bulding a pc for my parents

[sigge300]

so i am tired of fixing my parents computer and want to build them a new one

 

 

1. Budget & Location
as low as possible. location Norway
2. Aim
ripping storing loads of music/audio books. surfing the interwebs playing browser games
3. Monitors
we want a 23" 1080 screen
4. Peripherals
we got keyboard and mouse, but we want to switch to a mouse whit back and forwards buttons
5. Why are you upgrading?
the one we have for this use is starting to get really slow and me as the family tech support is tired of fixing it...

 

 

okey amd or intel no mater preferably integrated graph

[hawaiims]

so i am tired of fixing my parents computer and want to build them a new one

It might not be a fun thing to hear, but for a very low budget it's generally much better to buy a prebuilt. You'll get a better value for the money than building it yourself at a low price range. 

[sigge300]

It might not be a fun thing to hear, but for a very low budget it's generally much better to buy a prebuilt. You'll get a better value for the money than building it yourself at a low price range. 

 

 

but they are shit and breaks way to fast to my experience

[sigge300]

so i been thinking of the parts and this is what i come up whit the power supply  and dvd rom is something i allready have from a older build

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-3240 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($114.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus P8H61-M LE/CSM R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard  ($57.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($44.40 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.50 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian-Li PC-A05FNB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer  ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Total: $528.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-30 19:46 EDT-0400

 

are there any issues some one see ?

[Rebelattack]

Why an expensive Lian Li case if it is just for regular use by family? it is nearly the price of the CPU plus the fact that either you waste less money on it or use the saved money on a something else.

[oldaccount117]

why not buy a laptop. I find it better for parents when its all( monitor, tower, kb,etc) in one part(laptop)

[Demons Wrath]

1. Budget & Location

as low as possible. location Norway

2. Aim

ripping storing loads of music/audio books. surfing the interwebs playing browser games

3. Monitors

we want a 23" 1080 screen

4. Peripherals

we got keyboard and mouse, but we want to switch to a mouse whit back and forwards buttons

5. Why are you upgrading?

the one we have for this use is starting to get really slow and me as the family tech support is tired of fixing it...

 

Praise be tomshardware!

Norway

Komplett

Dustin Home

Advance.no

Cdon.no

MPX.no <--- Best Buy / Fry's type store for Norway, sells PC parts

Tofte Elektriske

 

Get something like AMD A10-7700k. For the mobo choose something with a lot of SATA ports for mass storage, something like the Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3H. Choose a CPU cooler for cool and quiet operation (the 7700k is also overclockable, so you can play with it too.), nothing too fancy like the Zalman CNPS10X Optima, the NZXT Respire T40, Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, Deepcool Gammaxx 300/400. Get whatever happens to be cheapest.

 

For the RAM, 4GB will probably be more than enough, although the internal GPU relies on the system RAM for it's video output, so choose whatever is both high speed and cheap, go 8gb if it proves to be an acceptable price. For an SSD for fast boot and some applications choose something good and cheap like the Crucial MX100 or M500, 120gb to 256gb should be great. For mass storage HDD's, Seagate Barracudas or WD Blues/Blacks, get the capacity you want.

 

For a case something both with good airflow and quiet. The Zalman Z3 Plus is a good choice, Cooler Master N400 is cheap and cheerful, Corsair 200r is also cheap and cheerful. Make sure to check how many fans the case comes with and how many more mounts there are, adding in a few extra fans and controlling them with PWM headers is a great way of keeping temps down and airflow reasonable. Keeps it nice and quiet. For a PSU, CX430m or something else that's low power and low cost, but also comes from a reputable brand. Antec, be quiet!, Cooler Master, Corsair, Enermax, EVGA, Fractal Design, FSP, NZXT, OCZ, Seasonic, Silverstone, Super Flower, Thermaltake, XFX and Zalman are all quite reputable.

 

Here's a rough price on the sort of thing you can expect to find, American prices but you can convert it into Norwegian Kr to get a good idea of the final cost:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($134.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X OPTIMA CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3H ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($67.49 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($70.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($25.00 @ Newegg) 

Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($3.56 @ NCIX US) 

Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($3.56 @ NCIX US) 

Case Fan: Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 74.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($3.56 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $559.08

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-30 22:29 EDT-0400

[wjm22400]

so i am tired of fixing my parents computer and want to build them a new one

 

 

1. Budget & Location

as low as possible. location Norway

2. Aim

ripping storing loads of music/audio books. surfing the interwebs playing browser games

3. Monitors

we want a 23" 1080 screen

4. Peripherals

we got keyboard and mouse, but we want to switch to a mouse whit back and forwards buttons

5. Why are you upgrading?

the one we have for this use is starting to get really slow and me as the family tech support is tired of fixing it...

 

 

okey amd or intel no mater preferably integrated graph

Do you have a certain opinion for intell or amd otherwise i here is a good base list for pretty cheap

 

Here is one that does low end gaming on low settings... so it would be able to handle browser games and has tons of room 

 

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r9sRqs) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r9sRqs/by_merchant/)

 

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad860kxbjabox) | $89.99 @ Newegg 

**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1) | $29.98 @ OutletPC 

**Motherboard** | [ASRock FM2A88M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fm2a88mhd) | $54.49 @ Newegg 

**Memory** | [Apotop 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/apotop-memory-u3a4gx216c9bb) | $72.99 @ Newegg 

**Storage** | [Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hua721010kla330) | $43.00 @ Amazon 

**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp43751kr) | $114.99 @ Newegg 

**Case** | [Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1) | $39.99 @ Newegg 

**Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr) | $49.99 @ Newegg 

**Monitor** | [AOC i2369V 60Hz 23.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-i2369v) | $139.99 @ Amazon 

 | | **Total**

 | Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $627.41

 | Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-30 22:36 EDT-0400 |

[sigge300]

Why an expensive Lian Li case if it is just for regular use by family? it is nearly the price of the CPU plus the fact that either you waste less money on it or use the saved money on a something else.

Looks it looks better then a bunch other cheap case

[brob]

From https://www.komplett.no

 

 

[Sauron]

It might not be a fun thing to hear, but for a very low budget it's generally much better to buy a prebuilt. You'll get a better value for the money than building it yourself at a low price range. 

 

No, not really. You can get better than a prebuilt in whatever price range.

 

@sigge300 I'll make you a build soon

[hawaiims]

No, not really. You can get better than a prebuilt in whatever price range.

 

@sigge300 I'll make you a build soon

maybe if you go around doing illegal crap like pirating windows. Otherwise hell no, for a cheap build especially in a place like norway where components are expensive it would be nearly impossible to have a cheaper DIY pc than a prebuilt. 

[Sauron]

maybe if you go around doing illegal crap like pirating windows. Otherwise hell no, for a cheap build especially in a place like norway where components are expensive it would be nearly impossible to have a cheaper DIY pc than a prebuilt. 

 

Linux is not illegal and it's free... not to mention lighter, more stable and more open than windows... idk about Norway, but where I live it makes next to no sense to buy a prebuilt.

[hawaiims]

Linux is not illegal and it's free... not to mention lighter, more stable and more open than windows... idk about Norway, but where I live it makes next to no sense to buy a prebuilt.

yeah, let's expect his parents to use ubuntu...

 

If his parents are already having tons of problems and if they're like most parents, chances are windows is already hard enough for them to use and the last thing the OP wants is to do tech support because they don't understand how to use even the simplest distros such as ubuntu

[Sauron]

@sigge300 here's my suggestion:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M8b499 it mounts an ssd (which is a huge game changer for this kind of build) and still offers decent quality componentry.

 

You could probably spend even less, but I don't recommend sparing further as it would mean compromising stability and reliability of the system.

[Sauron]

yeah, let's expect his parents to use ubuntu...

 

If his parents are already having tons of problems and if they're like most parents, chances are windows is already hard enough for them to use and the last thing the OP wants is to do tech support because they don't understand how to use even the simplest distros such as ubuntu

 

ubuntu is easier to use than windows in a lot of scenarios. It's not like they have to install from command line or anything. Not tech-savvy doesn't mean stupid. I bet it would only take them a couple of days to learn how to do what they need and they'd be happy to save one third of the price of their pc just by adapting to a slightly different system.

 

-edit-

 

for example my mother, which is as ignorant about pcs as they get, had no problems using ubuntu for a full month while her regular desktop was being repaired.

[Ionizer]

Why not swap out the extra cost for Intel processors and get a WD red storage drive? 

[Slow N Stupid]

No no no no no... Just no... Please! For God sake of future! DO NOT PUT SSD IN YOUR PARENTS BUILD!

OK sorry for caps... But seriously... Ssd boot drive is too much user dependant (user pretty much needs to put all files and non-essential softwares on other drive which is too much for a parent that need you to be fixing their computer) really... Just don't. Trust me... I've learned it hard way... Soon enough they gonna complain there is not enough space and then they start randomly deleting stuff corrupting the system and in the end you end up formating the whole thing...

Just don't... Get an wd black for performance and reliability. It will also save money for something else... Like an ice cream (in Norway a cone of ice cream costs around 5 euros lol... And that's a cheap one)

[sigge300]

ubuntu is easier to use than windows in a lot of scenarios. It's not like they have to install from command line or anything. Not tech-savvy doesn't mean stupid. I bet it would only take them a couple of days to learn how to do what they need and they'd be happy to save one third of the price of their pc just by adapting to a slightly different system.

 

-edit-

 

for example my mother, which is as ignorant about pcs as they get, had no problems using ubuntu for a full month while her regular desktop was being repaired.

ye i stick to giving them windows i will not teach them to use linux. if i build it on linux then i would go for minx i think

[sigge300]

No no no no no... Just no... Please! For God sake of future! DO NOT PUT SSD IN YOUR PARENTS BUILD! OK sorry for caps... But seriously... Ssd boot drive is too much user dependant (user pretty much needs to put all files and non-essential softwares on other drive which is too much for a parent that need you to be fixing their computer) really... Just don't. Trust me... I've learned it hard way... Soon enough they gonna complain there is not enough space and then they start randomly deleting stuff corrupting the system and in the end you end up formating the whole thing... Just don't... Get an wd black for performance and reliability. It will also save money for something else... Like an ice cream (in Norway a cone of ice cream costs around 5 euros lol... And that's a cheap one)

well they already use a multi drive/partitions system

so that wont be any different for them

[Sauron]

ye i stick to giving them windows i will not teach them to use linux. if i build it on linux then i would go for minx i think

 

give it a thought though, it really boosts the performance of these low-end systems.