AMD GTX 970 with no SSD or AMD GTX 770 with an SSD or Intel 770 with no SSD

[SupremeSteak1]

The title pretty much says it all. I have to decide between getting a GTX 970 with an AMD, a GTX 770 with an SSD and AMD, or a GTX 770 with and Intel processer and no SSD. I have links to all three of the builds below it you want to see what else I am putting into it. Also note that I want to keep this at pretty much $1000 to play modern games on Ultra at 1080p. Thanks for everyones help!

 

GTX 970 with no SSD and AMD: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/deathtospiders2/saved/Fssv6h

 

GTX 770 with SSD and AMD: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/deathtospiders2/saved/J2Tj4D

 

GTX 770 with no SSD and Intel: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/deathtospiders2/saved/ZdMypg

[Octavialicious]

first one

[DeViLzzz]

**** the SSD right in the *****!  Get the 970 and have the best gaming experience and deal with some slower but acceptable load times.

[Aniallation]

The title pretty much says it all. I have to decide between getting a GTX 970 with an AMD, a GTX 770 with an SSD and AMD, or a GTX 770 with and Intel processer and no SSD. I have links to all three of the builds below it you want to see what else I am putting into it. Also note that I want to keep this at pretty much $1000 to play modern games on Ultra at 1080p. Thanks for everyones help!

An R9 290 is around the same price as a GTX 770 and trails not too far behind the 970. Good gaming performance and an SSD.  /thread

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($51.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($96.89 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.77 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card  ($249.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Phantom 240 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($149.00 @ B&H) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Intel 7260HMWDTX1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 

Case Fan: Gelid Solutions FN-SX12-10 37.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($7.99 @ Directron) 

Keyboard: AZIO L70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($24.88 @ Amazon) 

Total: $943.47

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-23 20:07 EST-0500

[thekeemo]

ssd's are a waste of money really

[Clyne]

Unlocked

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.47 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($240.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ NCIX US) 

Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($149.00 @ B&H) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Edimax EW-7822UAC 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 

Case Fan: NZXT FN-120RB 47.3 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($5.98 @ OutletPC) 

Keyboard: AZIO L70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($24.88 @ Amazon) 

Total: $987.26

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-23 20:05 EST-0500

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81-D3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($58.99 @ Directron) 

Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.47 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($240.00 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ NCIX US) 

Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($149.00 @ B&H) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Edimax EW-7822UAC 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 

Case Fan: NZXT FN-120RB 47.3 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($5.98 @ OutletPC) 

Keyboard: AZIO L70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($24.88 @ Amazon) 

Total: $928.26

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-23 20:06 EST-0500

[thekeemo]

i disagree my friend has one and its amazing how much better it feels to use the computer over a hard drive

I had one and sold it within a few days

[Fate]

I had one and sold it within a few days

Bullshit

[thekeemo]

Bullshit

nope I had a 480GB r7 SSD and sold it because I didnt feel that much of a diffrence if you want I can show you the ad

[Syntaxvgm]

ssd's are a waste of money really

While in interest of getting the maximum gaming performance out of your machine for the money, they are yes. But the 60$ (the price of a new game) it costs to make a 120GB ssd your os drive is really worth the upgrade for the general experience of your computer. . 

[PillowSmoke]

ssd's are a waste of money really

 

R U okay bud?

[Fate]

nope I had a 480GB r7 SSD and sold it because I didnt feel that much of a diffrence if you want I can show you the ad

Did you get a faulty SSD or something? I've never heard someone complain about how slow their SSD is compared to their hard drive. 

[thekeemo]

R U okay bud?

yes

[thekeemo]

Did you get a faulty SSD or something? I've never heard someone complain about how slow their SSD is compared to their hard drive. 

I wasnt complaining it was faster just not enough for me to really notice it

[Fate]

I wasnt complaining it was faster just not enough for me to really notice it

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[SupremeSteak1]

Wow. After looking at everyones responses, I have determined that the 970 is a better investment than the SSD. However, Bubblewhale's idea of getting a 290 instead really interested me as I hadn't looked much at the 290. Because of that, I think that I will get something along the lines of his unlocked build. Thanks for everyones help though, I will probably get a SSD some time later.

[thekeemo]

Are you trolling? 

"LTT's resident SSD hater"

"I think ssd's aren't worth it"

I can guarantee that im not (against coc) 

[TheSLSAMG]

I can guarantee that im not (against coc) 

Fun fact, it's also against the CoC to call out people for being trolls, whether they are or not. (Adding onto your post.)

[Syntaxvgm]

I wasnt complaining it was faster just not enough for me to really notice it

I can't even edit most videos on a hard drive unless I slap a bunch of them in raid 0. I can't even record 60 fps gameplay. thumbnails take forever to load in huge folders. My university internet is faster than my HDD can write during burt times if I use both Ethernet ports. Hell, even with one my laptop hard drive is slower. SSDs are literally 3-5 times faster depending on the ssd and hdd you are comparing against. How can you not notice the difference? If I load games on an ssd I can't even read the loadscreen tips!

[Fate]

I can guarantee that im not (against coc) 

You've used an SSD one time and you generalize that all SSD's aren't worth it. I suggest you try again because you're the first person I've seen who thinks SSD's aren't that have actually used one. 

I find it incredibly hard not to notice a difference between 10 second and 3 minute boot times. IDK maybe I'm just crazy. 

[Syntaxvgm]

Wow. After looking at everyones responses, I have determined that the 970 is a better investment than the SSD. However, Bubblewhale's idea of getting a 290 instead really interested me as I hadn't looked much at the 290. Because of that, I think that I will get something along the lines of his unlocked build. Thanks for everyones help though, I will probably get a SSD some time later.

I would go for that too. For now, best bang for buck. It's worth upgrading to an SSD, but that can be done later. Upgrading a gpu means getting rid of the old one where adding and SSD, you will still need your HDD either way. SSDs are worth it, but the nice thing is it's an upgrade you can add any time, so you don't really have to consider them for your initial build.

[TheSLSAMG]

Go GTX 970 and no SSD.

 

An SSD isn't crucial to have in your system. It's nice as a speed improvement in terms of OS start times and responsiveness, but a hard drive will do perfectly fine. People seem to overblow the importance of SSDs at this point in time, when they're just not that important.

 

I own an SSD. It's very nice to have, I will be the first to tell you. But, it's not the end of the world without one.

[thekeemo]

You've used an SSD one time and you generalize that all SSD's aren't worth it. I suggest you try again because you're the first person I've seen who thinks SSD's aren't that have actually used one. 

I find it incredibly hard not to notice a difference between 10 second and 3 minute boot times. IDK maybe I'm just crazy. 

I got 10seconds anyway (windows 8) noticed it mainly in adobe stuff but it was a 5-10 second diffrence

[Syntaxvgm]

Go GTX 970 and no SSD.

 

An SSD isn't crucial to have in your system. It's nice as a speed improvement in terms of OS start times and responsiveness, but a hard drive will do perfectly fine. People seem to overblow the importance of SSDs at this point in time, when they're just not that important.

SSDs are really important. Going back to an HDD after using an SSD is cringe worthy at first. But people should always go for a better card over a card and ssd, as it's easier and cheaper to add an SSD than upgrading a gpu, which would require you get rid of your old one.

[TheSLSAMG]

SSDs are really important. Going back to an HDD after using an SSD is cringe worthy at first. But people should always go for a better card over a card and ssd, as it's easier and cheaper to add an SSD than upgrading a gpu, which would require you get rid of your old one.

So almost every consumer desktop under $1000 doesn't have one why? And most laptops under $750?

 

Again, they're not as important as you're making them seem. You can live without one just fine and lose little in terms of gaming performance.