't say that "building a PC is hard" is a very effective argument, but I can easily argue, "I plugged in my Xbox, updated, and was ready to play." It was extremely easy, and still cheaper. Building a PC isn't hard, but setting up a console is even easier.

 

3) You have to deal with a cruddy community and little kids on a console.

A: I've met some really cool people on Destiny, and some really stupid kids on TF2. It's hard to summarize a community like that.

 

4) You can play with friends online.

A: It's 50x easier and cheaper to play with four friends in local multiplayer than setting up four laptops and computers for one game at one place.

 

5) You have to buy an entirely new console when Microsoft releases one.

A: And you have to upgrade a PC with the new consoles to match the new demands these new games might have. Ubisoft is a bad example, but a GTX 780 in the recommended specs for Watch_Dogs? That's probably just poor optimization, but I don't think PC will be getting the same great optimization that consoles have. There is also development on the Xbox 360 going on still, so you can easily wait for the next console to go down a little cheaper.

 

What do I think PCMR has? Obviously, a mouse and keyboard is undeniably the easier and better way to play. Not always comfortable for a couch or in local multiplayer, but the better way to play for a single gamer at a desk. Higher resolutions and better graphics is a major bonus for PC gaming. I'll argue with console plebs when one says the other is better, you're not buying the console for graphics, you're buying it for the exclusives, features, and controller. PC has the superior everything else. Modding support and better indie support, not to mention the constant F2P and reliance on digital media instead of physical discs (I prefer digital, but my internet is so bad). PC is, when you can afford it, the superior way to play games, but consoles are still great and serve a good purpose. At the price point they're being sold at, it's perfectly fine.

 

I like having a super PC, but the total and utter disrespect for consoles on here is ridiculous. They serve a purpose and they serve it well, I'm glad I own an Xbox One because of the games like Destiny and MCC. I have a minimum of 120 hours invested in Destiny already, but not so much on my PC for the past few months.

 

I'm also waiting for FC4 to go on sale for PC. I'd much rather have it on PC than console.

[Shd0w2]

older amd quad cores ftw.

[Tro]

did you really have to?

sigh.

[Oshino Shinobu]

More of this? 

 

Most people here that say "PCMasterRace" or something like that are being sarcastic and don't actually mean it. We know that there are reasons, drawbacks and advantages to both consoles and PC. 

[TheSLSAMG]

Obviously, a mouse and keyboard is undeniably the easier and better way to play.

It's not, that's personal preference. Better for accuracy in FPS games? Yes, but have you ever played a racing game with a KB/Mouse? Fucking nightmare, I tell you. A car's control must be fluid and gradual. A keyboard doesn't offer this range of control, just on/off.

[Jobbe03]

No one cares go away

[minibois]

But.. But mods and Steam sales?

[Suika]

It's not, that's personal preference. Better for accuracy in FPS games? Yes, but have you ever played a racing game with a KB/Mouse? Fucking nightmare, I tell you. A car's control must be fluid and gradual. A keyboard doesn't offer this range of control, just on/off.

Ah, I've never fully considered racing games. I rarely play them outside of Mario Kart, lol.

More of this? 

 

Most people here that say "PCMasterRace" or something like that are being sarcastic and don't actually mean it. We know that there are reasons, drawbacks and advantages to both consoles and PC. 

I've met some unfortunately serious people.

[TheMcSame]

There's some flaws here...

1) PC gaming is cheaper.

-snip-

When people say PC gaming is cheaper they mean it's cheaper in the long run.

 

2) Building a PC isn't hard.

-snip-

More of  a personal thing, some might find it frustrating, other might not.

 

4) You can play with friends online.

A: It's 50x easier and cheaper to play with four friends in local multiplayer than setting up four laptops and computers for one game at one place.

I don't even... Most people that play online with each other wont be doing LAN parties, they'll be using the online mode.

[WinNut]

PCMR isn't even a real thing. It's just a joke that we came up with.

[SeriouslyMikey]

[Tie Lightning]

 

 

1) PC gaming is cheaper.

A: Dependent. What if, as I have now, I buy an Xbox One for $350, and get Destiny, Halo MCC, and Halo 5. I bought Destiny on sale for $30, with Xbox Live for $30, so that's a grand total of $530, and that's all I want. Now, to get a decent gaming computer to play all current games, I'm looking at a minimum of an i5-4440 and GTX 750 Ti, which could last awhile, but cost $500-600 depending on what else you buy on the PC (I've built 750 Ti & Pentium G3258 PCs for $500 with all the bling). Now include peripherals, then games, aaaaaannddd... The Xbox One was cheaper. Oh, well, that shouldn't happen, or be true, but it is. Also, people still buy games on release for PC at the full $60.

 

You can argue a G3258 is enough, but I disagree, since Far Cry 4 can't accommodate for Dual Cores, but the Xbox One can play FC4 fine.

 

Well you have to consider that most people want to have 2 things. 1) A way to play current games, 2) A computer to browse the internet and do computery things. A decent computer will cost you $500 - $700, and a console will cost you $350-$400, why not just get a computer and then upgrade it a bit so that it can play games? An $800 gaming computer or a $500 computer + $400(and more) gaming console? It makes more sense to me to just get a computer that can do it all:D

[Mooshi]

You, I like you.

 

While it's true that some PC gamers use the PC Master Race tag jokingly, I've met some members who were dead serious. The slight mention of a console brings up "console players are plebs" and this has worn thin, at least to me, months ago. Raw power and overkill builts with flagship GPUs and 4k displays is amazing, but raw power alone does not make a game. For myself, give me something visually appealing that is fun. Legend of Zelda is visual appealing and the textures are nowhere near the crazy of modded Skyrim, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. If a game looks good, plays good and makes you feel good, that's a win.

 

One of my fav games on PC is Starbound and this looks like it came from the SNES 16 bit era... games are what you people should care about, not the platform it's played on. Pokemon over Ubisoft's broken trash for PC any day.

 

Disclosure: I used to be the type who was all PC Master Race and bashed consoles after letting myself get sucked in and snapped out of it when I realized how much of a pompous jackass I sounded. Huge difference between lighthearted smack talk (I grew up in the Nintendo vs Sega era) and being hardcore annoying.

[Laputacake]

And now for my input. People who say PCMR seriously are ignorat. Consoles are alright for someone who wants to just play and watch netflix. A pc is a work of art and can also be used for 100s of thousand of programs. We also get some real good exclusives and the awesomeness of mods. But then consoles have exclusives like MasterCheif. Its everyones prefrence.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

It's not, that's personal preference. Better for accuracy in FPS games? Yes, but have you ever played a racing game with a KB/Mouse? Fucking nightmare, I tell you. A car's control must be fluid and gradual. A keyboard doesn't offer this range of control, just on/off.

 

I like more a KB than a controller for driving.

[TheSLSAMG]

I like more a KB than a controller for driving.

 

I respect your opinion, but still don't understand how someone could think a keyboard is better than a controller for racing.

[bobhays]

No one cares go away

 

I do and this is a perfectly reasonable topic. I think its very good that we have one.

 

EDIT: SNIP

 

I'd like to start off with saying I don't believe in the typical PC MASTER RACE > everything.

 

OVERALL I think the PC is the better platform with the most potential, and I don't mean in graphics.

 

1. As someone posted above, it is cheaper in the long run. You have to pay extra to play online for console, the games do cost cheaper (I didn't really follow this until I recently discovered g2a.com with COD:AW already for $30). The incentive to get a console is the upfront is cheaper. Also I'd pair an i3 with a 750ti but that's not the point.

 

2. As long as you are installing windows, its basically like legos but more expensive haha. Yes it's easier to set up a console but work pays off, also you can get pre-built ones (custom or not) which are still reasonable.

 

3. You're point is completely valid and I agree.

 

4. Local multiplayer support is a huge advantage of console and one of the very few advantages I believe consoles have over pc's, but remember this only works if people are at your house but playing online is the same.

 

5. Yes, but when you upgrade a pc you can keep most of the things like power supply, hard drive, case, dvd drive which makes upgrades cheaper, but you are right about optimization (remember this isn't pc's fault its the developer, but it's still a disadvantage of pc), but even without optimization if you get a 780 you will still get much better graphics, Some titles like COD: AW are actually very good on pc. You can run it at 1080p with a 260x.

 

General: You can also use a controller on pc if you prefer it for racing or any other games.

[Suika]

 

Well you have to consider that most people want to have 2 things. 1) A way to play current games, 2) A computer to browse the internet and do computery things. A decent computer will cost you $500 - $700, and a console will cost you $350-$400, why not just get a computer and then upgrade it a bit so that it can play games? An $800 gaming computer or a $500 computer + $400(and more) gaming console? It makes more sense to me to just get a computer that can do it all:D

I could make due with an HP Stream ($200) and a console, I just choose not to.

 

There's some flaws here...

1) Understandably, but if you stay with the same rig. I haven't seen a computer from 2006 that still plays games as well as an Xbox 360 could, but I may be wrong. I personally haven't kept the same rig, but I'd like to consider myself more an enthusiast than anything.

2) I mean like, versus plugging a console in. Building a PC, even my first time, wasn't as difficult as I was expect.

3) For local games you might play with friends, having a console is always better and more fun, I mean. I'm the only one of my friends that actually has a PC capable of running games well.

[SteveGrabowski]

I don't get the hate for consoles either. I prefer PC because of the graphics and the modding, but I had a lot of fun playing my brother's XB1 the other day on his bigscreen TV when I went to hang out with him.

[Mooshi]

I'm the only one of my friends that actually has a PC capable of running games well.

 

 

This is something so many people fail to realize so much. A lot of good a well built custom rig does you when your friends are using crappy Dell boxes. Not everyone is a tech enthusiasts and it's easier getting friends together to game on the couch vs expecting all of them to have decently powerful computers.

[JaeDee884]

Come at me.

 

PCMR argues its superiority for the wrong reasons, and why console plebs find PCMR to be irritating and foolish. Argue with me, if you'd like, but I feel like a lot of the arguments are not actually as solid as people would like to think. The ignorance of the PCMasterRace matches the ignorance they claim these console plebs have.

 

Somebody build me a $350 computer, with decent peripherals included, that can run all games on decent settings (ranging from 720-1080p), with a TDP of 100w, and is easy to set up. It also can't be based on Black Friday sales, used components, or old parts you "found throughout the house," because an Xbox One isn't based on any of those.

 

Come at me.

 

1) PC gaming is cheaper.

A: Dependent. What if, as I have now, I buy an Xbox One for $350, and get Destiny, Halo MCC, and Halo 5. I bought Destiny on sale for $30, with Xbox Live for $30, so that's a grand total of $530, and that's all I want. Now, to get a decent gaming computer to play all current games, I'm looking at a minimum of an i5-4440 and GTX 750 Ti, which could last awhile, but cost $500-600 depending on what else you buy on the PC (I've built 750 Ti & Pentium G3258 PCs for $500 with all the bling). Now include peripherals, then games, aaaaaannddd... The Xbox One was cheaper. Oh, well, that shouldn't happen, or be true, but it is. Also, people still buy games on release for PC at the full $60.

 

You can argue a G3258 is enough, but I disagree, since Far Cry 4 can't accommodate for Dual Cores, but the Xbox One can play FC4 fine.

 

2) Building a PC isn't hard.

A: It's not hard, but can be frustrating if you do something wrong. I can't say that "building a PC is hard" is a very effective argument, but I can easily argue, "I plugged in my Xbox, updated, and was ready to play." It was extremely easy, and still cheaper. Building a PC isn't hard, but setting up a console is even easier.

 

3) You have to deal with a cruddy community and little kids on a console.

A: I've met some really cool people on Destiny, and some really stupid kids on TF2. It's hard to summarize a community like that.

 

4) You can play with friends online.

A: It's 50x easier and cheaper to play with four friends in local multiplayer than setting up four laptops and computers for one game at one place.

 

5) You have to buy an entirely new console when Microsoft releases one.

A: And you have to upgrade a PC with the new consoles to match the new demands these new games might have. Ubisoft is a bad example, but a GTX 780 in the recommended specs for Watch_Dogs? That's probably just poor optimization, but I don't think PC will be getting the same great optimization that consoles have. There is also development on the Xbox 360 going on still, so you can easily wait for the next console to go down a little cheaper.

 

What do I think PCMR has? Obviously, a mouse and keyboard is undeniably the easier and better way to play. Not always comfortable for a couch or in local multiplayer, but the better way to play for a single gamer at a desk. Higher resolutions and better graphics is a major bonus for PC gaming. I'll argue with console plebs when one says the other is better, you're not buying the console for graphics, you're buying it for the exclusives, features, and controller. PC has the superior everything else. Modding support and better indie support, not to mention the constant F2P and reliance on digital media instead of physical discs (I prefer digital, but my internet is so bad). PC is, when you can afford it, the superior way to play games, but consoles are still great and serve a good purpose. At the price point they're being sold at, it's perfectly fine.

 

I like having a super PC, but the total and utter disrespect for consoles on here is ridiculous. They serve a purpose and they serve it well, I'm glad I own an Xbox One because of the games like Destiny and MCC. I have a minimum of 120 hours invested in Destiny already, but not so much on my PC for the past few months.

 

I'm also waiting for FC4 to go on sale for PC. I'd much rather have it on PC than console.

 

 

 

1) PC gaming is cheaper.

A: Dependent. What if, as I have now, I buy an Xbox One for $350, and get Destiny, Halo MCC, and Halo 5. I bought Destiny on sale for $30, with Xbox Live for $30, so that's a grand total of $530, and that's all I want. Now, to get a decent gaming computer to play all current games, I'm looking at a minimum of an i5-4440 and GTX 750 Ti, which could last awhile, but cost $500-600 depending on what else you buy on the PC (I've built 750 Ti & Pentium G3258 PCs for $500 with all the bling). Now include peripherals, then games, aaaaaannddd... The Xbox One was cheaper. Oh, well, that shouldn't happen, or be true, but it is. Also, people still buy games on release for PC at the full $60.

 

You can argue a G3258 is enough, but I disagree, since Far Cry 4 can't accommodate for Dual Cores, but the Xbox One can play FC4 fine.

The G325 does work with farcry4, Its multithreaded, FarCRy 4 doesn't work on non multithreaded dual cores.

PC's definitely have a higher up front cost, the savings are there for people who buy a lot of games, someone who buys a couple games a year, console, someone who buys many, PC. and i bought farcry4 at $40 bucks on launch and I'm in Australia where it retailed for $78 on PC, and AMD cores will let you buy a nice budget system, with an AMD GPU, you wont be playing gamesd on Ultra, but you can freak graphical parity with a console for roughly the same cost.

 

2) Building a PC isn't hard.

A: It's not hard, but can be frustrating if you do something wrong. I can't say that "building a PC is hard" is a very effective argument, but I can easily argue, "I plugged in my Xbox, updated, and was ready to play." It was extremely easy, and still cheaper. Building a PC isn't hard, but setting up a console is even easier.

and their are services that will build your computer for an extra $99 bucks, in Australia thats an option, and again, Australia is the land of the rip offs.

 

3) You have to deal with a cruddy community and little kids on a console.

A: I've met some really cool people on Destiny, and some really stupid kids on TF2. It's hard to summarize a community like that.

Consoles hhave a higher rate of kids, but that doesn't mean the adults on pc are much better, Consoles are better community wise as its a bigger install base 

 

4) You can play with friends online.

A: It's 50x easier and cheaper to play with four friends in local multiplayer than setting up four laptops and computers for one game at one place.

actually if you have 4 friends with laptops i argue that 4 laptops over a decent wifi is much easier then local multiplayer, if you don't have a Wii, splitscreen is a terrible experience and it actually detracts from the experience, not that it cant be fun, but it massively tanks framerate. to the point of unplayability

 

5) You have to buy an entirely new console when Microsoft releases one.

A: And you have to upgrade a PC with the new consoles to match the new demands these new games might have. Ubisoft is a bad example, but a GTX 780 in the recommended specs for Watch_Dogs? That's probably just poor optimization, but I don't think PC will be getting the same great optimization that consoles have. There is also development on the Xbox 360 going on still, so you can easily wait for the next console to go down a little cheaper.

780 recommended based on using high or ultra presets. just scale your settings down. got a mate still using a 560ti and has no issues with any games, he just changed settings to have a playable framerate and it still looks decent. and better than console.

 

What do I think PCMR has? Obviously, a mouse and keyboard is undeniably the easier and better way to play. Not always comfortable for a couch or in local multiplayer, but the better way to play for a single gamer at a desk. Higher resolutions and better graphics is a major bonus for PC gaming. I'll argue with console plebs when one says the other is better, you're not buying the console for graphics, you're buying it for the exclusives, features, and controller. PC has the superior everything else. Modding support and better indie support, not to mention the constant F2P and reliance on digital media instead of physical discs (I prefer digital, but my internet is so bad). PC is, when you can afford it, the superior way to play games, but consoles are still great and serve a good purpose. At the price point they're being sold at, it's perfectly fine.

 

I like having a super PC, but the total and utter disrespect for consoles on here is ridiculous. They serve a purpose and they serve it well, I'm glad I own an Xbox One because of the games like Destiny and MCC. I have a minimum of 120 hours invested in Destiny already, but not so much on my PC for the past few months.

 

I'm also waiting for FC4 to go on sale for PC. I'd much rather have it on PC than console.

PC has a higher learning curve, but it has flexibility at the end of the day and thats why its a master race, a console is a good multimedia machine, and I've a ps4 in the lounge room and a ps3 in the bedroom, but my PC which was $1500 three years ago is still kicking at 60fps on high settings in farcry4. the hardware cost more, but the saving I've made on PC titles vs console titles is crazy, everytime a game comes out, nine times out of ten i get the PC version just based on costs alone. and i can use it for more then gaming. 

PC's have a harder entry point, but they're well worth it in the long run if you're smart with your money, and thats why they're the master race. 

[Archangel1994]

Somebody build me a $350 computer, with decent peripherals included, that can run all games on decent settings (ranging from 720-1080p), with a TDP of 100w, and is easy to set up. It also can't be based on Black Friday sales, used components, or old parts you "found throughout the house," because an Xbox One isn't based on any of those.

Not $350 but $400-500. Don't these discounts that have been dropped on them, they were $400-500 on release. I will show you a build soon.

 

 

1) PC gaming is cheaper.

A: Dependent. What if, as I have now, I buy an Xbox One for $350, and get Destiny, Halo MCC, and Halo 5. I bought Destiny on sale for $30, with Xbox Live for $30, so that's a grand total of $530, and that's all I want. Now, to get a decent gaming computer to play all current games, I'm looking at a minimum of an i5-4440 and GTX 750 Ti, which could last awhile, but cost $500-600 depending on what else you buy on the PC (I've built 750 Ti & Pentium G3258 PCs for $500 with all the bling). Now include peripherals, then games, aaaaaannddd... The Xbox One was cheaper. Oh, well, that shouldn't happen, or be true, but it is. Also, people still buy games on release for PC at the full $60.

PC gaming is cheaper is one of the most short-sighted statements ever. It's cheaper, IN THE LONG RUN! I still love how you say "bought in a sale". This is not relevant as the same could be done for the pc games AND components, do not count discounts. Say we keep both the PC and the console for 8 years (Time between xbox 360 and xbone). Normal price for XboxLive gold is about 40-45 a year I believe? Let's be generous and say 30. That's 450 for the console plus 8*30=240 just to play multiplayer = 690, You have not even bought a single game yet. Xbox games (the good ones anyway) are $50-60 but mostly 60. Now over the course of those 8 years you buy 12 of these $60 games (not at all an unreasonable guess). That's 690 + 720 = $1410. Now lets buy those same 60$ games on the PC, only here you can EASILY get them for 35, brand new like day of release. That's 12*35 = 420, leaving $990 for a PC just to equalize the costs. Well you know as well as I do that you can make a PC that can handle all of that for less than $990, making the PC a lot cheaper in the long run. "Also, people still buy games on release for PC at the full $60." Hell no, just no. Look at G2a, G2Play, Steam sales (50-90% lolz).

 

 

You can argue a G3258 is enough, but I disagree, since Far Cry 4 can't accommodate for Dual Cores, but the Xbox One can play FC4 fine.

 

2) Building a PC isn't hard.

A: It's not hard, but can be frustrating if you do something wrong. I can't say that "building a PC is hard" is a very effective argument, but I can easily argue, "I plugged in my Xbox, updated, and was ready to play." It was extremely easy, and still cheaper. Building a PC isn't hard, but setting up a console is even easier.

FC4 can't accommodate Dual cores true but that's not because dual cores lack in power, it's because FC4 is buggered and extremely poorly built. FC4 is an exception and should not be used as an example. BF4 can use 8 threads yet it can run fine on a G3258.

 

It's not hard at all indeed, a 5-year-old can build it (literally). Ease is not the issue here, it's functionality so I disagree with this argument in its entirety.

 

 

3) You have to deal with a cruddy community and little kids on a console.

A: I've met some really cool people on Destiny, and some really stupid kids on TF2. It's hard to summarize a community like that.

Experience has implied that the amount of immature infantile beings are more numerous on console than pc BECAUSE the console is more accessible. PC has its rotten eggs too but consoles have them more, way more (experienced first hand)

 

 

4) You can play with friends online.

A: It's 50x easier and cheaper to play with four friends in local multiplayer than setting up four laptops and computers for one game at one place.

It's 50x easier to not play on 4-player splitscreen for one. Also no need to travel to the same house but something can be said for both so this argument can be dropped.

 

 

5) You have to buy an entirely new console when Microsoft releases one.

A: And you have to upgrade a PC with the new consoles to match the new demands these new games might have. Ubisoft is a bad example, but a GTX 780 in the recommended specs for Watch_Dogs? That's probably just poor optimization, but I don't think PC will be getting the same great optimization that consoles have. There is also development on the Xbox 360 going on still, so you can easily wait for the next console to go down a little cheaper.

"And you have to upgrade a PC with the new consoles to match the new demands these new games might have". 100% not true. You can tone the dials down or upgrade JUST the GPU since the CPU is rarely the bottleneck. Resulting in an extremely cheap and efficient upgrade. Making the base cost of building a PC lower and therefore increasing the lower cost of PC's overtime. Also we can be content with lower fps whereas it's simply not released on your older console.

 

 

What do I think PCMR has? Obviously, a mouse and keyboard is undeniably the easier and better way to play. Not always comfortable for a couch or in local multiplayer, but the better way to play for a single gamer at a desk. Higher resolutions and better graphics is a major bonus for PC gaming. I'll argue with console plebs when one says the other is better, you're not buying the console for graphics, you're buying it for the exclusives, features, and controller. PC has the superior everything else. Modding support and better indie support, not to mention the constant F2P and reliance on digital media instead of physical discs (I prefer digital, but my internet is so bad). PC is, when you can afford it, the superior way to play games, but consoles are still great and serve a good purpose. At the price point they're being sold at, it's perfectly fine.

THis is why PCMR exists (partially as a joke). There is just so much that is superior.

 

 

but the total and utter disrespect for consoles on here is ridiculous

You are taking PCMR way too seriously . The term is a joke but there will always be fanboys. This is not disrespect, this is just fanboy war.

 

 

PCMR argues its superiority for the wrong reasons, and why console plebs find PCMR to be irritating and foolish. Argue with me, if you'd like, but I feel like a lot of the arguments are not actually as solid as people would like to think. The ignorance of the PCMasterRace matches the ignorance they claim these console plebs have.

I think I have implied by now that this statement is very wrong and just as ignorant and short-sighted as you make the PCMR out to be.

 

TL;DR

 

The term and implication of PCMR is mostly a harmless joke. The ones that take this and just hate and wail on console players are fanboys. The difference is we have a name (PCMR) and they don't which makes it seem worse.

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

For $350 you don't get anything decent, especially if you include peripherals which the XBOX doesn't have (any PC will need a mouse and keyboard).

However next to that Xbox you'll still have a (albeit more basic) PC for the stuff you normally do on a PC.  Probably a pre-built one.  Add the price of that to your $350 and we're talking about your real budget. 

After all, the gaming PC is more versatile than the console and can do the regular PC stuff too.

And then there's the cost of Xbox Live, which you need to add over the lifetime of the console.

 

G3258 is enough.  The reason why FC4 doesn't "support" dualcore is because Ubisoft decided not to let it.  I read earlier tonight here in the PC gaming section that there is a fix for that already.  (haven't tried it myself because I'm not interested in FC)

Ubisoft may be crippling their PC titles to make the consoles look better, but luckily the community can sort that out to some extent. So don't use Ubisoft titles for reference.

 

That brings me right to the next subject.  Mods, unofficial patches, improvements, new servers after the dev drops support and shut down the official ones, etc.  PC is the perfect platform for that.  With a console you're stuck with whatever the devs decide to give you.

 

 

2 ) and 3 ) ... valid points.  Building a PC is more work, but it's rewarding too.  And yes, you meet all kinds of people on all platforms. 

 

 

4 ) Do console players still do LAN events like that?  If PC gamers do, it's usually for tournaments and then the events are so massive that extensive network infrastructure will be needed anyways.  It ends up being an intranet really, and that's just a matter of plugging the ethernet cable into the port and maybe selecting the network in the control panel.

 

 

5 ) As said before, Ubisoft focusses on consoles due to the market share and cripples PC games on purpose (as per Sony's and Microsoft's demands). 

 

 

All in all, PCs and consoles both have their pros and cons.  Live and let live ... unless you're in combat, of course.  Then it's "live and frag that console peasant". 

[Speedyv]

The upfront cost of a PC is higher but a good CPU and other parts will last you longer than a console lifespan. All you would need to do is upgrade a part or two at a time.

Everything else is pretty much personal preference.

[Vivilacqua1]

It's not, that's personal preference. Better for accuracy in FPS games? Yes, but have you ever played a racing game with a KB/Mouse? Fucking nightmare, I tell you. A car's control must be fluid and gradual. A keyboard doesn't offer this range of control, just on/off.

Grid 2 works well with keyboard. (no mouse)  quick taps of left/right/forward/back or full on go