a good first build?

[tremor8]

In about 15 days im getting a new pc.Im new to pc building,honestly 10 days ago i didnt even know what it is.I went through a lot of research and got my first pc build.My budget is about 850 dollars and Im going to use the system for 1080p gaming and maybe stream a lil bit.Im looking for advices about the build,pc building in general smile.gif also i wanted to ask if i will need more 120mm fans for the build sory for the long text.thanks in advice.My build consist of :

cpu-fx-8320
mobo-gigabyte ga970-ud3p
gpu-msi gtx970
ram-kingston hyper x fury 8gb(2x4)
hdd-seagate barracuda 1TB 7200rpm
psu-FSP-forton S 550W 80+silver
corsair spec-01
additional fans:zalman cnps5x,arctic cooling f12 pwm

[Muffinmaddness]

can you put this on http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/

 

its easier for us to look at prices and things

 

also change the location, im in the uk so just change it in the top right hand box 

[Octavialicious]

use this power supply instead http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416778213&sr=8-1&keywords=500w
The one in your build seems fishy. Other then that, the build looks solid

[JeffreyEagan]

It's a good build, you could have gone with an intel setup with that amount of money.

[tremor8]

well i firstly wanted the cx series psu and then i got recommended this one and it has good reviews,what would be your recommendation for an intel build? and sure here is the site with my build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dxyGVn

[Lotus]

Good choice of MoBo, any less and it wouldn't be able to support overclocking 8core FX chips.

 

However, an Intel setup would be better at this price point. Where the FX chips have great multi-threaded performance, they have poor single-threaded performance. An Intel i5 platform could be had for around a similar price and it too has decent multi-threaded performance (although not as good as the FX), but great single-threaded performance, meaning there isn't a single task that it will struggle with. However the FX-8320 will struggle with any single-threaded workload.

[tremor8]

so would i have better performance just having an i5-4460/i5-4590 and r9 280x/290 or with this build as this is what i was trying to figure our the last 10 days  

[Lotus]

You can get an i5 4440 and an H81 MoBo for the same cost as your current CPU/Mobo, and still get the GTX 970, and it'll perform better.

 

If you want to spend a bit more, you can get a 4460 and h97 chipset MoBo for the additional features on the MoBo, but most won't use them. The H81 is a very cheap chipset with barebone features, but they're the features most people are likely to take advantage of.

 

Either way, an i5 build is best. Especially considering you're not overclocking, which is one of the big draws behind your FX CPU/Mobo setup.

[Lotus]

 

 

You can keep the GTX 970, just change the CPU for an i5-4460

You don't need an aftermarket cooler for stock clock speeds. It's just a waste.

[AfroLedgend]

@tremor8 only thing I could say is get a mobo with a 990 chipset. and your PSU is fine it's 80+ silver and that will be fine.

[tremor8]

im really thankful for your guys advices btw damn i didnt even know the 81 motherboards are an option for me.im really considering switching the build into the i5-4460 and the 81 board because im going to game 90% of the time on the rig and i heard the intel cpus perform much better at gaming.sooo what 81 mobos would u recommend?

[Lotus]

No, if you go H81, stick to i5-4440. If you go i5-4460, minimum h97.

 

This is the cheapest i5 CPU/MoBo setup possible right now, and it's great for gaming:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($168.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $196.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-23 17:04 EST-0500

 

Be warned: it will never support any dual GPU setups, it only has two slots for memory, it has very limited expansion slots, and it doesn't even have a USB 3.0 internal header. You'll need a cheap $2.50 part to hook up a 3.0 fronst USB ports to an internal USB 2.0 header, and be limited to 2.0 speeds. However it does have a PCI-E x16 slot which will not bottleneck any single-gpu setup, it has a second PCI-E 1x slot if you want to install a Wi-Fi card, it can fit a haswell i5 just fine, and it does have Sata3 6GB/S ports so you can run SSDs on it just fine. It's just not compatible with a haswell refresh CPU (i5-4460 or 4590) without a bios update, and you need a working CPU to do a bios update so you risk being in a catch-22 unless you stick to an i5-4440 CPU or other original haswell CPUs.

 

If you want a setup that supports crossfire and a haswell refresh CPU, you're stuck with H97 and Z97 chipsets, and this is the cheapest option that'll do SLI (since you're using NVidia) and a haswell refresh CPU:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($184.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $293.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-23 17:10 EST-0500

 

This won't actually perform better than the first option. I mean, it is a 100mhz faster CPU, but that's not really that significant. You're paying extra cash here for a larger motherboard featureset that will largely go unused. You can run dual GPU setups with this, and a whole host of other features you aren't likely to use. If you don't need them, the first option is sufficient. However if you do need them, the first option doesn't support the features this one does.

[Guest]

If you go with an R9 290 you can squeeze an i5 4690K in. You can always add an aftermarket cooler later on if you don't want to go over budget. Or you could go with a cheaper case such as the Spec-01 and put one in from the off.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($208.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.78 @ OutletPC) 

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($72.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($264.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: BitFenix Ronin ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 

Total: $846.72

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-23 17:16 EST-0500

[AfroLedgend]

Yeah, I kept it in there just because he chose it. He can remove it if he wants to.

$100 more for a CPU he wouldn't be able to OC compared to his AMD which will OC very well and perform better in most situations compared to that 4460 at stock.

[tremor8]

uff this is getting confusing i think i got both of the builds budgeted for me now which one will be more future-proof and better for gaming? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Lz2pFT (i5) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dxyGVn(fx-8320)

[Stylo]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($87.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.96 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.77 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $793.66

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-23 18:29 EST-0500

[Guest]

uff this is getting confusing i think i got both of the builds budgeted for me now which one will be more future-proof and better for gaming? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Lz2pFT (i5) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dxyGVn(fx-8320)

My spec above is the best balanced build as you get an unlocked cpu and a very good gpu which will easily cope with 1080p. If you swap the case for the Corsair 200R then you can add the Coolermaster Hyper Evo 212 cooler.

[AfroLedgend]

uff this is getting confusing i think i got both of the builds budgeted for me now which one will be more future-proof and better for gaming? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Lz2pFT (i5) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dxyGVn(fx-8320)

The Intel build will serve you better as you can upgrade to a K series Haswell/Refresh CPU later if you want the rest is all pretty good. Hope you enjoy.

[Guest]

The Intel build will serve you better as you can upgrade to a K series Haswell/Refresh CPU later if you want the rest is all pretty good. Hope you enjoy.

He can get a 'k' series from the off if He goes with a R9 290 gpu instead of the GTX 970.

[CommandMan7]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($87.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.96 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.77 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $793.66

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-23 18:29 EST-0500

 

This is what I would get, no reason you can't get an SSD for that price point. 

[tremor8]

is anyone still here? since i talked with my dad today and my budget incresed a bit i edited the build,i decided i dont want to overclock.what about this build.[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k7xDhM) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k7xDhM/by_merchant/)

 

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590) | $193.98 @ OutletPC 

**Motherboard** | [Asus H97-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-h97plus) | $101.24 @ Amazon 

**Memory** | [Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx318c10frk28) | $82.99 @ Amazon 

**Storage** | [seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | $48.49 @ OutletPC 

**Video Card** | [MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx970gaming4g) | $349.99 @ NCIX US 

**Case** | [Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011051ww) | $55.99 @ Amazon 

**Power Supply** | [EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr) | $32.99 @ NCIX US 

 | | **Total**

 | Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $865.67

 | Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 14:12 EST-0500 |

[Lotus]

That built can't overclock. To overclock, you need 3 things: a K series CPU, a Z chipset motherboard, and an aftermarket CPU cooler. That's still a good build, but if you want to overclock you're going to have to make some tradeoffs to get all of those components:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($208.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($31.92 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Zeus Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($269.69 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $848.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 14:47 EST-0500

 

If you want the GTX 970, you're going to have to go with a locked i5. If you want an overclocking CPU setup, the best GPU you can do is an R9 290. This rig here has Crossfire support and a sufficient PSU to throw in a second one when you want, but it starts with a worse GPU. You'll just have to decide which tradeoff you want to make. Your build is perfectly fine for not overclocking though, although I don't necessarilly agree with your MoBo and Case choice, but it's your money.

[Stylo]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($208.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($26.92 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($88.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($56.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.96 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.49 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $865.31

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 15:36 EST-0500

[tremor8]

thanks for still helping out.I know what i need for overclocking,but i dont feel like im ready for it and i dont want to damage my pc.i have a few questions then .What h97 mobo would you recommend? Im thinking about the asrock pro4 or the fatality performance.

is this psu good enough for the build? and since the case you recommended isnt selling in my country yet (czech rep.) i cant get it what others would you recommend.I heard great things about the spec series.

[Lotus]

Your PSU is fine (The EVGA 500B). As for the MoBo, I recommend the cheapest H97 from a company you trust (NOT ECS or Biostar) that has the features you want. In your case, really any H97 board with 4 DIMMs would be sufficient if you want the room for more memory later. You don't need to fall for gimmicky names like "gaming" or "fatality."