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i7-4790k vs i7-5820k

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Im curious as to which CPU would be better for gaming, streaming and video editing. Especially gaming for CPU heavily reliant games like Arma 3.

I have done two builds on PC part picker using each of these CPU's

I guess what I essentially want to know is will I get much better performance playing and streaming a CPU heavy game like Arma 3, and is the DDR 4 Quad Channel benefit worth the additional cost and upgrade??

i7-5820k Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Brama/saved/3xytt6

i7-4790k Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Brama/saved/BDn9TW

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Faster few core performance is better for gaming then more slower cores

Its all looks these days

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Strait off the bat, the 5820k can yeild better performance, along side 6 cores and faster Ram speeds (BF4 only so far runs better with faster ram) 

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*This should be reposted under CPU/motherboards*

 

i7-4790k has better single core performance, meaning that it will be a better gaming CPU ~

 

More Ram does not improve game performance, if a game needs 4gb's .... it only need 4gb's :P 

DDR4's faster speeds will eventually make a difference, but current benchmarks are showing 1-2fps in the BEST case. 

 

 

In short, the i7-5820k = 4790k with 2 extra cores 

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Quick edit of your 5820K build. I'm assuming that you're gonna OC that 5820k to 4GHz

 

EDIT: I thought your build had a total of $3531 lol sorry. I'd still go for 1 GTX 970 (better if not equal to 780) or even a 980. Here's a more appropriate build: 

 



 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.97 @ OutletPC) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming GT ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($183.98 @ SuperBiiz) 


Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($187.98 @ SuperBiiz) 


Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 


Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.88 @ OutletPC) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($90.26 @ OutletPC) 

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($264.99 @ Amazon) 

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($264.99 @ Amazon) 

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($135.99 @ Amazon) 

Speakers: Logitech S-150 1.2W 2ch Speakers  ($10.53 @ Amazon) 

Other: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920, 1080p Widescreen Video Calling and Recording ($67.99)

Other: SteelSeries QcK Gaming Mouse Pad (Black) ($9.88)

Other: SteelSeries Rival Optical Gaming Mouse ($52.99)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: A50 WIRELESS SYSTEM PC EDITION ($280.00)

Total: $3306.19

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 20:51 EDT-0400


 


 

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($384.99 @ NCIX US) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-GAMING 5 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($291.99 @ SuperBiiz) 


Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($187.98 @ SuperBiiz) 


Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 



Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.88 @ OutletPC) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($90.26 @ OutletPC) 

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($264.99 @ Amazon) 

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($264.99 @ Amazon) 

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($135.99 @ Amazon) 

Speakers: Logitech S-150 1.2W 2ch Speakers  ($10.53 @ Amazon) 

Other: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920, 1080p Widescreen Video Calling and Recording ($67.99)

Other: SteelSeries QcK Gaming Mouse Pad (Black) ($9.88)

Other: SteelSeries Rival Optical Gaming Mouse ($52.99)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)

Other: A50 WIRELESS SYSTEM PC EDITION ($280.00)

Total: $3597.22

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 20:42 EDT-0400


CPU: Intel i5 4570 | Cooler: Cooler Master TPC 812 | Motherboard: ASUS H87M-PRO | RAM: G.Skill 16GB (4x4GB) @ 1600MHZ | Storage: OCZ ARC 100 480GB, WD Caviar Black 2TB, Caviar Blue 1TB | GPU: Gigabyte GTX 970 | ODD: ASUS BC-12D2HT BR Reader | PSU: Cooler Master V650 | Display: LG IPS234 | Keyboard: Logitech G710+ | Mouse: Logitech G602 | Audio: Logitech Z506 & Audio Technica M50X | My machine: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/b/JoJ

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Quick edit of your 5820K build. I'm assuming that you're gonna OC that 5820k to 4GHz
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.97 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming GT ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($183.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($187.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($82.98 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.88 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($90.26 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($264.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($264.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($135.99 @ Amazon) 
Speakers: Logitech S-150 1.2W 2ch Speakers  ($10.53 @ Amazon) 
Other: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920, 1080p Widescreen Video Calling and Recording ($67.99)
Other: SteelSeries QcK Gaming Mouse Pad (Black) ($9.88)
Other: SteelSeries Rival Optical Gaming Mouse ($52.99)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: A50 WIRELESS SYSTEM PC EDITION ($280.00)
Total: $3306.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 20:51 EDT-0400
 
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($384.99 @ NCIX US) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-GAMING 5 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($291.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($187.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.88 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($90.26 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($264.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($264.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K95 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($135.99 @ Amazon) 
Speakers: Logitech S-150 1.2W 2ch Speakers  ($10.53 @ Amazon) 
Other: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920, 1080p Widescreen Video Calling and Recording ($67.99)
Other: SteelSeries QcK Gaming Mouse Pad (Black) ($9.88)
Other: SteelSeries Rival Optical Gaming Mouse ($52.99)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: NZXT Technologies FX-140 PWM ($13.37)
Other: A50 WIRELESS SYSTEM PC EDITION ($280.00)
Total: $3597.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 20:42 EDT-0400
 

 

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The money you save buying the 4790k build you could buy a second graphics card, more ram or a better AIO (Corsair H105). Also, why not look at the 980 instead of the 780? the price difference isn't that serve for a decent improvement.

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Get the new 970 or 980 they are better in any category than the last gen, and with your budget i would get a 980 or a 970 SLI

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Get the new 970 or 980 they are better in any category than the last gen, and with your budget i would get a 980 or a 970 SLI

 

Yea Im considering a 970 SLI, Just a matter of which 970 model to get. 

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If you want a dead silent system, get the STRIX version from Asus, the fans will stop completely in idle, that's pretty amazing

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Faster few core performance is better for gaming then more slower cores

 

Generally yes, but both CPUs use the exact same architecture and are most likely overclockable to a similar range. There is no benefit to the 4790K that I'm aware of (other than, of course, the lower cost of the Z97 platform).

Sure, maybe the 4790K can get a couple hundred Mhz faster, but an extra 200 Mhz isn't going to make up for the extra cores of the 5820K if the application can use the cores.

i7 not perfectly stable at 4.4.. #firstworldproblems

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Generally yes, but both CPUs use the exact same architecture and are most likely overclockable to a similar range. There is no benefit to the 4790K that I'm aware of (other than, of course, the lower cost of the Z97 platform).

Sure, maybe the 4790K can get a couple hundred Mhz faster, but an extra 200 Mhz isn't going to make up for the extra cores of the 5820K if the application can use the cores.

So would the 5820k be better for Arma 3 then the 4790k

If you want a dead silent system, get the STRIX version from Asus, the fans will stop completely in idle, that's pretty amazing

I put Performance over everything. Silence is Secondary to me. I'm fine with Best Performance with Quiet over Good Performance and Silent

Looking at all the models. The EVGA ACX SC 2.0 looks the best to me. Next to the Gigabyte Windforced. I just prefer the ball bearing fans in the EVGA over the Sleeve in the WIndforce

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i suggest getting the 4790k because you already have a high clock speed and you'll have a higher chance to OC it to 4.7 from 4GHz for example than overclocking the 5820k from 3.3 to 4.7. In games faster clock speed is more important than more cores

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So would the 5820k be better for Arma 3 then the 4790k

 

The most important question will be "are you going to overclock them?". The 5820K's clockspeed is fairly low at stock settings, which could degrade its performance if it's left at those speeds.. That being said, you should be able to easily get it over 4 Ghz, which would really help close the gap in terms of per-core performance.

 

If we're comparing a 4.4 Ghz 5820K to a 4.7 Ghz 4790K (probably both realistic OCs), the 4790K would only be clocked 7% faster, while the 5820K would have 50% more cores.. In workloads that can't take advantage of more than 4 hyperthreaded cores, the 5820K could be marginally (but noticeably) worse than the 4790K. However, in workloads that can take advantage 6 hyperthreaded cores, the 5820K has the potential to be substantially better than the 4790K..

 

In all honesty I'm not a good person to talk to about game streaming or Arma 3 performance, because I have no firsthand experience with either. However, I'm fairly certain that both Arma 3 and streaming to twitch are fairly demanding on the CPU (though Nvidia allows you to do the H.264 encoding directly from the GPU with no performance loss (I haven't done this either)), so there probably would be a noticeable performance improvement with the 5820K.

Video editing will definitely be faster on the 5820K.

i7 not perfectly stable at 4.4.. #firstworldproblems

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I would definitely OC either. Most people are saying go with the 4790k, so I probably with, worst case scenario I just upgrade later in the future.

guess right now my dilemma is whether I should go with 2 970s in SLI or buy one 980 for now and save more money and get another 980 for SLI later. Guess the question is will the $1,100 in 980s SLI be cost effective for performance over $700 for 970s in SLI

The most important question will be "are you going to overclock them?". The 5820K's clockspeed is fairly low at stock settings, which could degrade its performance if it's left at those speeds.. That being said, you should be able to easily get it over 4 Ghz, which would really help close the gap in terms of per-core performance.

If we're comparing a 4.4 Ghz 5820K to a 4.7 Ghz 4790K (probably both realistic OCs), the 4790K would only be clocked 7% faster, while the 5820K would have 50% more cores.. In workloads that can't take advantage of more than 4 hyperthreaded cores, the 5820K could be marginally (but noticeably) worse than the 4790K. However, in workloads that can take advantage 6 hyperthreaded cores, the 5820K has the potential to be substantially better than the 4790K..

In all honesty I'm not a good person to talk to about game streaming or Arma 3 performance, because I have no firsthand experience with either. However, I'm fairly certain that both Arma 3 and streaming to twitch are fairly demanding on the CPU (though Nvidia allows you to do the H.264 encoding directly from the GPU with no performance loss (I haven't done this either)), so there probably would be a noticeable performance improvement with the 5820K.

Video editing will definitely be faster on the 5820K.

I would definitely OC either. Most people are saying go with the 4790k, so I probably with, worst case scenario I just upgrade later in the future.

guess right now my dilemma is whether I should go with 2 970s in SLI or buy one 980 for now and save more money and get another 980 for SLI later. Guess the question is will the $1,100 in 980s SLI be cost effective for performance over $700 for 970s in SLI

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