Which processor for streaming?

[c97hristian]

I'm in the process of building a new pc and I've started streaming.

My old computer can stream decently but its a bit unstable and isn't delivering the performance I seek.

Old:

i7-860 @2.8 GHz

8GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @664MHz (9-9-9-24)

Dell shitty stock motherboard

2GB GTX 770

1.2TB HDD

 

I want to be able to stream in 1080p in either 60 or 120 fps if possible. So what kind of processor do it require and does RAM speed and timings have any influence? What specs have the most impact on the performance?

New system so far:

i5-4690k

16GB 1866MHz

Samsung 840 EVO 500GB

WD Black 1TB

Fractal Design Define R4

Corsair RM750 Modular

H100i CPU Cooler

[Sky Daddy]

ram timings/speed aren't going to make a difference, but i'd go for 1600mhz+ speeds

[TheProfosist]

Get a 6 core use processor affinity to lock the game to 4 core or less if it uses less then lock the other cores to your steaming application.

[c97hristian]

Get a 6 core use processor affinity to lock the game to 4 core or less if it uses less then lock the other cores to your steaming application.

Can you recommend a few 6 core processors?

[TheProfosist]

Can you recommend a few 6 core processors?

X99 just launched so 5820K or 5930K. You might be able to find some X79 stuff on the cheap now though so look for a 3930K or 4930K.

[c97hristian]

X99 just launched so 5820K or 5930K. You might be able to find some X79 stuff on the cheap now though so look for a 3930K or 4930K.

I've checked the price for both of them and they seem a bit to expensive. Any hexa core cheaper on the red side?

[TheProfosist]

I've checked the price for both of them and they seem a bit to expensive. Any hexa core cheaper on the red side?

Look at the 5820K that should be enough for you and is right around $400. this is all if your going to be doing CPU streaming. to see the least impact on your gaming play if your on more of a budget you may want to look into opther options like GPU assisted or other cards/boxes. I guess it depends on how much your looking to spend.

Significantly but the cores wont have the needed power to do what I am suggesting. You could look into the aging FX platform like the 8350 or all the various 8 cores they offer. OC it as far as you can and give the encoder 2 of teh 8 and see what happens it may not be enough for it. I have never tested what i am suggesting on the newer AMD architectures with the partial cores.

[c97hristian]

Look at the 5820K that should be enough for you and is right around $400. this is all if your going to be doing CPU streaming. to see the least impact on your gaming play if your on more of a budget you may want to look into opther options like GPU assisted or other cards/boxes. I guess it depends on how much your looking to spend.

Significantly but the cores wont have the needed power to do what I am suggesting. You could look into the aging FX platform like the 8350 or all the various 8 cores they offer. OC it as far as you can and give the encoder 2 of teh 8 and see what happens it may not be enough for it. I have never tested what i am suggesting on the newer AMD architectures with the partial cores.

Can I just buy another gtx 770 and use that for streaming? I rather invest more money in some more gpu power that I could use in more demanding games when I'm not streaming

[Faa]

Can I just buy another gtx 770 and use that for streaming? I rather invest more money in some more gpu power that I could use in more demanding games when I'm not streaming

Uhm Shadowplay has completely nothing to do with SLI and your cpu is a bottleneck for two 770's. Shadowplay has no impact on your performance by the way but the quality isn't that great and its limited to 720p atm but you can use OBS that supports nvidia's encoder as well so it practically has the same advantages as Shadowplay but just more advanced settings and you can stream in 1080 at 60fps.

If you don't want to sacrifice quality, you'd be better off streaming with the CPU and you kinda need a 5820K to stream 1080p at 60 fps. Drop that 500GB SSD and H100i. Get a cheap case 20$ case aslong as it fits, get a 5820K boxed one (stick with the stock cooler for awhile), get a cheap value 4GB stick or two of them and the cheapest X99 board.

[Timopomer]

OBS uses nvidea accelerated streaming , its uses the gpu to encode i think

[Timopomer]

Uhm Shadowplay has completely nothing to do with SLI and your cpu is a bottleneck for two 770's. Shadowplay has no impact on your performance by the way but the quality isn't that great and its limited to 720p atm but you can use OBS that supports nvidia's encoder as well so it practically has the same advantages as Shadowplay but just more advanced settings and you can stream in 1080 at 60fps.

If you don't want to sacrifice quality, you'd be better off streaming with the CPU and you kinda need a 5820K to stream 1080p at 60 fps. Drop that 500GB SSD and H100i. Get a cheap case 20$ case aslong as it fits, get a 5820K boxed one (stick with the stock cooler for awhile), get a cheap value 4GB stick or two of them and the cheapest X99 board.

why are you recommending him an overkill 2011-3 processor for this? even a 8350 is fine for most streaming. (at least for me)

[Faa]

why are you recommending him an overkill 2011-3 processor for this? even a 8350 is fine for most streaming. (at least for me)

Because he wants to stream in 1080p at 60 fps? A 8350 isn't going to cut that. The 5820K goes for 300$ at Microcenter though: http://www.microcenter.com/product/437203/Core_i7-5820k_33_GHz_LGA_2011_V3_Tray_Processor

[c97hristian]

Uhm Shadowplay has completely nothing to do with SLI and your cpu is a bottleneck for two 770's. Shadowplay has no impact on your performance by the way but the quality isn't that great and its limited to 720p atm but you can use OBS that supports nvidia's encoder as well so it practically has the same advantages as Shadowplay but just more advanced settings and you can stream in 1080 at 60fps.

If you don't want to sacrifice quality, you'd be better off streaming with the CPU and you kinda need a 5820K to stream 1080p at 60 fps. Drop that 500GB SSD and H100i. Get a cheap case 20$ case aslong as it fits, get a 5820K boxed one (stick with the stock cooler for awhile), get a cheap value 4GB stick or two of them and the cheapest X99 board.

I won't sacrifice that much for better a better CPU. Is a i5-4690k a bottleneck for 2 gtx 770 in SLI?

[c97hristian]

Because he wants to stream in 1080p at 60 fps? A 8350 isn't going to cut that. The 5820K goes for 300$ at Microcenter though: http://www.microcenter.com/product/437203/Core_i7-5820k_33_GHz_LGA_2011_V3_Tray_Processor

I don't live in the states though and a 5820k cost around 550$

[Faa]

Is a i5-4690k a bottleneck for 2 gtx 770 in SLI?

 

No but if you're streaming you're not taking any advantage of a 2nd 770 obviously with a 4670k.

 

I won't sacrifice that much for better a better CPU. 

 

If you want to stream 1080p at 60 fps, a 4670k isn't going to cut this and forget 120 fps, you preferably get a 5820k. Microcenter sells the 5820K for 300$ so pick one up there.  There's not much of a point getting a RM750 by the way, you only need a 550W for a single GPU setup.

 

 

I don't live in the states though and a 5820k cost around 550$

Ah right, well can you afford a i7 4770k?

[c97hristian]

If you want to stream 1080p at 60 fps, a 4670k isn't going to cut this and forget 120 fps, you preferably get a 5820k. Microcenter sells the 5820K for 300$ so pick one up there.  There's not much of a point getting a RM750 by the way, you only need a 550W for a single GPU setup.

I'm getting the 750 to be able to upgrade with a second gpu and I want my power supply to be relevant for a long time. Someone earlier in this thread talked about using a gpu to do the streaming and take the load off the CPU. Is it possible to have a 4690k and two gtx 770, one to do the game and one to do the streaming?

[c97hristian]

 

No but if you're streaming you're not taking any advantage of a 2nd 770 obviously with a 4670k.

 

 

If you want to stream 1080p at 60 fps, a 4670k isn't going to cut this and forget 120 fps, you preferably get a 5820k. Microcenter sells the 5820K for 300$ so pick one up there.  There's not much of a point getting a RM750 by the way, you only need a 550W for a single GPU setup.

 

 

 

Ah right, well can you afford a i7 4770k?

 

I'm getting the 750 to be able to upgrade with a second gpu and I want my power supply to be relevant for a long time. Someone earlier in this thread talked about using a gpu to do the streaming and take the load off the CPU. Is it possible to have a 4690k and two gtx 770, one to do the game and one to do the streaming?

 

I can afford a i7 4770k

[alihazzi7]

Can you recommend a few 6 core processors?

dont keep the mobo get a gigabyte ga x58a ud3r 2.0 get a  get a xeon x5650 6 cores 12 thereads same as the 980x but its only 50 pounds like 80 usd 

[Faa]

I'm getting the 750 to be able to upgrade with a second gpu and I want my power supply to be relevant for a long time. 

 

The EVGA 750 G2 costs less, better build quality & electrical performance, uses japanese caps for the secondary, is fully modular as well and the fan turns off at low loads and comes with a 10 years warranty.

 

Someone earlier in this thread talked about using a gpu to do the streaming and take the load off the CPU. 

At the cost of some quality. You have two options to load it off the CPU to somewhere else;

- Intel Quicksync (the integrated GPU in the CPU)

- NVENC (GTX 770 eg)

 

Is it possible to have a 4690k and two gtx 770, one to do the game and one to do the streaming?

 

Let me explain; take a gtx 770 -> you see a GPU core and you'll see a special encoder chip. They are separated, Shadowplay (or OBS) uses this encoder chip and theyre capable of streaming 1080p 60 fps quite easily but the quality is significantly lower than the CPU but you can counter this by increasing the bitrate aslong as your uploadspeed allows this.

There's no point running a game on one 770, and the other 770 is only streaming.

Forget SLI or two gtx 770's for a second. When I start streaming with nvidia, my fps is exactly the same - just no difference. Use the 2nd 770 for SLI mode obviously

 

 

I can afford a i7 4770k

You decided to stream with the GPU's instead, no reason to get the 4770k then.

[c97hristian]

keep your mobo get a xeon x5650 6 cores 12 thereads same as the 980x but its only 50 pounds like 80 usd 

My old system is very outdated and I'm going to build a completely new system

[c97hristian]

 

The EVGA 750 G2 costs less, better build quality & electrical performance, uses japanese caps for the secondary, is fully modular as well and the fan turns off at low loads and comes with a 10 years warranty.

 

At the cost of some quality. You have two options to load it off the CPU to somewhere else;

- Intel Quicksync (the integrated GPU in the CPU)

- NVENC (GTX 770 eg)

 

 

Let me explain; take a gtx 770 -> you see a GPU core and you'll see a special encoder chip. They are separated, Shadowplay (or OBS) uses this encoder chip and theyre capable of streaming 1080p 60 fps quite easily but the quality is significantly lower than the CPU but you can counter this by increasing the bitrate aslong as your uploadspeed allows this.

There's no point running a game on one 770, and the other 770 is only streaming.

Forget SLI or two gtx 770's for a second. When I start streaming with nvidia, my fps is exactly the same - just no difference. Use the 2nd 770 for SLI mode obviously

 

 

You decided to stream with the GPU's instead, no reason to get the 4770k then.

 

I think my uploadspeed will allow it

http://www.speedtest.net/result/3724244628.png

[alihazzi7]

My old system is very outdated and I'm going to build a completely new system

If you have money go for the new 5960x 16gb ram 3 way 780ti, if you dont have money go for something like an i7 4790k 16gb ram and buy another 770

[Faa]

I think my uploadspeed will allow it

http://www.speedtest.net/result/3724244628.png

Lol that should be fine Ignore alihazzi7 btw

[c97hristian]

Lol that should be fine Ignore alihazzi7 btw

I'm going to stream on twitch and I think they limit the bitrate to 3500, but it should be fine right?

[Faa]

I'm going to stream on twitch and I think they limit the bitrate to 3500, but it should be fine right?

They don't have any limitation on bitrate if I'm not mistaken.