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New iPad Air 2 compared to other tablets including Nvidia Shield (Geekbench)

Here is a compression between the new iPad Air 2 and some other iOS & Android tablets.

 

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still a bunch of crap to me



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If there was a real pen input (not a shit capacitive stylus) the new iPad would be perfect for me.

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Benchmarks on a tablet (and phones for that matter) are buckets of useless crap. Tablets are not for gaming (feel free to disagree with me), extreme overclocking or showing off to your friends. Tablets on the other hand are all about bringing a webpage with you to show your better half, checking your email from the couch and watching an episode of Friends before snuggling in and falling asleep. To me it appears absolutely ridiculous that we always have to talk about higher and higher performance numbers when in reality it's not the CPU / GPU / APU behind that matters but rather the way that it helps you do the things mentioned above. Whether or not the new iPad has double the score of the NVIDIA Shield in some arbitrary benchmark I could not care less about, where the iPad is really ahead is in software. Nothing else comes close. Come at me.

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oh damn the Air 2 beats the shield tablet! BUT...it's cheaper and has a pen...

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Benchmarks on a tablet (and phones for that matter) are buckets of useless crap. Tablets are not for gaming (feel free to disagree with me), extreme overclocking or showing off to your friends. Tablets on the other hand are all about bringing a webpage with you to show your better half, checking your email from the couch and watching an episode of Friends before snuggling in and falling asleep. To me it appears absolutely ridiculous that we always have to talk about higher and higher performance numbers when in reality it's not the CPU / GPU / APU behind that matters but rather the way that it helps you do the things mentioned above. Whether or not the new iPad has double the score of the NVIDIA Shield in some arbitrary benchmark I could not care less about, where the iPad is really ahead is in software. Nothing else comes close. Come at me.

yeah. sure the Ipad is ahead in its software. that didn't change exept for notifications. last year..... way ahead !

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Benchmarks on a tablet (and phones for that matter) are buckets of useless crap. Tablets are not for gaming (feel free to disagree with me), extreme overclocking or showing off to your friends. Tablets on the other hand are all about bringing a webpage with you to show your better half, checking your email from the couch and watching an episode of Friends before snuggling in and falling asleep. To me it appears absolutely ridiculous that we always have to talk about higher and higher performance numbers when in reality it's not the CPU / GPU / APU behind that matters but rather the way that it helps you do the things mentioned above. Whether or not the new iPad has double the score of the NVIDIA Shield in some arbitrary benchmark I could not care less about, where the iPad is really ahead is in software. Nothing else comes close. Come at me.

You are right.it is what u use the device for. However the ipad is not ahead on software

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Come at me.

Why are you on a PC enthusiast forum when things like raw power isn't a concern?

Makes no sense. "I'm an enthusiast but super strong and expensive parts mean nothing."

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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Why are you on a PC enthusiast forum when things like raw power isn't a concern?

Makes no sense. "I'm an enthusiast but super strong and expensive parts mean nothing."

he cares about component in other devices, but not tablets because of what he uses them for.

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what about the iPad mini 3?

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Benchmarks on a tablet (and phones for that matter) are buckets of useless crap. Tablets are not for gaming (feel free to disagree with me), extreme overclocking or showing off to your friends. Tablets on the other hand are all about bringing a webpage with you to show your better half, checking your email from the couch and watching an episode of Friends before snuggling in and falling asleep. To me it appears absolutely ridiculous that we always have to talk about higher and higher performance numbers when in reality it's not the CPU / GPU / APU behind that matters but rather the way that it helps you do the things mentioned above. Whether or not the new iPad has double the score of the NVIDIA Shield in some arbitrary benchmark I could not care less about, where the iPad is really ahead is in software. Nothing else comes close. Come at me.

1) Higher performance will enable more advanced things to be done, and it has actually already done that. Try using an iPhone 3G and you will realize how terrible the performance is, but at the time people were saying it was more than enough. In fact, you're saying the same things people said about desktops before. "We don't need 1GHz CPUs. Desktops are about X and Y and for that you don't need more than 500MHz!".

 

2) Higher performance without drawbacks is always better, even for simple stuff. Why would you want to wait 1 second for a page to load if you could wait 0.7 seconds? Don't try to pull the "it's just a small difference" because that's not a real argument. Tell me why having websites load faster is a bad thing. Performance is always good, even if you don't think it's super important. It's completely absurd to whine about CPUs and GPUs getting faster. Imagine if people were to complain about the GTX 970 performing so well and then going "but most people including me don't need it so therefore it is useless crap". It sounds absurd because it is. It is exactly as absurd as your post is.

 

3) I strongly disagree that the iPad is ahead in software. iOS is terrible in a lot of areas. In fact, when it comes to scaling it is so bad that the iPhone 6+ doesn't even render things at native resolution (because iOS can't scale things to 1920x1080 automatically).

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Wow, beastly performance cant wait to play some awesome games on it :)

 

XCom is a little slow on my iPad 4, this looks awesome, might be getting a shield tablet soon, so maybe I can compair

 

 

If there was a real pen input (not a shit capacitive stylus) the new iPad would be perfect for me.

 

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1) Higher performance will enable more advanced things to be done, and it has actually already done that. Try using an iPhone 3G and you will realize how terrible the performance is, but at the time people were saying it was more than enough. In fact, you're saying the same things people said about desktops before. "We don't need 1GHz CPUs. Desktops are about X and Y and for that you don't need more than 500MHz!".

 

2) Higher performance without drawbacks is always better, even for simple stuff. Why would you want to wait 1 second for a page to load if you could wait 0.7 seconds? Don't try to pull the "it's just a small difference" because that's not a real argument. Tell me why having websites load faster is a bad thing. Performance is always good, even if you don't think it's super important. It's completely absurd to whine about CPUs and GPUs getting faster. Imagine if people were to complain about the GTX 970 performing so well and then going "but most people including me don't need it so therefore it is useless crap". It sounds absurd because it is. It is exactly as absurd as your post is.

 

3) I strongly disagree that the iPad is ahead in software. iOS is terrible in a lot of areas. In fact, when it comes to scaling it is so bad that the iPhone 6+ doesn't even render things at native resolution (because iOS can't scale things to 1920x1080 automatically).

 

I never said better performance wasn't desirable, what I'm saying is that judging a tablet based on numbers spit out by some program rather than on how it actually feels and performs in real life is ridiculous. I see that you strongly disagree that the iPad is ahead in software, yet the only fault you mention has nothing to do with the iPad but rather the iPhone 6+ (a product that in itself is rather bizarre). As it stands I have been all around the range and I haven't found a single reason to run an Android (or Windows for that matter) device over the iPad, something that's definitely not true the other way around. To list a few: I have in my times with an iPad never encountered a single error. While the number of apps on iOS may or may not be considerably smaller than what's available on Android I have found that the selection is generally better on iOS and the amount of crapware that plagues Play store isn't an issue on the Appstore. OS functionality seems to generally work out better be it Siri (which admittedly I only very rarely use), the music player, the browser etc. While I guess it's subjective and very superficial I also think iOS looks a ton better than anything I've ever seen from Android but I'll leave that one to the individual.

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I never said better performance wasn't desirable, what I'm saying is that judging a tablet based on numbers spit out by some program rather than on how it actually feels and performs in real life is ridiculous.

But the numbers will reflect how it performs in real life. Higher numbers = better performance.

With Geekbench you also got the benefit that you can look up how close they are to thinks like x86 laptops which is very interesting to me.

 

 

 

I see that you strongly disagree that the iPad is ahead in software, yet the only fault you mention has nothing to do with the iPad but rather the iPhone 6+ (a product that in itself is rather bizarre). As it stands I have been all around the range and I haven't found a single reason to run an Android (or Windows for that matter) device over the iPad, something that's definitely not true the other way around. To list a few: I have in my times with an iPad never encountered a single error. While the number of apps on iOS may or may not be considerably smaller than what's available on Android I have found that the selection is generally better on iOS and the amount of crapware that plagues Play store isn't an issue on the Appstore. OS functionality seems to generally work out better be it Siri (which admittedly I only very rarely use), the music player, the browser etc. While I guess it's subjective and very superficial I also think iOS looks a ton better than anything I've ever seen from Android but I'll leave that one to the individual.

The iPhone 6+ example was just that, an example. The reason why I specifically mentioned that was that people have this false idea that "Apple devices are designed for the OS so therefore they work better" which is pure bullshit.

If you haven't found any reason for using Android/WP then iOS might be good for you. For me it is the other way around.

 

If you have never encountered an error with your iPad then you probably don't know what an error looks like (most of the time with crashes on iOS you don't get an error, it just throws you back to the home screen) or you have barely used it. The retina iPad runs out of memory and crashes because of it constantly. Hell, Anand which is a pretty huge fan of Apple even admitted that his iPad Air crashed several times a week and when he looked in the error logs he found that it was because of memory issues. A quick Google search shows that it is, or at least was, a very very common issue.

 

I will admit that the average app on iOS is better than on Android, but I find that in terms of the best apps on each platform Android often comes out on top. They are often far more powerful because of the less restrictions on the platform.

For example you can't get emulators on iOS. There is no file manager. No alternative browsers (that's more than a simple skin). No alternative launchers. Last time I checked I couldn't even find a good and powerful manga reader (for example Perfect Viewer on Android lets you tweak everything down to which scaling algorithm you want to use for the thumbnails).

Also, there is a huge amount of crapware in the iOS app store. This article is a bit old at this point but the problem is still there (might even have grown).

"More than 400,000 iOS Apps are 'Zombie Apps'". By zombie apps they mean an app that does not have any reviews and is not easy to find in the app store. There are about 2000 flashlight apps for iOS.

 

I don't even understand what you mean by "OS functionality seems to generally work out better be it Siri (which admittedly I only very rarely use), the music player, the browser etc" so I can't even argue against it. Work better how? Does the Android music player not play music? Or do you mean that the music player for example supports more formats (which would be an inaccurate statement, the iOS music player is terrible on that front)? Is the equalizer better? That statement is extremely vague.

 

Yes, looks are incredibly subjective and it also changes all the time. People have been saying that all the time even though iOS has (if you ask me) looks terrible until iOS 7 (where it got a lot better but personally I still don't like it).

This is what iOS 6 looked like. Does anyone think it looks good anymore?

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