Terrorist's Mother Blames Son's Actions on Video Games

[GamerDad]

All Canadians are already familiar with the shameful, despicable acts of terrorism that occurred this past week. The most despicable of which was the assault on Parliament Hill.

Well, that dumbass' mother spoke to the papers in an attempt to have some misinformation corrected and this ignorant statement popped out of this article: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/national/Exclusive+Ottawa+shooter+Michael+Zehaf+Bibeau+odds+with/10325237/story.html

 

 

 

That’s why he went to Ottawa, to try to convince officials to give him one [a passport]. Bibeau, a senior official with the Immigration and Refugee Board, believes that her son’s inability to get a passport made him snap and strike back against “symbols of government.”

“My son used to spend hours playing those war video games,” she wrote. “In looking at the event it reminded me of that except (that) now it was real life, people were real and got hurt.”

 

[LemonSpice]

Well pcgaming in canada is screwed and the mom is a dumbass so if she is right than i would have killed many people and gone insane by now

[Misanthrope]

By "His Mother" Do you mean a vaguely related and fully out of context quote fabricated by news outlets? I'd be surprised if SJWs don't blame it specifically on misogynistic violent games.

[WereCat]

Oh boy.. not again!

[Trik'Stari]

As always, "never let a good crisis go to waste". What happened to the good old days when we blamed people for their actions? isn't that why we have laws in the first place? To punish people for their actions?

 

I find this mildly appropriate (not actually blaming canada in case you don't get irony or sarcasm)

[Yoinkerman]

Being a Canadian, he wasn't even a terrorist.  He was just some crazy dude.

 

Shooter tries to rob mcdonalds with a stick:

 

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-shooter-tried-to-rob-vancouver-mcdonald-s-with-stick-1.2068636

[LAwLz]

Her son has also spent hours brushing his teeth (in total) but I don't see anyone blaming teeth brushing.

It still amazes me that study after study proves these people wrong time and time again, but yet they still blame games, or movies or stuff like that.

 

Games are games and reality is reality. You shouldn't compare the two. People who try to link them are the ones who can't tell the difference.

[Notree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALEaAAU3KAE&list=UUswH8ovgUp5Bdg-0_JTYFNw

[Tech_Dreamer]

Well, can you argue with that? :mellow:

[Tocsin_786]

i was prepared to hear that gaming would be the scapegoat. 

[Valentyn]

Her son has also spent hours brushing his teeth (in total) but I don't see anyone blaming teeth brushing.

It still amazes me that study after study proves these people wrong time and time again, but yet they still blame games, or movies or stuff like that.

 

Games are games and reality is reality. You shouldn't compare the two. People who try to link them are the ones who can't tell the difference.

 

Before games it was movies, then Metal, and rock & roll, then books, and so on. Everyone wants a scape goat, and refuse to actually try and understand the underlying issues that might have caused it.

[Trik'Stari]

Being a Canadian, he wasn't even a terrorist.  He was just some crazy dude.

 

Shooter tries to rob mcdonalds with a stick:

 

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-shooter-tried-to-rob-vancouver-mcdonald-s-with-stick-1.2068636

crazy? yes? terrorist? I think so, lone wolf or not 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/world/americas/ottawa-canada-gunmans-radicalism-deepened-as-life-crumbled.html?_r=0

 

 

Before games it was movies, then Metal, and rock & roll, then books, and so on. Everyone wants a scape goat, and refuse to actually try and understand the underlying issues that might have caused it.

Of course, we have to blame EVERYTHING other than the most probable source, religions. Unlimited faith in a superstition with no grounding in reality, which most sane people would classify as a mental disorder.

 

 

Edit: Am I the only one surprised that NYT didn't find a way to shoehorn the word "assault" somewhere in the description of the rifle? lol

[Valentyn]

 

 

Of course, we have to blame EVERYTHING other than the most probable source, religions. Unlimited faith in a superstition with no grounding in reality, which most sane people would classify as a mental disorder.

 

Let's not also forget deep rooted psychological issues. The mother states her son felt trapped, and must have did it out of despair. Surely if she knew something was going on, as a parent she should have tried to not only help him, but get him professional help.

 

Especially since they state that's why he turned towards Islam, in an attempt to make sense of it all.

 

It just all so tragic, even more so considering what he went and did.

 

[Beskamir]

What a surprise she's trying to find an excuse for her shitty attempt at parenting.

[CtW]

I wonder how long it will be before this is plastered over all of daytime television and sensationalist websites...

[LAwLz]

Of course, we have to blame EVERYTHING other than the most probable source, religions. Unlimited faith in a superstition with no grounding in reality, which most sane people would classify as a mental disorder.

Well let's not blame religion as a whole. Even if you are religious it doesn't mean you are going to kill someone. In this case it was just vaguely related to religion (he desperately wanted to go to Saudi Arabia because it's an Islamic country). In the end all these people have one thing in common and that's that they are messed up in the head.

I guess he missed 6:151 in the Quran. "[...]do not take any human being's life- [the life] which God has declared to be sacred[...]".

 

 

After reading the quote again it's heavily implied that she is blaming games, but she is not saying it flat out. Maybe, just maybe (there is a very slim chance) that she was just making an analogy and didn't intend to blame games at all.

[Trik'Stari]

Let's not also forget deep rooted psychological issues. The mother states her son felt trapped, and must have did it out of despair. Surely if she knew something was going on, as a parent she should have tried to not only help him, but get him professional help.

 

Especially since they state that's why he turned towards Islam, in an attempt to make sense of it all.

 

It just all so tragic, even more so considering what he went and did.

 

That's essentially what I was saying, religion is a psychological issue. It's an opiate for people who can't make sense of life or the world, or who cannot find a true purpose in life and need something to give them a purpose, even if it's a completely artificial (and if you really look at it, a self defeating one) purpose.

 

Well let's not blame religion as a whole. Even if you are religious it doesn't mean you are going to kill someone. In this case it was just vaguely related to religion (he desperately wanted to go to Saudi Arabia because it's an Islamic country). In the end all these people have one thing in common and that's that they are messed up in the head.

I guess he missed 6:151 in the Quran. "[...]do not take any human being's life- [the life] which God has declared to be sacred[...]".

 

 

After reading the quote again it's heavily implied that she is blaming games, but she is not saying it flat out. Maybe, just maybe (there is a very slim chance) that she was just making an analogy and didn't intend to blame games at all.

I blame religions for perpetuating mental disorders (of a sort, both ignorance and dementia) and in fact encouraging them. Read the above. I'm not saying if you are religious you are going to kill someone, I'm saying if you are religious you have what I would call a mental disorder of some sort. They "deny reality and substitute their own" in a way.

[Razzaa]

That's essentially what I was saying, religion is a psychological issue. It's an opiate for people who can't make sense of life or the world, or who cannot find a true purpose in life and need something to give them a purpose, even if it's a completely artificial (and if you really look at it, a self defeating one) purpose.

I blame religions for perpetuating mental disorders (of a sort, both ignorance and dementia) and in fact encouraging them. Read the above. I'm not saying if you are religious you are going to kill someone, I'm saying if you are religious you have what I would call a mental disorder of some sort. They "deny reality and substitute their own" in a way.

It is clear you do not understand the point of having religious beliefs. No offense but your statement is the most ignorant statement i have read about religion.

[ilikemacandpc]

@Trik'Stari

 

It's pointless arguing against religion. The point of this thread is to show that  blaming videogames for the murderer's issues is stupid. 

We must, as a community, support gaming, and its potential for good. 

 

Before games it was movies, then Metal, and rock & roll, then books, and so on. Everyone wants a scape goat, and refuse to actually try and understand the underlying issues that might have caused it.

 

This. This is great!

[Trik'Stari]

It is clear you do bot understand the point of having religious beliefs. No offense but your statement is the most ignorant statement i have read about religion.

Oh I understand it completely. You need a reward to motivate you to be a good person, which is why religions have the promise of heaven and the threat of hell as motivators. Never mind the fact that a selfless act is one that has no motivation and is done purely out of kindness (which has been mathematically proven to not exist, that is a truly selfless act), thus making the idea of heaven and hell self defeating, and the idea that going to church makes you a good person a ludicrous one. I was raised in the southern united states, I've had my fair share of religion and I can happily state that most of it is self fulfillment

 

"altruism" or human kindness, is an evolutionary trait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_equation#Example:_Evolution_of_altruism

 

@Trik'Stari

 

It's pointless arguing against religion. The point of this thread is to show that  blaming videogames for the murderer's issues is stupid. 

We must, as a community, support gaming, and its potential for good. 

 

 

This. This is great!

Fair enough. Just wanted to make a point. I would equate blaming video games for violence with blaming "the devil" for acts of evil, just another scape goat.

[Razzaa]

Oh I understand it completely. You need a reward to motivate you to be a good person, which is why religions have the promise of heaven and the threat of hell as motivators. Never mind the fact that a selfless act is one that has no motivation and is done purely out of kindness (which has been mathematically proven to not exist, that is a truly selfless act), thus making the idea of heaven and hell self defeating, and the idea that going to church makes you a good person a ludicrous one. I was raised in the southern united states, I've had my fair share of religion and I can happily state that most of it is self fulfillment

Fair enough. Just wanted to make a point. I would equate blaming video games for violence with blaming "the devil" for acts of evil, just another scape goat.

I could argue that you have a mental disorder. You spend a great amount of time talking to people that you have never met. Playing games in a non existent world because you enjoy not living in reality!! See my point?

[Trik'Stari]

I could argue that you have a mental disorder. You spend a great amount of time talking to people that you have never met. Playing games in a non existent world because you enjoy not living in reality!! See my point?

The difference is, I know for a fact that it's a non existent reality, whereas religion believes it to be real. Can you not see the difference? I don't believe that there are actually tiny people living in my computer doing things only when I am watching.

[HalGameGuru]

I still get headaches over people trying to vilify video gaming as a font of evil when its no different than any other form of entertainment, escapism, or sublimation. No one exists without leisure or something they use to center. If you are messed up in the head KNITTING will shove you into the realm of victimization. Heal the mentally ill, punish the criminal, video games are an innocent third party. 

 

Oh I understand it completely. You need a reward to motivate you to be a good person, which is why religions have the promise of heaven and the threat of hell as motivators. Never mind the fact that a selfless act is one that has no motivation and is done purely out of kindness (which has been mathematically proven to not exist, that is a truly selfless act), thus making the idea of heaven and hell self defeating, and the idea that going to church makes you a good person a ludicrous one. I was raised in the southern united states, I've had my fair share of religion and I can happily state that most of it is self fulfillment

 

Fair enough. Just wanted to make a point. I would equate blaming video games for violence with blaming "the devil" for acts of evil, just another scape goat.

Which is why most of that stuff is not the norm.

 

Psychologically, I won't say religion, but faith is in fact NOT a DISorder, it is one of the many interesting things our brains are wired for. Just like spatial awareness, finding memes funny, or the smell of our own flatulence not bothering us.

 

I have many disagreements with religion, but on faith and philosophy I find less issue, on a case by case basis. Take any system with a grain of salt, but it only takes continuing to question on beyond the big bang, or beyond our physical universe or dimension, or just consciousness itself to start making such ideas of existence and consciousness beyond our current understanding seem less extraordinary. Heck just remove the anthropomorphism of our idea of a deity and it could just as easily be described as the underlying order of the universe, reason and logic, or an extra-universal being that can interact with or at least knows of our reality.

[Razzaa]

The difference is, I know for a fact that it's a non existent reality, whereas religion believes it to be real. Can you not see the difference? I don't believe that there are actually tiny people living in my computer doing things only when I am watching.

The guy was a wacko. It wasnt because he was religious lol. It was because he had a chemical imbalance in his brain. Him being religious isnt even relevant. If the guy was anything but a muslim religion would be a non issue and nobody would be saying anything about terrorism. People are main stream media puppets and regurgitate what is said on tv.

He wasnt a terrorist. The government uses this shit to pass laws and strip us of rights and freedoms. This shit has been happening forever. No amount of security will stop crazy people from committing these acts. Last week someone got shot in my city and nobody batted an eye. Someone tries to kill a bunch of rich greedy lying politicians and OMG TERRORIST!!!

[Hoppa]

What did they blame it on before video games were invented?