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Hey everyone, I'm helping my friend build a budget pc for gaming. He sticks with 1080p gaming and is a blizzard fan. Most of his gaming would be done on WoW. I'm not a huge AMD person and was wondering how well this build would hold up in wow (high or ultra settings?) I'm trying to stick as close to 600 as I can, A little higher wouldnt be to much. If you have any other recommendations, they'd be much appreciated.

 

cpu - amd 760k

gpu - asus directcu II r9 280

ram - 8gb 1600

hdd - seagate barracuda 1tb 7200

ssd - kingston v300 120gb

 

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Hey everyone, I'm helping my friend build a budget pc for gaming. He sticks with 1080p gaming and is a blizzard fan. Most of his gaming would be done on WoW. I'm not a huge AMD person and was wondering how well this build would hold up in wow (high or ultra settings?) I'm trying to stick as close to 600 as I can, A little higher wouldnt be to much. If you have any other recommendations, they'd be much appreciated.

 

cpu - amd 760k

gpu - asus directcu II r9 280

ram - 8gb 1600

hdd - seagate barracuda 1tb 7200

ssd - kingston v300 120gb

That cpu will be a huge bottleneck, Can you give me your location? so we can make you a better build?





 
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Most of Blizzards games are more heavy on the CPU than the GPU.

i would rather build this, This have Everything exept a OS.

The 6300 is about 30% more powerful than the 760k.

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $599.87
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Hey everyone, I'm helping my friend build a budget pc for gaming. He sticks with 1080p gaming and is a blizzard fan. Most of his gaming would be done on WoW. I'm not a huge AMD person and was wondering how well this build would hold up in wow (high or ultra settings?) I'm trying to stick as close to 600 as I can, A little higher wouldnt be to much. If you have any other recommendations, they'd be much appreciated.

 

cpu - amd 760k

gpu - asus directcu II r9 280

ram - 8gb 1600

hdd - seagate barracuda 1tb 7200

ssd - kingston v300 120gb

 

I would check the WoW forums and specifically look for threads about performance in Ashran/25 man raids because those are going to the the CPU bound scenarios. Ashran is their new large "open world" battleground where tons of people can be on screen.

 

AMD WAS pretty mediocre in WoW, but the new expansion put some stuff on the GPU. The CPU might be fine now. I know in beta my 4770k breezed through hundreds of players in Ashran and it would have not done nearly as well in the previous expansion.

 

Now if he wants to play Guild Wars 2 or Wild Star? Do not go AMD on the CPU. Do not even go Intel non K on the CPU. Go Intel I5 K. WoW? Might be ok now. MMO's have crappy CPU optimization, and WoW might actually be one of the best now (which is sad). 

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Most of Blizzards games are more heavy on the CPU than the GPU.

i would rather build this, This have Everything exept a OS.

The 6300 is about 30% more powerful than the 760k.

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($79.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($84.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $599.87

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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WOW! (pun intended) There are some really nice prices there!  Get an aftermarket HSF and you get even more bang for your buck by overclocking that AMD FX 6300.

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This is better.

(But it's assuming you already have Windows)

 
CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($148.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-G1.Sniper A88X ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($76.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk ReadyCache 32GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Micro Center) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 3500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.99 @ Directron) 
Total: $566.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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That cpu will be a huge bottleneck, Can you give me your location? so we can make you a better build?

It's far from a huge bottleneck. The 760k is capable

 

I will still go I3 though

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It's far from a huge bottleneck. The 760k is capable

 

I will still go I3 though

It will be fine for WOW but not that gpu.





 
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It will be fine for WOW but not that gpu.

With the 7870 (R9 270) the difference is mostly barely mentionable. It's not until he reaches the 780 that the 750K shows that it lacks vs an I5

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This is why you should not get an FX CPU for ANY scenario other than rendering on a budget http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/286142-fx-8350-r9-290-psu-requirements/?p=3892901 | http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/266481-an-issue-with-people-bashing-the-fx-cpus/?p=3620861

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With the 7870 (R9 270) the difference is mostly barely mentionable. 

I know but it still bottlenecks been there done that low end amd chip with higher end gpu especially in games like wow and gw2 you are better of with an i3





 
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What the eff are you guys doing recommending him AMD CPUs for WoW?

 

This game is extremely dependent on STRONG cores, not many weak ones.  Those of you recommending FX processors deserve to be reprimanded.

 

A Pentium AE will outperform any of the options.  Buy an i3 with a $600 budget.  Heck, go i5 if he is willing to go over.

 

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Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($141.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $623.90
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My boyfriend runs WoW on a 6 yearold Phenom 9850, and it runs without any issues at all. 

Because a Phenom has strong single core performance.  FX processors are terrible for WoW

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What the eff are you guys doing recommending him AMD CPUs for WoW?

 

^^ Many times this. WoW has always had problems with AMD processors. Yes, they "run fine," but they underperform catastrophically compared to where they should line up based on most games. It's probably Blizzard's fault rather than AMD's, but it's been happening for years regardless. This even goes back to the Phenom days (source, from the Cataclysm launch).

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-overclocking-performance,3849-10.html

WoW is one place where an overclocked G3258 will really shine. Hell, even the stock G3258 was beating the overclocked 750K in the benchmark above. And when overclocked, it actually matches their Core i5.

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My boyfriend runs WoW on a 6 yearold Phenom 9850, and it runs without any issues at all. 

It would depend what you do in game. If you just quest and do 2v2 arena then you're probably gonna be ok on an AMD but if you take it into a raid you'll have a hard time at 10fps.

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It would depend what you do in game. If you just quest and do 2v2 arena then you're probably gonna be ok on an AMD but if you take it into a raid you'll have a hard time at 10fps.

He used to be a very heavy WoW player, to the point he told me to reinstall windows on his PC while he was at work; and never let him install WoW again. I never heard him complain about frame drops while playing it, and never saw any myself when I would watch him play it. He has used it on my pc also, and again had no issues with it. It was one of the first games he tried on my pc.

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I'd go with the i3/G3258 and you'd have twice as much fps in 40vs40 bg's/25m raids etc.

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What the eff are you guys doing recommending him AMD CPUs for WoW?

This game is extremely dependent on STRONG cores, not many weak ones. Those of you recommending FX processors deserve to be reprimanded.

A Pentium AE will outperform any of the options. Buy an i3 with a $600 budget. Heck, go i5 if he is willing to go over.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gYG8zy

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gYG8zy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($45.98 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Team Zeus Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($141.00 @ Newegg)

Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $623.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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I use to not believe this. But after building a amd and intel system on pcpartpicker they are relatively the same price. So it really depends on what the person wants to do. Intel overall. Unless your a content creates/editor and etc then go amd

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He used to be a very heavy WoW player, to the point he told me to reinstall windows on his PC while he was at work; and never let him install WoW again. I never heard him complain about frame drops while playing it, and never saw any myself when I would watch him play it. He has used it on my pc also, and again had no issues with it. It was one of the first games he tried on my pc.

Oh, you're the same crazy nut who plays Skyrim with a FX4300 and a 780 who ran around Whiterun trying to prove to me that there are no framedrops or low FPS.

 

Sorry to break it to you, but FX processors don't run as good as you think they do.

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This is better.

(But it's assuming you already have Windows)

 
CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($148.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-G1.Sniper A88X ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($76.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk ReadyCache 32GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Micro Center) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 3500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.99 @ Directron) 
Total: $566.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Nope, The a10-7850k is about as powerful as the athlon 860k which is about 10% more powerful than the athlon 760k.

The a10-7850 has about as much graphical performance as a R7 250 with 8gb of 2400Mhz RAM.

The system he had planned has Much more graphical horsepower which will give a higher peak FPS

But the lowest fps would only be 10% lower which is neglectable when the framerate is at 34-40 fps at its lowest.

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Oh, you're the same crazy nut who plays Skyrim with a FX4300 and a 780 who ran around Whiterun trying to prove to me that there are no framedrops or low FPS.

 

Sorry to break it to you, but FX processors don't run as good as you think they do.

And there not as bad as you think they are. I have not once said they are better than in i5 or i7, but they are stronger than you are saying on this forum. Not even said they are better in single threaded applications. And yes I do play Skyrim with it, I showed you what you wanted to see; which was me walking around a town in Skyrim. Which you was adamant would be unplayable in that scenario.

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And there not as bad as you think they are. I have not once said they are better than in i5 or i7, but they are stronger than you are saying on this forum. Not even said they are better in single threaded applications. And yes I do play Skyrim with it, I showed you what you wanted to see; which was me walking around a town in Skyrim. Which you was adamant would be unplayable in that scenario.

Go to a populated town, not Whiterun where there is 1 person every one hundred feet.  Go fight a dragon, go do something intensive.

 

 

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Skyrim should run better than WoW.  But to say that WoW runs just fine on an FX is lunacy.  I'm considering reporting everyone who recommended this guy an AMD processor for WoW because it can be interpreted as breaking the CoC.

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He used to be a very heavy WoW player, to the point he told me to reinstall windows on his PC while he was at work; and never let him install WoW again. I never heard him complain about frame drops while playing it, and never saw any myself when I would watch him play it. He has used it on my pc also, and again had no issues with it. It was one of the first games he tried on my pc.

 

I think you're misunderstanding the nature of the issue. It's a matter of cost versus performance. A cheaper product performs equally, and a faster product costs the same. I'm aware the game "runs" on AMD hardware without apparent issue until you start comparing them to other products.

 

To be clear, this isn't an "Intel is better than AMD!!111" thing. I'm aware that AMD's current lineup performs roughly where they should for their prices in virtually every other game. But this thread is about WoW, and for years, World of Warcraft has had serious and well-documented problems with AMD processors. Someone buying a processor for WoW would do a lot better for their money with literally any Intel product.

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Go to a populated town, not Whiterun where there is 1 person every one hundred feet.  Go fight a dragon, go do something intensive.

 

Skyrim should run better than WoW.  But to say that WoW runs just fine on an FX is lunacy.

I have seen my boyfriend play wow on my pc plenty of times, and it runs perfectly fine. And I have played Skyrim all the way through, including the side quests. Not once did the FPS drop in the ways you are adamant it will. 

 

 

 I'm considering reporting everyone who recommended this guy an AMD processor for WoW because it can be interpreted as breaking the CoC.

Now you are just been silly, but go ahead and report away. 

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