Modern Vs Classic [Yes, another gun thread]

[Jack.EXE]

I do not want your opinions on Pro gun or anti-gun, I just want your views on classic Vs modern stylings & tech of weapons.

 

They really are an amazing tool, and can be a work of art.

 

I love guns like Russia's Vepr here, a mix of classic character with a spice of modern tech, truly before it's time.

 

So, What's your favourites?

[Osmium]

The anything made by or inspired by Mikhail Kalashnikov's designs I love. The Soviets in the 20th century were absolutely brilliant in terms of technology. Although in terms of aesthetics I do like the older look of the AK-74s/47s rather than the newer variants.

[FloRolf]

M4A1-S. Good Spray pattern and silencer. Gives me the most headshots.

[Laputacake]

Gonna have to say classic with a few exceptions like the MP7, UMP-45, SCAR-H, ACE 52 CQB and the SG 553

[legopc]

The anything made by or inspired by Mikhail Kalashnikov's designs I love. The Soviets in the 20th century were absolutely brilliant in terms of technology. Although in terms of aesthetics I do like the older look of the AK-74s/47s rather than the newer variants.

but the germans had superior tanks in the second world war 

[brownninja97]

This is on my profile

 

Favourite sniper rifle: Barrett M107

Favourite assault rifle: SA80

Favourite pistol:M9

Favourite sub-machine gun: PPsh-41

Favourite light-machine gun: M240b

 

I mostly like modern guns but some older weapons are nice, very used a gun so i have to rely on pictures and appearances

 

Some other favourites

 

M110

fg42

XM8 s

M99

 

 

mosin nagant

 

[brownninja97]

but the germans had superior tanks in the second world war 

the panzer tigers and stugs were monsters. You sure are right there.

[AlwaysFSX]

Classics, of course.

[Toddwjp]

i like classic designs but with modern materials

[Matimo]

but the germans had superior tanks in the second world war 

The Germans barely made tanks: the British were the first to make and use them! The Germans mostly fixed up and used captured British tanks and only utilised very few of their own in the last few months of WW1

[GhostWindGamer]

M4A1-S. Good Spray pattern and silencer. Gives me the most headshots.

SCAR 20 FTW  

[brownninja97]

The anything made by or inspired by Mikhail Kalashnikov's designs I love. The Soviets in the 20th century were absolutely brilliant in terms of technology. Although in terms of aesthetics I do like the older look of the AK-74s/47s rather than the newer variants.

Well the soviets were in deep shit with the aircraft side of things, their lagg series was made of wood, stukas went to town on them, fw190s and bf109s followed suit, then there is the do 217 which was better then the il2, more guns, faster, didnt have drunk pilots. Im not too sure after the war but germany was way ahead of the game when it came to air craft, honestly a year later they would of finished the development of a wing bomber, faster then any other bomber it would of had the ability to drop 3000kg of hell in a flash, luckily it never did take flight, because if it did then that bomber alone would of turned the tides(probably not, sure the americans would have thrown a few more "little boys" at the axis had they continued to fight.

[Toddwjp]

Well the soviets were in deep shit with the aircraft side of things, their lagg series was made of wood, stukas went to town on them, fw190s and bf109s followed suit, then there is the do 217 which was better then the il2, more guns, faster, didnt have drunk pilots. Im not too sure after the war but germany was way ahead of the game when it came to air craft, honestly a year later they would of finished the development of a wing bomber, faster then any other bomber it would of had the ability to drop 3000kg of hell in a flash, luckily it never did take flight, because if it did then that bomber alone would of turned the tides(probably not, sure the americans would have thrown a few more "little boys" at the axis had they continued to fight.

soviet planes were pretty bad, they had some neat ideas but design doctrine ruined most of it

[Thecrazyswede]

Definetly bigger fan of older design of weapons, cars and general everything.

 

everything was built to last back then. ( definetly biased as i own a car from 1956 and drive it daily during the summer )

 

doesnt matter where you look, Colt, AK, HK, FN, CETME, M1 Garand,ect,ect

 

they are all built to outlast its users.

[rmac52]

One of my favorite gun designs of all time is the Colt 1862 Navy Revolver.

 

[Jack.EXE]

The US still uses M14s for desert warfare, It's hard to break such a gun.

[brownninja97]

soviet planes were pretty bad, they had some neat ideas but design doctrine ruined most of it

i believe the la 5(f & fn), la 7 and la 9 were great, and yeah thats about it i think.

 

Then the list for the british, americans, germans, austrians, french, italians and japanese(only kinder, japan has a few weird ones as well) are way better and longer.

[Norman_the_Owl]

Anything from the 20th century is pretty good with me.

 

DAT FG42 DOH

[legopc]

@Matimo I'm talking about ww2 i know nothing about ww1

[Toddwjp]

i believe the la 5(f & fn), la 7 and la 9 were great, and yeah thats about it i think.

 

Then the list for the british, americans, germans, austrians, french, italians and japanese(only kinder, japan has a few weird ones as well) are way better and longer.

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they were still fortunately/unfortunately depending on how you view the soviets in ww2, gimped by there design doctrine. of mass mass production and simple controls etc

[Syntaxvgm]

How modern are we talking? 

:wub:

[techswede]

Classics. Hands down 

 

Muskets and flintlock pistols in particular

[cae]

Styling - I really like more classical firearms, wood and metal. They have a certain aesthetic appeal I enjoy.

 

Tech - As far as usability and ergonomics are concerned, I think that lends itself well to synthetic polymers and the modern designs.

 

So I like both for different reasons.

[Osmium]

Well the soviets were in deep shit with the aircraft side of things, their lagg series was made of wood, stukas went to town on them, fw190s and bf109s followed suit, then there is the do 217 which was better then the il2, more guns, faster, didnt have drunk pilots. Im not too sure after the war but germany was way ahead of the game when it came to air craft, honestly a year later they would of finished the development of a wing bomber, faster then any other bomber it would of had the ability to drop 3000kg of hell in a flash, luckily it never did take flight, because if it did then that bomber alone would of turned the tides(probably not, sure the americans would have thrown a few more "little boys" at the axis had they continued to fight.

 

I really liked the Soviet Space Program. But in reality I feel like you could look at almost all branches of soviet tech and come to a similar conclusion. Theirs was set up so different R&D teams competed with each other within the program leading to each team trying to outsmart the other. This turned out to be extremely effective since after the cold war when the Americans and the Soviets finally began sharing technology, the Americans thought it was impossible their engines could be so fuel efficient. During WWII Germany was seen as the tech giants but afterwards I feel like the Soviets quietly filled the void without anyone else really noticing

[Osmium]

Modern = faster, lighter, more powerful, more efficient, easier to handle.

 

That is somewhat wrong.

 

Modern = Lighter, faster, and easier to handle. People realized it doesn't take a lot to kill someone.

 

However classic usually was more powerful, more reliable (I am looking at you AR-15), and more cost effective(less automatics). 

 

The design philosophy has changed in recent times (for the better mostly) but the classics still do their jobs really.