Windows vs Mac OS

[APatientGuy]

I do not know much about this to begin with. I've never owned a mac. I've been using pc's my whole life. That being said, what would be honest reasons I should switch to the mac? I see plenty of youtubers using macs but what is the point of them? I know I can run hackintosh on a pc but it's probably not the same. I'm kind of stuck in the middle and I don't know which to choose, mac or pc. Please be honest and give valid reasons, thank you. I'm looking at this to do productive things such as video editing and photoshop. (I do game, but I have an xbox one where I play with friends.) 

[minibois]

Content creation. 

[Snickerzz]

most people prefer video editing and such on mac but i think its more of a UI/style thing people enjoy more than and performance differences

[Anthony10]

Depends what programs you use, if you are used to Windows you probably like the programs you are using.

They're pretty much the same IMO, just different GUI and differently named programs I have used macs before (my dad owns one and a school I toured used them) and I own an iPad/iPhone, I honestly am not a fan but I guess it comes down to preference. If you are on the go then you'll have to get a macbook if you want MacOS, but if you are building a desktop and deciding, I would just make a hackintosh.

[bchampion96]

I do not know much about this to begin with. I've never owned a mac. I've been using pc's my whole life. That being said, what would be honest reasons I should switch to the mac? I see plenty of youtubers using macs but what is the point of them? I know I can run hackintosh on a pc but it's probably not the same. I'm kind of stuck in the middle and I don't know which to choose, mac or pc. Please be honest and give valid reasons, thank you. I'm looking at this to do productive things such as video editing and photoshop. (I do game, but I have an xbox one where I play with friends.) 

 

I started using it because that's where Logic is (the DAW). It's a nice OS. More limited in a lot of ways compared to windows, but it works well, looks nice and gets the job done. What more does one need?

[APatientGuy]

I started using it because that's where Logic is (the DAW). It's a nice OS. More limited in a lot of ways compared to windows, but it works well, looks nice and gets the job done. What more does one need?

Agreed. No gimmicks needed, just want my things to work flawlessly. Nicely said

[thekeemo]

its simple thats the only possible reason even for content creation (proof the LTT crew use windows)

[Sauron]

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Please remember to follow your topics!

 

If you ask me, buying a mac makes no sense, at all, for anyone ranging from a consumer to a professional content creator. They're just plain extremely overpriced compared to self-built pcs with the same specs. I kind of see them having a place in an industrial environment where they can't manually build every single pc, but even then there are better solutions amongst OEMs...

There are benefits to the OS compared to windows, but you could very well install linux on your pc and have a system which is just as good if not better than mac os. Most of the benefits regard stability rather than actual performance.

 

Other people will be of a different opinion, the above is my 2 cents on the matter. Before you buy anything from apple, I advise you try and make a pc with the same specs on pcpartpicker, chances are you'd spare a whole lot of money by getting that one. By the way. iMacs use laptop hardware in most cases, so be careful when they say "i5!" and "i7!" because some of those are actually hyperthreaded dual cores from the ULP cathegory, which suck performancewise compared to their desktop counterparts.

[Geekazoid]

...looks nice and gets the job done.

Especially OS X Yosemite. I got a 2012 MacBook Air, but I haven't updated to the new OS yet, I do plan to though.

[Guest]

More limited in a lot of ways compared to windows, but it works well, looks nice and gets the job done.

What I find interesting about OS X is that it is more limited than Windows out of the box, but can be configured to be less limited. OS X gives you root access if you check a box in the depths of the setting menus. This right away gives you a less restrictive environment than Windows because it gives you full control over all system files.

 

Going back to the original post, I like OS X because it is (in my opinion) a much more elegant OS. OS X is based heavily on BSD which is based around Unix, which has set the standard for how almost all operating systems work today, except Windows. If you know your way around a Linux system, you can do some very powerful things with OS X that are very difficult to do in Windows, for example, changing which drives are mounted on start up. In OS X and all other Unix-like operating systems, this can be done by editing the system file /etc/fstab. Its a simple change. I truthfully wouldn't even know where to begin to do with in Windows...

[KingKeith55]

Windows 10 Crushes Mac OSX. Every time Apple does something good, Microsoft turns around and bests that.

 

OSX is nice for image/media related things, from using it a little I found it rather useful for Media and Images. 

 

Buying a Mac is a waste of money, they overprice them and get people to spread rumors that they are somehow "better" than hackintosh.

 

Just build a decent Computer and make it a Hackintosh if you are really really interested in OSX. I personally dislike it simply because it has lack of some apps I use frequently on Windows, its more limited and I just don't like the User interface. (My personal preference, you might think otherwise)

 

That being said I hate Apple, but im not going to go saying "APPLE SUCKS LOLOLOLOL" because it might suit your needs, but not mine.

 

 

If you want my advice, try Ubuntu or Linux. If you dont like it then try OSX if youre really interested in it. But I would say go for PC if you have used it your entire life. Windows 10 looks promising so I would go down the PC path if I were you.

[Dimwitted]

Previous to XP the MacOS was a superior experience. Not crash proof as people wanted to believe but pretty decent. Since that time the benefits have waned to the point that Win7 can be superior to OS X. The biggest issue is that nobody runs an O/S. It's the bkgd to what you are really doing. The Win platform will have as many apps or more than MacOS for any one application and there's many applications that don't have a Mac app. Even better, most of the really decent apps are cross platform so it really doesn't matter which O/S you're using. Add to that the issue of how locked down the hardware is by Apple. Not a feature.

 

TL:DR Save your money and just use a Win box. There's no benefit to switching.

[Satlen]

OS X since it is Unix based had a lot of hardware compatibility out of the box thus not needing to install drivers all of the time. Also it is good for work like media creation and programming. I also think the OS is more productive than Windows because of the gestures you can do on the trackpad.

[lilshatespug217]

Please remember to follow your topics!

 

If you ask me, buying a mac makes no sense, at all, for anyone ranging from a consumer to a professional content creator. They're just plain extremely overpriced compared to self-built pcs with the same specs. I kind of see them having a place in an industrial environment where they can't manually build every single pc, but even then there are better solutions amongst OEMs...

There are benefits to the OS compared to windows, but you could very well install linux on your pc and have a system which is just as good if not better than mac os. Most of the benefits regard stability rather than actual performance.

 

Other people will be of a different opinion, the above is my 2 cents on the matter. Before you buy anything from apple, I advise you try and make a pc with the same specs on pcpartpicker, chances are you'd spare a whole lot of money by getting that one. By the way. iMacs use laptop hardware in most cases, so be careful when they say "i5!" and "i7!" because some of those are actually hyperthreaded dual cores from the ULP cathegory, which suck performancewise compared to their desktop counterparts.

Not overpriced. Take a look at the new 5K imac:

 

$2500 (Same price as a 5k monitor from dell that they are going to release)

 

3.5ghz I5 (Desktop, not mobile)

 

8GB Ram

 

1TB Fusion Drive

 

AMD Radeon R9 M290X 2GB GDDR5

 

Good quality bluetooth keybaord and mouse

 

The sexy imac form factor.

 

Apple support, and the stability of OSX.

 

And for only $500 more, you can change the CPU out for an i7 4.0ghz (probably 4790), and add a 4gb m925x gfx card. If you really want to, you can swap out the fusion for a 256gb SSD for free. So... yeah. Not overpriced if you need a extremely high resolution editing station. (And there are even more upgrades available if you need them)

 

I know you are gonna say something along the lines of "you don't need that many pixels"... however, if that is the case, this is not for you. It for graphic design and video/ photo editing people, who actually will notice the difference between a 28in 4k and 5k display.

 

Basically what I am saying is that saying macs are extremely overpriced is just a load of crap.

[smjpl]

its simple thats the only possible reason even for content creation (proof the LTT crew use windows)

 

There is a lot of reasons to like OSX. I am not a big Mac user but I believe a lot of programmers like working with Mac. It has some really cool concepts that I'd like to see implemented on other OS'. I really like the idea of Grand Central Dispatch. Having a system wide set of thread pools that that all processes are scheduled on is a forward thinking idea. Multithreading is the future and they are trying some interesting things. 

[Sauron]

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I did the math. A pc with the same specs and TWO 24" 4k ips monitors would be about 400$ less. Membrane keyboards are cheap, apple's version is nothing special to be honest (I've tried it, it's not any better than my 20$ hama kb) and so are decent mice.

As for the os, linux is just as good and gets 4 years of full support (I'm specifically thinking of ubuntu lts releases), plus free upgrades and none of the chains macos puts on you.

 

How the jump between an i5 and an i7 and a slightly better gpu is worth 500$ to you is unconceivable to me. In a pc that passage would be less than 200$.

 

No, I'm not going so say anything about the pixel count except that 2 4k screens have more I'm not going to advocate against resolution, I'm an early adopter of 4k myself ^^

I will say that the 2500$ model is largely insufficient to do any proper photo and especially video editing though. I've always wondered why people keep advocating in the imacs' favour bringing up video editing, when they are a terrible choice for that use (at least the ""cheaper"" versions are, and the higher you go the more expensive extra features get).

 

I don't really want to be dragged in another mac discussion, so if it's fine with you I'd be glad to agree to disagree. I just wanted to show you that my opinion isn't based on thin air or prejudice.

[smjpl]

One major reason to consider OSX if you plan to take up content creation as a profession; simply a lot of the industry already uses it. I was watching Tek Syndicates most recent inbox.exe video and the editor dude (can't remember his name) was making this very point. He almost never comes across anyone with Windows when he is working on shoots for advertisements or events.

 

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[lilshatespug217]

I did the math. A pc with the same specs and TWO 24" 4k ips monitors would be about 400$ less. Membrane keyboards are cheap, apple's version is nothing special to be honest (I've tried it, it's not any better than my 20$ hama kb) and so are decent mice.

As for the os, linux is just as good and gets 4 years of full support (I'm specifically thinking of ubuntu lts releases), plus free upgrades and none of the chains macos puts on you.

 

How the jump between an i5 and an i7 and a slightly better gpu is worth 500$ to you is unconceivable to me. In a pc that passage would be less than 200$.

 

No, I'm not going so say anything about the pixel count except that 2 4k screens have more I'm not going to advocate against resolution, I'm an early adopter of 4k myself ^^

I will say that the 2500$ model is largely insufficient to do any proper photo and especially video editing though. I've always wondered why people keep advocating in the imacs' favour bringing up video editing, when they are a terrible choice for that use (at least the ""cheaper"" versions are, and the higher you go the more expensive extra features get).

 

I don't really want to be dragged in another mac discussion, so if it's fine with you I'd be glad to agree to disagree. I just wanted to show you that my opinion isn't based on thin air or prejudice.

Fair enough.

 

Although, I think that mac is **slightly** better than linux due to some first party apple apps. (I use ubuntu on my laptop, and mac on my desktop, and have used windows and will soon have a windows pc, so this does not come from any real "mac OS always wins" or whatever bias)

[Redliub]

By the way. iMacs use laptop hardware in most cases, so be careful when they say "i5!" and "i7!" because some of those are actually hyperthreaded dual cores from the ULP cathegory, which suck performancewise compared to their desktop counterparts.

What delicious claim chowder. To bad only one of the iMacs is using a laptop part! (not even ULP...awww so sad)

 

Windows 10 Crushes Mac OSX. Every time Apple does something good, Microsoft turns around and bests that.

Yeah, it totally crushes it. Just look at those Windows 10 sales numbers! wow!

 

More like Microsoft turns around and worsts that. There's not a single thing I can think of that Windows does better. Actually Active Directory is pretty cool but most people will never even know of its existence.

 

Everything else is just a crude ripoff from OS X or even UNIX as a whole. UAC, multiple desktops, PowerShell, (ugh Perl)...the list goes on.

 

People say Apple isn't the company they used to be...look at Microsoft.

[GLaDER]

That being said, what would be honest reasons I should switch to the mac?

I'd say UNIX. The simplicity and the over all (or, underlying...) infrastructure is just superior to MS-DOS.

[MrSuperb]

Windows 10 Crushes Mac OSX. Every time Apple does something good, Microsoft turns around and bests that.

Like Vista or 8, right?

OSX is nice for image/media related things, from using it a little I found it rather useful for Media and Images.

OS X is nice for pretty much everything. The reason why it was prefered in the media industry, was because it had much better profiling support from the ground up.

Buying a Mac is a waste of money, they overprice them and get people to spread rumors that they are somehow "better" than hackintosh.

We had this like a 1000x here. They are competively priced if you compare it to comparable hardware.

But let's take the new 5K iMac. The yet unreleased Dell 5K monitor is supposed to cost 2.5 grand. So you basialy get a whole computer for free (in a nice package).

Just build a decent Computer and make it a Hackintosh if you are really really interested in OSX. I personally dislike it simply because it has lack of some apps I use frequently on Windows, its more limited and I just don't like the User interface. (My personal preference, you might think otherwise)

What lack of apps would that be?

Also how do you want to build your own notebook?

If you want my advice, try Ubuntu or Linux. If you dont like it then try OSX if youre really interested in it. But I would say go for PC if you have used it your entire life. Windows 10 looks promising so I would go down the PC path if I were you.

So you don't like OS X for it's lack of Apps you need, but then recommend Ubuntu

Further you are speculating how good a future version of Windows might be?

Sry, but your Windows-fanboyism can be smelld miles away.

[MrSuperb]

I did the math. A pc with the same specs and TWO 24" 4k ips monitors would be about 400$ less.

So the Dell UP2414Q costs $700 now and the Dell 27" 5K monitor (with 1.8 times the pixel count) is supposed to cost $2500.

Big fucking surprise, that smaller and lesser models are cheaper.

Just buy 6 1080p screens and save even more money?!

Membrane keyboards are cheap, apple's version is nothing special to be honest (I've tried it, it's not any better than my 20$ hama kb) and so are decent mice.

Tell yourself what ever you want, but this is simply not true, and even some hardcore windows fans, would tell you that.

As for the os, linux is just as good and gets 4 years of full support (I'm specifically thinking of ubuntu lts releases), plus free upgrades and none of the chains macos puts on you.

You truely must never have used neither OS X, nor linux for more than 10 minutes.

Also free OS updates are a thing now (even for 6 year old and even older macs) 

No, I'm not going so say anything about the pixel count except that 2 4k screens have more I'm not going to advocate against resolution, I'm an early adopter of 4k myself ^^

slightly more (12%) on two screens vs one, so what?

I will say that the 2500$ model is largely insufficient to do any proper photo and especially video editing though.

Tell us, why they are largely insufficient to do any proper photo or video editing.

I just wanted to show you that my opinion isn't based on thin air or prejudice.

Your whole opinion is based on thin air, no matter what you tell yourself.

[NeatSquidYT]

its simple thats the only possible reason even for content creation (proof the LTT crew use windows)

Macs are better for content creation, it's just LMG use Windows as they presumably use Windows only features or don't like the restrictions of Hackintoshes

[ManWithBeard1990]

There's no objective benefit. But it is more likeable than Windows, I find.

[mr moose]

I wonder how many pages of this BS will ensue?

 

It's simple, these days its just a preference.  One OS v Another, there is no real advantage to one over the other anymore. Choose the one you prefer, everyone is different.

 

And the whole content creation benefits of Apple died years ago,  In fact they died when suitable software became available on windows that wasn't ludicrously expensive. The main reason many started using macs for editing and content creation was simply because the software for it came included, not because it was necessarily better (that is use case dependent).   

 

EDIT: to answer the OP more specifically, if you are interested in running adobe software then it doesn't matter whether you use windows or OSX, the software is exactly the same on both.  The only real difference is going to be if you want to build the computer yourself or if you are buying prebuilt and what country you live in. If you are intending on using a current windows machine then I recommend sticking with windows becuase you will have les issues getting it to work on you your hardware than diving into a hackintosh. Also In Australia it is significantly cheaper to custom build and sometimes cheap to buy prebuilt windows systems, but you have to look closely at what you you are buying.