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bottle neck yo

under most circumstance no

^This pretty much

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The FX-6300? yes in some games, but not all

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FX-8320 @4.6ghz bottlenecked my GTX 780 in many games at 1080p hence i upgraded to intel...so take what you wan't but yes any AMD CPU bottleneck GPU's that are faster than R9 280 or GTX 760.

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will the 6300 bottle neck 290?

It really depends what game and if you're overclocked or not. With a moderate overclock most games that use 3 or more cores will be okay, but games that only use one or two cores will be bottlenecked

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will the 6300 bottle neck 290?

It might in newer, more CPU intensive games, but for the most part, no.

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You better go with Intel.

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You better go with Intel.

budget... but if you can fit a intel into a 500 dollar build with 290 ill take it

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I'm not sure but the either my MOBO or FX8350@4.6 is bottlenecking my duel 290s something terrible.

 

give this a look, ignore specs posted, refer to my profile information http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/198125-playing-bf4-wtf-is-bottlenecking/#entry2686493

 

Edit: started the post on mobile but now i'm on desktop so here's a little better of an explanation:

 

I'm not convinced that it should be bottlenecking, but it is. even with one card. i have tried everything from re-installing the OS entirely, to replacing parts. i have replaced absolutely everything in my system accept the MOBO & CPU, so one or the other is bottlenecking. if i were you i would get something with a little more power, because if my 8350 can't run it, i'm certain your 6300 can't.

 

so my suggestion is get something with more power, don't risk it.

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G3258

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G3258

will bottle neck, unless you have something proving me wrong

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you asked for 500$ build

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you asked for 500$ build

but wont the g3258 bottle neck 290

so if maybe the 6300 wont bottle neck 290, i can move some things around to make it 500

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yes but you can't do better at that price range

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it will bottleneck but i doubt it will be such a heavy bottleneck that you have to throw away the system, prolly 70% gpu usage. from what i see with more powerful cpus paired with the 290, the 290 can do about 80 fps range in bf4 while this combo is doing 60 fps range so yeah here you go for an idea

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I'm not sure but the either my MOBO or FX8350@4.6 is bottlenecking my duel 290s something terrible.

 

give this a look, ignore specs posted, refer to my profile information http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/198125-playing-bf4-wtf-is-bottlenecking/#entry2686493

 

Edit: started the post on mobile but now i'm on desktop so here's a little better of an explanation:

 

I'm not convinced that it should be bottlenecking, but it is. even with one card. i have tried everything from re-installing the OS entirely, to replacing parts. i have replaced absolutely everything in my system accept the MOBO & CPU, so one or the other is bottlenecking. if i were you i would get something with a little more power, because if my 8350 can't run it, i'm certain your 6300 can't.

 

so my suggestion is get something with more power, don't risk it.

 

Your PSU isnt strong enough to run that setup to begin with.

 

OCed 8350 is 300 watts

Single R9 290 is 300-350 watts.

 

Now add another 290. 

 

Also your PSU is only rated for 64As on the 12 volt rail which is only 768watts. Not 850. You can get 850 watts if you pull 13.29 volts.

 

Even if it does do 850 watts you are still short.

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will the 6300 bottle neck 290?

My fx8320 at 4ghz bottlenecks my r9 290 in pretty much every game. Hence why I have an i5 4670k in the mail. I regret going amd initially shouldnt have been a cheapskate.

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Your PSU isnt strong enough to run that setup to begin with.

 

OCed 8350 is 300 watts

Single R9 290 is 300-350 watts.

 

Now add another 290. 

 

Also your PSU is only rated for 64As on the 12 volt rail which is only 768watts. Not 850. You can get 850 watts if you pull 13.29 volts.

 

Even if it does do 850 watts you are still short.

 

850W will be totaly fine.

 

But FX6300 will offcourse bottleneck a 290 crossfire.

I would say stay with a single card and grab an i5-4690K with Z97 board.

And if thats too expensive, then you can allways grab a locked i5-4590 or what not with a H97 board.

 

An i5-4690K will also bottleneck dual 290´s in cpu + gpu demending gaming scenario´s.

So i would say, just stay at one single strong card.

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My fx8320 at 4ghz bottlenecks my r9 290 in pretty much every game. Hence why I have an i5 4670k in the mail. I regret going amd initially shouldnt have been a cheapskate.

 

This is why I really don't like people saying "AMD is good value". It's not, you're not making a well balanced decision, you're just going "cheap" (because it's really not taht much cheaper) and pay for it sooner or later. Sorry you had to find out the 'hard way'.

 

Also, why the stark contrast from intel products being either i5 or pentium. There is still the i3....which doesn't really suffer in multithreaded benchmarks, even with sli770;

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1281?vs=1197 (below are the 2x770 benchmarks)

 

But gets you that performance when games are heavily singlethreaded and has a much more solid min. fps. Imho a better balanced CPU. (it's also much more quiet on the stockfan, so you can skip the aftermarket cooler)

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i agree...if the core i5-4460 is too much money even though it can be found under 180$ ATM there is also the core i3-4150 that is worth looking at it can be found at 109$ online ATM and it's way way better than a pentium indeed.

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so sad  after reading all these bottle necking stuff about amd cpu paired with highend gpu, never have a amd system but man.
AMD need to do something in CPU or GPU

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depending on games, AMD CPUs can bottleneck graphics card. especially those cpu intensive ones. if your games are not, u might even get away with it and play at 4k with two 970s or 290s.

don't feel bad about picking amd, there are times when we are tied by money.

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don't feel bad about picking amd, there are times when we are tied by money.

 

Same price(or sometimes less, considering cooling): The i3-4130 is a better choice when compared to the 6300, the i5-4460 is a better choice when compared to the 8320/8350. the G3258 is a better choice when compared to the 860K (overclocking the G3258 is so easy). They all have the same multithreading performance on less cores, which meets the rule of thumb; IPC>cores, for gaming.

 

So how should you not "feel bad" if those are the facts? Please, explain me why it is not opting for a sub-optimal choice. I don't care if it "runs fine", i'm talking objectively comparing product A and B here and selecting the best option.

 

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