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For that you must disable "Fast Startup" option in the power managment options in any OS. You would usually chose the powermanagment icon in start menu, then go to "Chose what power button" or "Chose what closing the lid does" then select "Change settings that are currently unavaible" and disable the "Turn on fast startup".

Even tho it says that it doesn't affect restarts it helped me to solve the problem of the boot MGR not appearing, if anyone including you has anymore questions feel free to ask ;)

 

Honestly, the "feature" doesn't bother me at all :P

 

If Windows Update needs to reboot, or an application requests a reboot, then 9 times out of 10, I'll want to reboot back into the same OS. I'm actually perfectly fine with the boot manager only appearing when I do a cold boot, or a manual restart.

Okay, this is my first review, and I will be doing it for Windows 10...

 

When the WAN show archive went up yesterday I wanted to become a Insider.

So I did, and here are my first experiences.

 

The thread will be updated if I didn't cover something and will be updated for some older game benchmarks.

 

So, lets tune in, shall we?

 

THE INSTALLATION

 

The Installation via USB was hard enough... Now you wont see the (Press any Key) message pop up... A normal Windows 8 logo will pop up or your manufacturers logo, depends... Don't take your USB out! You will know if it's booting into the installation because it will take longer than normal boot in your current OS! (If you have already installed version of Windows 8) The installation starts and you do the same steps as in 8 or 8.1, but weirdly it doesn't ask for the code they provided you... if you're on USB and it does a first reboot reboot, let it reboot, go into BIOS and change the boot order back from USB to HDD, or you will just loop the installation which can corrupt your boot loader. This time there will be a black screen for a longer time, and a Windows 8 logo for a longer time... When it boots it will setup things and then you need to type in your email, and this time you can't bypass this (I couldn't)

 

This makes sense, when you go into Hotmail you need to provide them another email address from now to use it (for backup purposes) and they even ask you a mail you provided in the Hotmail for activation purposes....

 

Activation goes like this!

 

1. Email here

2. Password here

 

Click next

 

3. Secondary email you provided in Hotmail while becoming a insider

 

Click next

 

4. Code they will give you on your secondary email PUT HERE!

 

Click next

 

It should activate everything now, and you're ready to go... It automatically installs a generic NVidia or AMD driver in your system

 

FILES, FOLDERS AND NEW UI!

 

When you boot up after installation, you  will be presented with the same desktop as on windows 8... But, HOLY CRAP, THERE ACTUALLY IS A START MENU which reminds more of XP!

 

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I won't provide any pictures, if you wanna see you gotta do it for yourself :D

If you already had Windows 8, even if you don't click upgrade in installation (because you want to dual boot just like I did), they will give you the same wallpaper you got on Windows 8, on your desktop...

 

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Also the Metro interface still exists, but you need to enable it...

 

To do so: Right Click on taskbar -> Properties -> Start Menu tab -> Uncheck first option...

There you go...

 

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There is also a search icon, it just does quick searches on bing, when you first use it the message will pop up: "Why didn't you use the Start Menu?"

 

Which made me laugh as hell

 

Third Icon on taskbar manages your opened windows, and HOLY CRAP! WHOLE DESKTOPS... Yes, you can add those... When you add them it just duplicates the first one you have, but you can customize the second one, and leave the first one alone!

 

On your taskbar will also be pinned: Internet Explorer, File explorer that was renamed to "home", Store app and nothing else

Everything else is pretty minimalistic... And did I say that the Metro apps (now intergraded in the start menu) don't have to be full screen?

 

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You get everything you got with 8.1, but it also suggest what you should install based upon your last OS, which is nice!

 

Also there are animations which are actually cool looking (slight and smooth gliding when opening windows), so you won't need to turn them off!

 

Also the Window borders are thinner which you can notice from my other photos

 

DRIVERS, HARDWARE DETECTION

 

All the hardware is properly detected, drivers for them are preinstalled, but the newer ones seem to be working fine...

 

SPEED

 

In daily use I noticed that it is a bit faster than normal, but, I will also have to do some light gaming on this (pretty weak laptop)

 

 

INTERNET EXPLORER

 

It is very fast, and sturdy, good for watching videos, playing flash games, but the software from this forum doesn't cope well with it... In fact I'm using it right now and you cant Quote, change the size and color, but everything else tends to be fine!

 

DUAL BOOTING

 

Dual booting is nice and in fact you can dual boot 8, 8.1 and 10 no problem, but it uses either 7 or 8 boot loader... (7 uses ASCII and 8 uses actual GUI)

Even tho there is one weird thing, it says (recovered) next to the name of the older OS...

 

EDIT: Dual boot menu doesn't always appear and can't find a possible solution for the problem... So multiple restarts required for 8 or Techinal Preview boot...

 

GAMING

 

This section is coming soon...

 

Okay, had some time with the new Windows, and gotta say, the gaming performance is pretty good... And another thing i noticed is that heat output of the laptop is so much less defined... I currently tested on games like: CoD4 and Burnout: Paradise City. We all know that the new games will run well on the New Windows, but the older games are  always the problem... The FPS was better... Before Windows 10 I had 10-30 FPS but now I have from 30-60 with drops to 15 when multiple cars are crashing and such... CoD4 was never hard to run... Mod on custom mods like Zombies and Deathrun with custom or not custom map I always keep above 30 FPS, but most of the times I get 250 lock if playing Deathrun servers...

 

Next games to test:

 

GTA: SA

MW3 or COD2

TF2

NFS WORLD...

 

 

 

For now, my grade would be 8/10, speedy, sleek, nice... But it all comes down to gaming, or it will be the same thing as the old pal windows 8, except with start menu

 

BUGS AND GLITCHES

 

The new Windows has some bugs! It will sometimes freeze, and the Explorer will sometimes glitch, requering a whole restart of computer or ending the bugged process, things sometimes don't open, but it almost never crashed, which is nice since it's only in Beta!

 

Windows will automatically provide you with questions for feedback which you can answer on the fly...

If you are experiencing a glitch just report it to Microsoft, still this is a very nice OS!

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Photos glitched a bit, sorry for that :D

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Also the Metro interface still exists, but you need to enable it...

 

To do so: Right Click on taskbar -> Properties -> Start Menu tab -> Uncheck first option...

There you go...

This makes me happy.

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This makes me happy.

I think that was sarcasam indeed... But, if any of you guys want suggest what should I test on the OS just comment and I will do my best!

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Wait wut... I don't know if this is a stupid question but, how did you get windows 10?

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oh wait, this is a joke right?

I hope so.

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You forgot to mention that it crashes when trying to do anything with the bios through windows.

CPU-Z, GPU-Z and Asus' AI suite for example.

Sound more like a third party problem to be patched eventually, but it totally killed it for me. Muh OC

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I have gamed a little on the technical preview. Of course I should reiterate that as it's a technical preview, it might not be entirely stable (though I haven't had a single issue besides some cosmetic bugs) and it's missing some key features including DirectX 12, which will ship with Windows 10. That being said, I was surprised how well it is able to run games, as I'm getting around the same, if not more fps in games than my regular Windows 7 OS. Though this small increase in fps is probably the same as Windows 8 provides over Windows 7 in some games, due to the lighter footprint and all. Of course, there might be a much larger performance boost with the final product, but as of now, it is pretty much like gaming on Windows 7. No stability issues, fps spikes, or massive performance drops. I am utterly floored at the stability of this technical preview.

 

Just as Norman_the_Owl said, no monitoring programs work. Though you can still see your CPU overclock in the Performance tab of the Task Manager.

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Pretty nice review... Kudos.

Details separate people.

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Pretty nice review... Kudos.

Thanks, had the time to spend with the new windows, and the gaming performance seems to have been improved! We all know that the fps on high end card shouldn't drop and increase, but I'm testing this on a weak machine and the results are pretty good so far... Stay updated everyone!

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Started seeing some glitches inside the new interface... Please see the update...

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how to u turn the iso into a bootable usb drive?

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Wait wut... I don't know if this is a stupid question but, how did you get windows 10?

Okay, this is my first review, and I will be doing it for Windows 10...

 

When the WAN show archive went up yesterday I wanted to become a Insider.

So I did, and here are my first experiences.

 

The thread will be updated if I didn't cover something and will be updated for some older game benchmarks.

 

So, lets tune in, shall we?

 

THE INSTALLATION

 

The Installation via USB was hard enough... Now you wont see the (Press any Key) message pop up... A normal Windows 8 logo will pop up or your manufacturers logo, depends... Don't take your USB out! You will know if it's booting into the installation because it will take longer than normal boot in your current OS! (If you have already installed version of Windows 8) The installation starts and you do the same steps as in 8 or 8.1, but weirdly it doesn't ask for the code they provided you... if you're on USB and it does a first reboot reboot, let it reboot, go into BIOS and change the boot order back from USB to HDD, or you will just loop the installation which can corrupt your boot loader. This time there will be a black screen for a longer time, and a Windows 8 logo for a longer time... When it boots it will setup things and then you need to type in your email, and this time you can't bypass this (I couldn't)

 

This makes sense, when you go into Hotmail you need to provide them another email address from now to use it (for backup purposes) and they even ask you a mail you provided in the Hotmail for activation purposes....

 

Activation goes like this!

 

1. Email here

2. Password here

 

Click next

 

3. Secondary email you provided in Hotmail while becoming a insider

 

Click next

 

4. Code they will give you on your secondary email PUT HERE!

 

Click next

 

It should activate everything now, and you're ready to go... It automatically installs a generic NVidia or AMD driver in your system

 

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how to u turn the iso into a bootable usb drive?

You use a Windows ISO to USB tool that is a free download from Microsoft's website... And just follow my instructions ;)

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  • 2 weeks later...

Nice review, almost enough to make me want to mess around with Win 10 but now quite enough, ill stick to good old Win 7 for now.

'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.'

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Be sure to cap GTA:SA at silky smooth 26 fps.

Can't swim underwater/run quickly etc. for shit at 60 or more.

It's the game's fault though.

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Just want to add if you want to try WIndows 10 Technical Preview beware that it comes with a keylogger.

 

To disable: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/57339-Guide-Way-to-Disable-Keylogger

 

 

also to enable the F8 boot up menu: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/enable-the-f8-key-in-windows-8/

Yeah, we're all just a bunch of idiots experiencing nothing more than the placebo effect.
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Okay, this is my first review, and I will be doing it for Windows 10...

 

When the WAN show archive went up yesterday I wanted to become a Insider.

So I did, and here are my first experiences.

 

The thread will be updated if I didn't cover something and will be updated for some older game benchmarks.

 

So, lets tune in, shall we?

 

THE INSTALLATION

 

The Installation via USB was hard enough... Now you wont see the (Press any Key) message pop up... A normal Windows 8 logo will pop up or your manufacturers logo, depends... Don't take your USB out! You will know if it's booting into the installation because it will take longer than normal boot in your current OS! (If you have already installed version of Windows 8) The installation starts and you do the same steps as in 8 or 8.1, but weirdly it doesn't ask for the code they provided you... if you're on USB and it does a first reboot reboot, let it reboot, go into BIOS and change the boot order back from USB to HDD, or you will just loop the installation which can corrupt your boot loader. This time there will be a black screen for a longer time, and a Windows 8 logo for a longer time... When it boots it will setup things and then you need to type in your email, and this time you can't bypass this (I couldn't)

 

This makes sense, when you go into Hotmail you need to provide them another email address from now to use it (for backup purposes) and they even ask you a mail you provided in the Hotmail for activation purposes....

 

Activation goes like this!

 

1. Email here

2. Password here

 

Click next

 

3. Secondary email you provided in Hotmail while becoming a insider

 

Click next

 

4. Code they will give you on your secondary email PUT HERE!

 

Click next

 

It should activate everything now, and you're ready to go... It automatically installs a generic NVidia or AMD driver in your system

 

FILES, FOLDERS AND NEW UI!

 

When you boot up after installation, you  will be presented with the same desktop as on windows 8... But, HOLY CRAP, THERE ACTUALLY IS A START MENU which reminds more of XP!

 

attachicon.giflol3.jpg

 

I won't provide any pictures, if you wanna see you gotta do it for yourself :D

If you already had Windows 8, even if you don't click upgrade in installation (because you want to dual boot just like I did), they will give you the same wallpaper you got on Windows 8, on your desktop...

 

attachicon.giflol.jpg

 

Also the Metro interface still exists, but you need to enable it...

 

To do so: Right Click on taskbar -> Properties -> Start Menu tab -> Uncheck first option...

There you go...

 

attachicon.giflol1.jpg

 

There is also a search icon, it just does quick searches on bing, when you first use it the message will pop up: "Why didn't you use the Start Menu?"

 

Which made me laugh as hell

 

Third Icon on taskbar manages your opened windows, and HOLY CRAP! WHOLE DESKTOPS... Yes, you can add those... When you add them it just duplicates the first one you have, but you can customize the second one, and leave the first one alone!

 

On your taskbar will also be pinned: Internet Explorer, File explorer that was renamed to "home", Store app and nothing else

Everything else is pretty minimalistic... And did I say that the Metro apps (now intergraded in the start menu) don't have to be full screen?

 

attachicon.giflol4.jpg

 

You get everything you got with 8.1, but it also suggest what you should install based upon your last OS, which is nice!

 

Also there are animations which are actually cool looking (slight and smooth gliding when opening windows), so you won't need to turn them off!

 

Also the Window borders are thinner which you can notice from my other photos

 

DRIVERS, HARDWARE DETECTION

 

All the hardware is properly detected, drivers for them are preinstalled, but the newer ones seem to be working fine...

 

SPEED

 

In daily use I noticed that it is a bit faster than normal, but, I will also have to do some light gaming on this (pretty weak laptop)

 

 

INTERNET EXPLORER

 

It is very fast, and sturdy, good for watching videos, playing flash games, but the software from this forum doesn't cope well with it... In fact I'm using it right now and you cant Quote, change the size and color, but everything else tends to be fine!

 

DUAL BOOTING

 

Dual booting is nice and in fact you can dual boot 8, 8.1 and 10 no problem, but it uses either 7 or 8 boot loader... (7 uses ASCII and 8 uses actual GUI)

Even tho there is one weird thing, it says (recovered) next to the name of the older OS...

 

EDIT: Dual boot menu doesn't always appear and can't find a possible solution for the problem... So multiple restarts required for 8 or Techinal Preview boot...

 

GAMING

 

This section is coming soon...

 

Okay, had some time with the new Windows, and gotta say, the gaming performance is pretty good... And another thing i noticed is that heat output of the laptop is so much less defined... I currently tested on games like: CoD4 and Burnout: Paradise City. We all know that the new games will run well on the New Windows, but the older games are  always the problem... The FPS was better... Before Windows 10 I had 10-30 FPS but now I have from 30-60 with drops to 15 when multiple cars are crashing and such... CoD4 was never hard to run... Mod on custom mods like Zombies and Deathrun with custom or not custom map I always keep above 30 FPS, but most of the times I get 250 lock if playing Deathrun servers...

 

Next games to test:

 

GTA: SA

MW3 or COD2

TF2

NFS WORLD...

 

 

 

For now, my grade would be 8/10, speedy, sleek, nice... But it all comes down to gaming, or it will be the same thing as the old pal windows 8, except with start menu

Very helpful ^_^ might try it out myself

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I personally like Windows 8.1 more, bicause on 8.1 I'm feeling me with it free. Bicase I'm not always on a desktop with a backround, wich can't get out from a desktop.

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Small update in the main post... Please read ;)

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It wasn't.

 

Don't worry, you're not alone :)

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Awesome review mate!

 

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i5 4278U, Intel Iris Graphics, 8GB 1600, 128GB SSD, 2560x1600 IPS display, Mid-2014 Model

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All the parts are here, just need to get customized cords to connect the motherboard to the front panel.

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I think it's important to include "beta" in the title so if someone sees the review in 9 months time, they won't be put off by any issues that existed during the beta.

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