ASUS ROG Swift Hypothetical Question

[Geekazoid]

Hi guys,

I just have a hypothetical question regarding the ASUS ROG Swift. With said monitor selling anywhere from $700 - $1,000, depending on where one lives, how much do you think and believe the ASUS ROG Swift would cost without G-Sync?

This is just a curious question of mine and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this guys.

[LinusTech]

About $200 less.

[Geekazoid]

About $200 less.

Ah, so you're saying that G-Sync costs about $200 to add to any monitor?

[Swndlr]

Ah, so you're saying that G-Sync costs about $200 to add to any monitor?

its a chip in the monitor from what i know

[Geekazoid]

its a chip in the monitor from what i know

Yeah, I already know what it is. I'm curious as to why it can drive up the cost of a monitor so much?

[79wjd]

Yeah, I already know what it is. I'm curious as to why it can drive up the cost of a monitor so much?

Because the chip is proprietary/"expensive" 

[Shroomster]

Yeah, I already know what it is. I'm curious as to why it can drive up the cost of a monitor so much?

It is kinda like with Comcast. They pretty much don't have rivals so they can charge just as much as they want. When/If the Freesync monitors come the pricing will change.

[Geekazoid]

About $200 less.

  

its a chip in the monitor from what i know

  

Because the chip is proprietary/"expensive"

This website seems to answer my question on the cost of G-Sync: http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/NVIDIA-G-Sync-DIY-Kit-ASUS-VG248QE-Monitor-Now-Available-199

It was posted back in January of this year, but I very much doubt the cost has changed that much.

[Brandogg255]

The chip isnt being mass produced yet and only small number of batches are being made

[holytoledo]

About $200 less.

 

How sparse will the 4k g sync monitor pickings be in the coming days?

 

Should I hold out or just go for the XB280HK?

 

Your help is greatly appreciated.

[ChaosGoW]

It might cost $200 less to produce but I doubt they'd charge $200 less for a 1440p 144hz monitor that looks this good without G-Sync. I think they'd probably charge $100 less if it didn't have that feature.

[Swndlr]

Yeah, I already know what it is. I'm curious as to why it can drive up the cost of a monitor so much?

its new tech dawg + its extra stuff to add to it, the chip costs money dont ya think?

[Geekazoid]

its new tech dawg + its extra stuff to add to it, the chip costs money dont ya think?

Right dawg, gotcha! I understand ha bro ! Of course, they would cost money. This dawg was just curious, yo!

[Bensemus]

Also it's a fully programmable chip instead of being made to do one thing. This adds to the cost as it's a much more complex chip.

[Geekazoid]

Also it's a fully programmable chip instead of being made to do one thing. This adds to the cost as it's a much more complex chip.

Gotcha! Thanks for the info.

[Jcowley]

Also it's a fully programmable chip instead of being made to do one thing. This adds to the cost as it's a much more complex chip.

 

 

Gotcha! Thanks for the info.

 

I just want to point out that this is incorrect. For the number of units Nvidia is shipping for G-Sync monitors FPGAs (Programmable chips) are going to be far cheaper than getting TSMC or someone else to do a run of silicon.

 

The custom silicon would cost them millions, the FPGAs maybe hundreds of thousands, i.e. an order of magnitude less.

[Bensemus]

I just want to point out that this is incorrect. For the number of units Nvidia is shipping for G-Sync monitors FPGAs (Programmable chips) are going to be far cheaper than getting TSMC or someone else to do a run of silicon.

 

The custom silicon would cost them millions, the FPGAs maybe hundreds of thousands, i.e. an order of magnitude less.

I was taking that from Linus where he was talking about g-sync and free-sync in the last or second last wan show. Plus it make scene that a fully programmable chip would be more expensive than a chip that just has the necessary circuits to run g-sync.

[Jcowley]

I was taking that from Linus where he was talking about g-sync and free-sync in the last or second last wan show. Plus it make scene that a fully programmable chip would be more expensive than a chip that just has the necessary circuits to run g-sync.

I work with a company that uses very cheap to very expensive FPGAs and has our own silicon made by TSMC - I'm telling you FPGAs are much, much cheaper.

[Bensemus]

I work with a company that uses very cheap to very expensive FPGAs and has our own silicon made by TSMC - I'm telling you FPGAs are much, much cheaper.

why is a programmable chip cheaper than a fixed chip?

[Jcowley]

why is a programmable chip cheaper than a fixed chip?

A shuttle run with TSMC costs millions of dollars so if Nvidia are only making a small number (a few thousand probably) g-sync chips then this works out to a very high cost per chip to produce.

 

If they can buy each programmable chip for less than the above cost per chip (which they can in these kinds of quantities) then it works out cheaper.

 

I also don't know if Nvidia plans to do any kind of updates to the g-sync modules but it potentially allows improved performance without having to buy a new module for your monitor as an added benefit.

[Bensemus]

A shuttle run with TSMC costs millions of dollars so if Nvidia are only making a small number (a few thousand probably) g-sync chips then this works out to a very high cost per chip to produce.

 

If they can buy each programmable chip for less than the above cost per chip (which they can in these kinds of quantities) then it works out cheaper.

 

I also don't know if Nvidia plans to do any kind of updates to the g-sync modules but it potentially allows improved performance without having to buy a new module for your monitor as an added benefit.

Ok i understand that