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The stock cooler on my G3258 is barely audible, even when under load and I never go above 70 degrees on Prime. This is with a slight overclock to 3.5 ghz and an undervolt to 1v. I could understand how it might be bad for higher TDP CPUs like the AMD FX series, but most mainstream Intel processors are fine with the stock cooler.

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Because people are people. I don't mind the stock cooler, in fact I am using it on my i5 now and it does fine, but people like better.

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The stock cooler on my G3258 is barely audible, even when under load and I never go above 70 degrees on Prime. This is with a slight overclock to 3.5 ghz and an undervolt to 1v. I could understand how it might be bad for higher TDP CPUs like the AMD FX series, but most mainstream Intel processors are fine with the stock cooler.

Because they are very unsightly and on the higher TDP CPU's verry ineffective.

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People 'bash' it because we are an enthusiast commnunity who favour unlocked CPUs, the first thing you do with the cooler in the box of your K chip is replace it if you want to overclock.

 

If you have a locked chip, or a chip you don't want to overclock then the stock cooler is fine.

 

Of course your pentium is OK with a moderate overclock, it has only 2 cores working on it and the same cooler is designed to cope with quads that boost even higher at stock.

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It's because on the higher end cpu's the stock cooler are unable to keep the cpu cool under load.

for instance take my i5-4670K at stock speed and at stock voltages my cpu would hit 95'c or higher under load.
my cpu will under clock it's self at around 80'c meaning it will run slower than stock speed or pc will shut down all together.

If you have a low to mid range cpu like your's then you will not notice any problems using the stock hsf

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Well, intel should at least consider hooking up with cooler master or something to include hyper 212x instead of block of aliminium for high end chips. Rest just sell without.

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Well, intel should at least consider hooking up with cooler master or something to include hyper 212x instead of block of aliminium for high end chips. Rest just sell without.

wouldn't make a difference. It would just increase the retail price, and most of us would still open the box and throw out the 212x

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Well, intel should at least consider hooking up with cooler master or something to include hyper 212x instead of block of aliminium for high end chips. Rest just sell without.

This I agree with whole heartedly, They could also look at teaming up with Astek for liquidcoolers bundled with the Unlocked CPU's?

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Because people are people. I don't mind the stock cooler, in fact I am using it on my i5 now and it does fine, but people like better.

Same here, barely every audible even in game/rendering 13 minutes of 1080p 30fps footage :3 I have a better one too... but im lazy... nuff said... also thermal paste...

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It's because on the higher end cpu's the stock cooler are unable to keep the cpu cool under load.

for instance take my i5-4670K at stock speed and at stock voltages my cpu would hit 95'c or higher under load.

my cpu will under clock it's self at around 80'c meaning it will run slower than stock speed or pc will shut down all together.

If you have a low to mid range cpu like your's then you will not notice any problems using the stock hsf

I think something is wrong with your setup if its that hot... I have the same CPU and it never gets that hot... I do have a big case with three 120mm and 1 140mm fans but they barely ramp up in game.

 

Edit: Mine actually gets to 4.5+GHz with turbo boost when under load and still doesnt get nearly as hot as yours with stock cooler, intel stock coolers are a lot better than AMD stock coolers for the FX series thats for sure!

 

Edit: GeekThief rightly corrected my error I mean 3.5+GHz

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I think something is wrong with your setup if its that hot... I have the same CPU and it never gets that hot... I do have a big case with three 120mm and 1 140mm fans but they barely ramp up in game.

 

Edit: Mine actually gets to 4.5+GHz with turbo boost when under load and still doesnt get nearly as hot as yours with stock cooler, intel stock coolers are a lot better than AMD stock coolers for the FX series thats for sure!

i5-4670K only turbo's to 3.8ghz  <_<

if you can get 4.5Ghz overclock on a stock cooler then you must have won to silicon lottery with your cpu.

my i5 hit's 75'c at 4.5ghz with 1.31Vcore using h100i in push/pull

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Depends. Intel stock cooler's aren't all that bad really, but the one that came with my APU was just too tiny for a 95 watt chip. Especially when the weather was very nice and both the CPU and GPU were pegged, it simply couldn't keep it cold enough at 4000 RPM and the machine would throttle, even at stock clocks. Installing an aftermarket heatsink solved that problem. Even when the CPU is overclocked from 3.7 to 4.3 GHz and the GPU from 720 to 1028 MHz, both with some extra voltage, my pc will not go over 50 degrees C.

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i5-4670K only turbo's to 3.8ghz  <_<

if you can get 4.5Ghz overclock on a stock cooler then you must have won to silicon lottery with your cpu.

my i5 hit's 75'c at 4.5ghz with 1.31Vcore using h100i in push/pull

Oh yea my bad, brain.exe crashed. I meant 3.5GHz . I personally stopped OC'ing as I like having my CPU drop super low when im not doing much as it barely uses any power!

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It's because on the higher end cpu's the stock cooler are unable to keep the cpu cool under load.

for instance take my i5-4670K at stock speed and at stock voltages my cpu would hit 95'c or higher under load.

my cpu will under clock it's self at around 80'c meaning it will run slower than stock speed or pc will shut down all together.

If you have a low to mid range cpu like your's then you will not notice any problems using the stock hsf

 

Something is wrong with your setup if you hit 95deg. at stockspeeds. http://i.imgur.com/2RoJaDk.jpg <- avx prime under the stockcooler.

Also, afaik intel haswells underclock themselves at 100deg.

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Stock coolers are fine unless you are doing a massive oc and want your pc to be silent. Personally the CPU cooler on my 6800k black edition is great, I can even get a bit of an oc in

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The stock cooler on my G3258 is barely audible, even when under load and I never go above 70 degrees on Prime. This is with a slight overclock to 3.5 ghz and an undervolt to 1v. I could understand how it might be bad for higher TDP CPUs like the AMD FX series, but most mainstream Intel processors are fine with the stock cooler.

I use the stock cooler to bash people's brains in?

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The stock cooler on my G3258 is barely audible, even when under load and I never go above 70 degrees on Prime. This is with a slight overclock to 3.5 ghz and an undervolt to 1v. I could understand how it might be bad for higher TDP CPUs like the AMD FX series, but most mainstream Intel processors are fine with the stock cooler.

Your in a situation where your dualcore CAN be cooled just fine by it even with an overclock like yours, your at 70*c.

(Now double those cores)

My Quad 4690 is a different beast altogether, idles very cool however the cooler shows its limitations when under load with a quadcore.

My 4690 INSTANTLY in less than 2 seconds under load... gets to 72*c and climbs to 75*c. It was also quite loud when its around this mark... enough to hear it over the rest of my gear.

 

 

Installed a Hyper212 and now... after weeks,, I've not seen it above 61*c at all when loaded up 95-100% x4....... and no longer can hear it under load.

 

So yeah, depending on peoples needs, they are mostly enough for the job, but way above the comfort levels of most users.

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wouldn't make a difference. It would just increase the retail price, and most of us would still open the box and throw out the 212x

yea, but in that case you dont buy boxed :D

 

or they could include low profile one like 92mm True Spirit . still way cooler and quieter.

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