booting slower over time

[CATSLUVER420]

Why does my pc boot slower over time, it takes at least 1,5secs longer than usual, but I didnt install any additional programs.

[Ialyrn]

Are you using a hard drive or an SSD as your boot drive?

[Vacsol]

any drivers you install are going to increase boot time, and HDD performance deteriorates over time.

[Venusia]

OP I'm guessing you're using a mechanical HDD not an SSD?

[CATSLUVER420]

I have 2xSamsung 840 evo 250GB drives and 1xSamsung 1TB 5400rpm. My OS and main applications are on the first SSD, games like BF4 on the other one, older games and music is on the HDD

[Xquisite]

I have 2xSamsung 840 250GB drives and 1xSamsung 1TB 5400rpm. My OS and main applications are on the first SSD, games like BF4 on the other one, older games and music is on the HDD

Well, on the SSD, did you enable TRIM?

[CATSLUVER420]

Well, on the SSD, did you enable TRIM?

jup, the benchmarks are fine

[CATSLUVER420]

Well, on the SSD, did you enable TRIM?

overall the peformance is better than i thought, everything runs fine, but i am just wondering why it boots a bit longer

[ShadowCaptain]

overall the peformance is better than i thought, everything runs fine, but i am just wondering why it boots a bit longer

 

Check for any startup processes, windows automatic update etc

 

Turn off everything you can

[Venusia]

Which part of the boot is taking longer? The whole thing in general, or is it just taking longer to load once you get to the actual windows screen?

[TheMcSame]

As time goes on drives loose their performance. Not to mention if there's more stuff to load it will take longer to load.

 

[SpyRosL]

If you shut down your pc and after 30 seconds you turn it on,the boot time will be slower than opening it in 5+minutes. Just a heads up.

[Xquisite]

@CATSLUVER420
Try using msconfig.exe(from Start Menu) and turn off all those pesky un-used programs which start automatically at startup. 

[GoodBytes]

Of you unplug the HDD, does your boot time improves?

[Builder]

That's Windows for you

 

Did you check startup?

[GoodBytes]

That's Windows for you

That is not Windows. Windows optimizes boot process over time. It supposed to go faster.

The problem is, as it is boot, and not login time, a driver or hardware issue.

[CATSLUVER420]

Which part of the boot is taking longer? The whole thing in general, or is it just taking longer to load once you get to the actual windows screen?

the part with the Win8 circle where it gets loaded

[Builder]

That is not Windows. Windows optimizes boot process over time. It supposed to go faster.

The problem is, as it is boot, and not login time, a driver or hardware issue.

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6122_102-584463/why-do-all-window-systems-slow-down-over-time/

 

It's inevitable. It happens, though to a lesser extent, in Unix-based operating systems too. The registry fills up with errors, programs install themselves to Startup, more programs get installed, etc.

[GoodBytes]

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6122_102-584463/why-do-all-window-systems-slow-down-over-time/

 

It's inevitable. It happens, though to a lesser extent, in Unix-based operating systems too. The registry fills up with errors, programs install themselves to Startup, more programs get installed, etc.

Yea, but that is not Windows, that is the user. Startup programs are execute at account load time, not when Windows boots up, as mentioned.

And, when Windows boots up, it loads itself, and if you don't have a fully supported UEFI motherboard and OS, the OS will detect the hardware of the system, as it doesn't know what the BIOS detected a moment ago (retarded).

So, in the OP case, I think the culprit is the HDD, which is only 5400RPM, and probably is very fragmented, as he never let the system defragment it (probably the system is off, at the default time the system is set to execute a system wide defrag on HDDs, or he disabled it completely), or he installed a craply made driver.

[Builder]

So, in the OP case, I think the culprit is the HDD, which is only 5400RPM, and probably is very fragmented, as he never let the system defragment it (probably the system is off, at the default time the system is set to execute a system wide defrag on HDDs, or he disabled it completely), or he installed a craply made driver.

I know when startup programs are executed, I've used Windows far longer than any of my current OSes. Why isn't it a Windows flaw to let programs default to startup and use a file system that requires defragmentation?

 

OP, defrag your drive and check your Startup folder. Go to Startup in task manager if you're on Windows 8.1.

[GoodBytes]

I know when startup programs are executed, I've used Windows far longer than any of my current OSes. Why isn't it a Windows flaw to let programs default to startup and use a file system that requires defragmentation?

How is having startup program an OS flaw? Startup programs is important to allow resume installation process, if needed by the program, and execution of background process that user might want. Say, your anti-virus, your instant messaging program. Now, if you, as a user, install crap, or craply made software, then this is out of Microsoft hands. That's the downside of having the liberality to install what you want, when you want, where you want, and not be jailed in like some other OSs.

Also, every file system, needs defragmentation. It is a miss conception that you don't. While true, that other file systems have been shown to reduce fragmentation a bit, it's been shown that Microsoft approach allows you to get the best performance. If you are going to defrag regardless, then might as well.

[KemoKa]

Get rid of your bloatware, startup programs, etc, enable trim, and set your system to performance.

If it's one of those SSDs where performance decreases over time, you might want to replace it with an MX100 or something along those lines. Something that's wear-resistant.

Other than that, there's nothing wrong with the SSD. If an SSD fails, it will be sudden and instantaneous.

[Builder]

How is having startup program an OS flaw? Startup programs is important to allow resume installation process, if needed by the program, and execution of background process that user might want. Say, your anti-virus, your instant messaging program. Now, if you, as a user, install crap, or craply made software, then this is out of Microsoft hands. That's the downside of having the liberality to install what you want, when you want, where you want, and not be jailed in like some other OSs.

Also, every file system, needs defragmentation. It is a miss conception that you don't. While true, that other file systems have been shown to reduce fragmentation a bit, it's been shown that Microsoft approach allows you to get the best performance. If you are going to defrag regardless, then might as well.

OS X and Linux allow startup programs too. I'm saying it's idiotic that Microsoft allows programs to put themselves in startup without telling you.

 

Do you have evidence for your sweeping claims about the superiority of the NTFS filesystem? Because there are many who would disagree with you.

[GoodBytes]

Do you have evidence for your sweeping claims about the superiority of the NTFS filesystem? Because there are many who would disagree with you.

NTFS, FAT, and exFAT uses an "write where the head is" approach on HDDs. It is faster than starting to measure, locate, and allocating blocks surrounding data, to try an reduce defragmentation.

Its not rocket science. Beside with SSD, fragmentation is a non issue. In fact, SSD purposefully fragment data to evenly use each nand. So the extra work done by other file systems is completely useless for SSDs, and forcing defragmentation provide 0 performance boost on an SSD. I tried it. Not even in benchmark you get anything.

[KemoKa]

How is having startup program an OS flaw? Startup programs is important to allow resume installation process, if needed by the program, and execution of background process that user might want. Say, your anti-virus, your instant messaging program. Now, if you, as a user, install crap, or craply made software, then this is out of Microsoft hands. That's the downside of having the liberality to install what you want, when you want, where you want, and not be jailed in like some other OSs.

Also, every file system, needs defragmentation. It is a miss conception that you don't. While true, that other file systems have been shown to reduce fragmentation a bit, it's been shown that Microsoft approach allows you to get the best performance. If you are going to defrag regardless, then might as well.

Don't try to argue with him about Windows. He hates it's guts more than anything else and always references how awful it is. I found this out the easy way, by pressing his Apple buttons, and it was quite spectacular.

Filesystems need defragging in HDDs, but in SSDs the lookup cache and the seek times are so fast that rearranging stuff on the drives affects performance negligibly at best and only serves to lower the life of the chips, as there's a lot of heavy write cycles going on there.