Anyone still sticking with team red?

[Sammael]

I will probably be alone, but I am a confessed AMD fanboy, and I am still rooting for them.  Our numbers are few, and even our Linus overlords are firmly in the green camp when it comes to personal rigs and preferences, but that is ok, we few can still be our own men.

 

 

But be honest.  How many of you are bolting for those 970s?

 

 

 

[AlwaysFSX]

So far I'm one for each team. Might be going Green though.

[Phllips]

I am                                                                                                                                                             v

[Mateyyy]

The new Nvidia cards look nice, but they won't make me throw away my R9 290.

[Clyne]

Just bought one a few months ago, not looking to upgrade right now, maybe around boxing day

[Phllips]

The 970/980 prices are ridiculous here but by the time i need and can afford a new GPU the 290 might not be available so i dont know what ill do 

[alby800]

Currently team red but when I upgrade next it will be to the 1000 series or the r9 400 series (or whatever the names are going to be) that might change

[Vitalius]

The fact that the 290X trades blows with the 980 in some games at 4K tells me all I need to know. That, plus AMD's tendency to have consistent FPS over potential FPS means I'm going to stick with them as long as that's true because it makes more logical sense imo.

TL;DR about that potential VS consistent thing: It's pointless to judge a GPUs performance by average FPS when the max FPS is rarely hit and just there to inflate the average.

[Deletive]

AMD still pretty owns everything in the price range lower then a 300$ USD. I'll still recommend AMD all the way from 60$ to 300$

I'm bolting for a 970. like ASAP.

[Levent]

nope 

[brownninja97]

At the moment nvidia seems to be better, when amd show their next generation they might be better, im not loyal to either side.

[dizmo]

It really makes no sense to compare a brand new Nvidia card to old AMD stuff.
I'll make the decision when they both have new cards out. Who knows. Maybe AMD will pull ahead.

[knight_40k]

I haven't owned a top tier card from the green teem since the GeForce 7950 GX2. But I'm on a 3yr upgrade cycle so I buy whatever is best in my price range at the time I'm looking.

[gilang01]

Amd fans don't you worry, this is only the beginning of a long fight... Remember amd has a new generation up their sleeves...

[Deletive]

The fact that the 290X trades blows with the 980 in some games at 4K tells me all I need to know. That, plus AMD's tendency to have consistent FPS over potential FPS means I'm going to stick with them as long as that's true because it makes more logical sense imo.

TL;DR about that potential VS consistent thing: It's pointless to judge a GPUs performance by average FPS when the max FPS is rarely hit and just there to inflate the average.

In most real world tests it's really where the FPS sits the most... with the lowest and highest FPS being independent values.

[qwertywarrior]

i will first wait and see what AMD comes with

i really dont want to buy from team green because of the questionable things they do

[Thorium19]

Well I'd rather wait for the gtx 960 to come out before making a choice, but I'm likely to stick with the red team at the moment due to being the best performer at my price point.

[Sammael]

Amd fans don't you worry, this is only the beginning of a long fight... Remember amd has a new generation up their sleeves...

 

 

It's a fight AMD can't win though.  People have extremely strong brand preferences/affinity when it comes to gpus.  Many say they choose based on the merits, but when it comes to their purchase history I'd guess most lean more heavily to one side or the other.  With the latest amd 290 series, those cards were essentially the nvidia 970s of their time, but I think the 780 cards still sold more cards than the 290 variants after they launched.  I don't have data, but even if it's close it tells me that no matter what amd does, brand ID will win out, and 2:1 people prefer what nvidia is selling.

[Epis]

I was really thinking of getting an EVGA 970 because it is only $10 more than the MSI 290 I was looking at, and the 970 is slightly more powerful in most tests. Unfortunately the EVGA 970 has no pretty backplate or free games, unlike the MSI 290. 

[Daniel91]

*rubs my beautiful R9 290X* uless nvidia can go buck to performance no way in hell am I tossing out my R9 290X

[Vitalius]

In most real world tests it's really where the FPS sits the most... with the lowest and highest FPS being independent values.

It's not about where the FPS sits the most. It's about your experience while playing, which all 3 ways to measure the FPS are tied to. That was just one example of why just looking at the average FPS is a terrible way to measure the GPU's performance. It tells you basically nothing about how you are going to experience that gameplay. And that is everything. 

i.e. If I have 50 avg FPS with spikes to 65-75 as the max FPS, it will cause screen tearing fairly often (assuming 60Hz monitor). Adaptive V-Sync would matter here, but then input lag, which is an undesirable. 

Consistency is very important around the 60FPS area because it decides if V-Sync should be on or not and if you will see screen tearing or not. 

[Williamchan87]

I use both RED and GREEN

[nokturrduk84]

I won't lie. I've been always in a green team.

[Deletive]

It's not about where the FPS sits the most. It's about your experience while playing, which all 3 ways to measure the FPS are tied to. That was just one example of why just looking at the average FPS is a terrible way to measure the GPU's performance. It tells you basically nothing about how you are going to experience that gameplay. And that is everything. 

i.e. If I have 50 avg FPS with spikes to 65-75 as the max FPS, it will cause screen tearing fairly often (assuming 60Hz monitor). Adaptive V-Sync would matter here, but then input lag, which is an undesirable. 

Consistency is very important around the 60FPS area because it decides if V-Sync should be on or not and if you will see screen tearing or not. 

But part of that isn't the GPU anymore It's partically on everything else in the build. Sorta of like how AMD cpu's have a lower minimum then Intel CPU's. sure they'll have the same avg framerate but something like that can change how the GPU performs for example.

[AlwaysFSX]

Amd fans don't you worry, this is only the beginning of a long fight... Remember amd has a new generation up their sleeves...

Lol, more water cooling I assume.