will a single xeon x5650 at 4ghz bottleneck 2 gtx 770s ?

[Manny Calavera]

I'm not talking about the topic, you are the one who brought the FX8 into the conversation and I quickly shot you down that more cores does not always equal more performance.  You are a scatter-brained nitwit who is spamming the forum.  Be gone with you peasant.

its multithreading question. 

 

workload is threaded, so more cores do help. 8350 was just an example that you can use them and isnt representative of power at all. 

 

it wont bottleneck. we just got mixed up in 8350 talk  

[seiny]

That xeons performance isn't so good in single threaded applications, it should serve you fairly well for a while though, 6 cores wont do anything really unless you're doing video editing or content creation, an i5 4590 or even i3 4150 would perform better in single threaded applications which is just about every app/game etc.

[alihazzi7]

I'm not talking about the topic, you are the one who brought the FX8 into the conversation and I quickly shot you down that more cores does not always equal more performance. You are a scatter-brained nitwit who is spamming the forum. Be gone with you peasant.

First of all I "brought" the FX-8350 CPU in the topic because i wanted to know how good a 4 year old XEON comes next to an, year old 8 core chip, if you are so grate full in your self by reading other people saying something to me and joining in, go ahead but don't "zig zag" around, calling me a peassant ay ? well king king henry the viii, why dont you get your fat ass of the internet and go to the gym.

That xeons performance isn't so good in single threaded applications, it should serve you fairly well for a while though, 6 cores wont do anything really unless you're doing video editing or content creation, an i5 4590 or even i3 4150 would perform better in single threaded applications which is just about every app/game etc.

how long do you think the xeon i have will last before upgrading to an haswell chip ?

[juretrn]

Petty insults yeahhhhh

[Manny Calavera]

---an i5 4590 or even i3 4150 would perform better in single threaded applications which is just about every game etc.

no.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/192389-the-8-core-showdown-and-analysis-thread/

 

EDIT: FAIL, games ounly use 4 cores.

[Faceman]

First of all I "brought" the FX-8350 CPU in the topic because i wanted to know how good a 4 year old XEON comes next to an, year old 8 core chip, if you are so grate full in your self by reading other people saying something to me and joining in, go ahead but don't "zig zag" around, calling me a peassant ay ? well king king henry the viii, why dont you get your fat ass of the internet and go to the gym.

The FX processor is older than the Xeon. The FX is from 2009 because it was first designed as a server chip and later transformed into a desktop processor. The architecture is from 2009. The Xeon came out in 2010.

no.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/192389-the-8-core-showdown-and-analysis-thread/

Do not quote that post, it is an incredibly flawed study that he did. Just because Task Manager shows all cores being utilized, doesn't mean they really are. Games do not utilize hyperthreading, and don't utilize more than 4 threads except for 3 games.

We are a long way off until games start to be able to utilize more than 2/4 threads.

[Faa]

no.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/192389-the-8-core-showdown-and-analysis-thread/

I've explained the flaws in detail in that thread, take your time to read it and it's invalid to use as an argument that 8350's are as fast as i5's. 

[Manny Calavera]

Do not quote that post, it is an incredibly flawed study that he did.  Just because Task Manager shows all cores being utilized, doesn't mean they really are.  Games do not utilize hyperthreading, and don't utilize more than 4 threads except for 3 games.

 

We are a long way off until games start to be able to utilize more than 2/4 threads.

Thanks for heads up.

[Timopomer]

AMD4LYFE DIDNT READ

[Manny Calavera]

AMD4LYFE DIDNT READ

LOL no need to, i tell you

make sure you disable odd cores for gaming only with FX to enhance perf. sum up, games dont use more than 4 cores. 

[alihazzi7]

LOL no need to, i tell you

make sure you disable odd cores for gaming only with FX to enhance perf. sum up, games dont use more than 4 cores. 

yes you are right  

[Gala]

yes you are right  

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[Manny Calavera]

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[Timopomer]

LOL no need to, i tell you

make sure you disable odd cores for gaming only with FX to enhance perf. sum up, games dont use more than 4 cores. 

 

disabling 4 cores will make the 4 other perform better ._.

[Manny Calavera]

disabling 4 cores will make the 4 other perform better ._.

yes, disabling 1 core in each module will make it perform better in games

[harrynowl]

yes, disabling 1 core in each module will make it perform better in games

Correct. When both alu clusters are active in a module it will be ~80% efficient in multi-core programs. I saw a 20% boost in cinebench scores by using "4c/4t" over "2c/4t".

 

fx4300 "quad": http://hwbot.org/submission/2519218_shrimpbrime_cinebench_r11.5_fx_4300_5.2_points

 

fx8320 "true quad": http://hwbot.org/submission/2561676_harrynowl_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8320_5.23_points

[Manny Calavera]

Correct. When both alu clusters are active in a module it will be ~80% efficient in multi-core programs. I saw a 20% boost in cinebench scores by using "4c/4t" over "2c/4t".

 

fx4300 "quad": http://hwbot.org/submission/2519218_shrimpbrime_cinebench_r11.5_fx_4300_5.2_points

 

fx8320 "true quad": http://hwbot.org/submission/2561676_harrynowl_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8320_5.23_points

Lol, i knew 4300 is whack, but when you look at this benchmarks... jeez. How about athlon?

[harrynowl]

Lol, i knew 4300 is whack, but when you look at this benchmarks... jeez. How about athlon?

well my phenom x4 965@4.2 got 5.25 points athlon probably very close to 4300 but has no l3

here's my 5600k score (basically same cpu as a 750k): http://hwbot.org/submission/2607853_harrynowl_cinebench_r11.5_a8_5600k_4.31_points

 

 

k10 athlons + phenoms whooping fx:

 

 

[Timopomer]

Correct. When both alu clusters are active in a module it will be ~80% efficient in multi-core programs. I saw a 20% boost in cinebench scores by using "4c/4t" over "2c/4t".

 

fx4300 "quad": http://hwbot.org/submission/2519218_shrimpbrime_cinebench_r11.5_fx_4300_5.2_points

 

fx8320 "true quad": http://hwbot.org/submission/2561676_harrynowl_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8320_5.23_points

do you recommend me doing so ? can it cause any damage?

[harrynowl]

do you recommend me doing so ? can it cause any damage?

No damage, but not all motherboards support it. My M5A97 EVO R2.0 could only disable full modules, however my Gigabyte 970-UD3P could disable 1 core in each module.

 

You could get significant single threaded gains if you do, and maybe better overclocking.

[Timopomer]

No damage, but not all motherboards support it. My M5A97 EVO R2.0 could only disable full modules, however my Gigabyte 970-UD3P could disable 1 core in each module.

 

You could get significant single threaded gains if you do, and maybe better overclocking.

 

ill take a look,i have a m5a97 r2.0...wonder if it can - prolly not 

[harrynowl]

ill take a look,i have a m5a97 r2.0...wonder if it can - prolly not 

It'll be in advanced tab->cpu core control if it is

[Timopomer]

It'll be in advanced tab->cpu core control if it is

ill check to night,but why is disabling a core,make the other ones faster ._.

[Faceman]

ill check to night,but why is disabling a core,make the other ones faster ._.

Because the FX processor is not a true 8 core CPU.  It shares resources, namely floating point units(FPU) which is very important in a lot of tasks.  Basically it is 1 FPU per 2 "cores" and this severely limits the performance.  By disabling the odd cores, it becomes 1 FPU per 1 Core and improves performance.

[Timopomer]

Because the FX processor is not a true 8 core CPU.  It shares resources, namely floating point units(FPU) which is very important in a lot of tasks.  Basically it is 1 FPU per 2 "cores" and this severely limits the performance.  By disabling the odd cores, it becomes 1 FPU per 1 Core and improves performance.

if i can ill test it,hope it helps me in older engined games