Hardware limitations

[Shadow Gamer]

Will my PC be able to run Star Citizen? And if so, what framerates/setting will it be able to run it at? 

 

Here's my PC: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ffkfhM (The parts may seem like odd choices now but there used to be lots of combo's and they were cheaper)

I have a 900p monitor, but may upgrade to a 1080p one soon. 

[Speedbird]

Probably not. You would need something like an R9 GPU to run it, and you have a previous gen APU.

[Shadow Gamer]

Not even at 30 FPS? 

[Nico123473]

here! check it out

 

http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=5490&game=Star+Citizen&p_make=AMD&p_deriv=APU+A10-6790K+Quad-Core&gc_make=ATI&gc_deriv=Radeon+HD+8670D&ram=8&screenRes_width_FPS=1920&screenRes_height_FPS=1080&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements

[Enderman]

No. Minimum requirements are a decent graphics card like a GTX460...

[hiyayhi]

That depends, do you like playing games as a slide show?

star citizen is probably going to be a similar release to crysis, running it at max settings will not be possible until another couple of gpu releases and running it at all will require a beefy system.

[Caito]

No without a discrete graphics card I don't see you being able to run the game.

[BaSkA]

You need a GPU

Save some money and you'll be able to play at low settings with a good 2010~2011 GPU.

[Shadow Gamer]

You need a GPU

Save some money and you'll be able to play at low settings with a good 2010~2011 GPU.

I (may) be getting a r9 280 in a few months

 

And I think me IGPU will beat a 2010-2011 GPU...

[solarflare]

They said mantel will be eventually part of it . so something like a 280 or 280x even could likely run fine it when they add mantel , with mantel on my 7970 in my htpc runs BF4 for instance ultra/high at well above 60fps - Closer to ranging 90-105fps average. 

 

my 290x performed slightly better then that prior to me crossfiring them but not a whole lot more surprisingly the 7970 with a mild/highish oc was actually quite competitive to it. 

 

So all that said if i you cant afford a 400$ 290 a 200-250$ 280 or a 300$ 280X could do nicely as a substitute so long as they do add mantel. 

[BaSkA]

I (may) be getting a r9 280 in a few months

 

And I think me IGPU will beat a 2010-2011 GPU...

 

That's great! With the R9 280 you'll definitely be able to play that game.

 

About your integrated Radeon 8670D, I don't think it'll perform better than a 2010 GPU... Just think about: even if the discrete video card is old(and maybe older), it has it's own memory which is probably bigger and faster, bigger/larger bandwidth, has it's own cooling and the GPU itself only has to deal with graphic calculations, nothing else if I'm not mistaken.

 

Have a look at this chart, if your iGPU is the best ranked Radeon 8670D, it has a worse score than some old boys like these...

 

Good luck anyway!

[Shadow Gamer]

They said mantel will be eventually part of it . so something like a 280 or 280x even could likely run fine it when they add mantel , with mantel on my 7970 in my htpc runs BF4 for instance ultra/high at well above 60fps - Closer to ranging 90-105fps average. 

 

my 290x performed slightly better then that prior to me crossfiring them but not a whole lot more surprisingly the 7970 with a mild/highish oc was actually quite competitive to it. 

 

So all that said if i you cant afford a 400$ 290 a 200-250$ 280 or a 300$ 280X could do nicely as a substitute so long as they do add mantel. 

I'm very, very broke at the moment, can barely afford a SSD. 

 

I honestly only want to play on medium at 45 FPS, so I think the 280 will do me just fine. 

[solarflare]

280s are great cards 

If it was me id skip the SSD for videocard upgrades in the short term. 

 

your load times will be slightly longer but gameplay will not suffer fps. 

 

i would go with a 600 Watt psu for this build btw cuz 450 is pushing your luck. 

 

280s also oc well too and can outperform stock 280X's when oc'ed mildly so thats also something you can sort of count on with any of the dual/tripple fan cooler models available , Id avoid gigabyte 280's atm I love my 7970 Giga OC WF3 but the revisions after mine on both 7970-7950's are voltage locked which prevents great oc's. 

 

If it was me 

 

Id Get the 280 - get a 600-750 watt psu -  skip the SSD for now - As for HDD's i've had tons of Blues and greens and even some Black WD's die here where i work 

I used to buy Hitachi drives alot and have had super super low fail rates and solid performance from them. 

 

the Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB 3.5 Drives seem to be continuing that kind of performance and quality the hitachi lines started If i was buying a new 1tb id probably get that drive over a blue just personal preference. 

 

then later down the road when you get 150 ish $ get a 240GB SSD and ghost over the OS and use the 1tb for extra storage and non demanding or super large games. 

[Shadow Gamer]

. your load times will be slightly longer but gameplay will not suffer fps. 

 

i would go with a 600 Watt psu for this build btw cuz 450 is pushing your luck. 

 

If it was me 

 

then later down the road when you get 150 ish $ get a 240GB SSD and ghost over the OS and use the 1tb for extra storage and non demanding or super large games. 

There's significant stuttering in my games, I think the SSD will help.

 

I don't have a budget for a PSU, and rewiring everything is going to be the pain. 

 

I don't have the budget for that big a SSD... I'm really broke right now, I'm not legally allowed to get a job, if you're going to suggest that. 

[solarflare]

SSD will only help with load times. 

 

any FPS stuttering will not be alleviated with a SSD as the two do not correlate  .. fair warning. 

[rentaspoon]

SSD will only help with load times.

any FPS stuttering will not be alleviated with a SSD as the two do not correlate .. fair warning.

Trust me stuttering can be from slow HDD not just loading times

Had that myself

[Shadow Gamer]

SSD will only help with load times. 

 

any FPS stuttering will not be alleviated with a SSD as the two do not correlate  .. fair warning. 

Sometimes FPS is around 40 and I still get stuttering. I think it's a networking and HDD problem together. 

[carolkarine]

sometimes your FPS monitor won't make it obvious that you're stuttering. I think it's your CPU actually, the APUs are NOT known for their strong CPU performance.

[Shadow Gamer]

sometimes your FPS monitor won't make it obvious that you're stuttering. I think it's your CPU actually, the APUs are NOT known for their strong CPU performance.

4 cores and 4GHz. 

[carolkarine]

4 cores and 4GHz. 

 

yes, but compared to my 3570K and 3.5 ghz, it's a pile of shit.

 

the "speed" of a processor (as in, it's clock rate) does NOT allow you to proclaim it as a fast processor. AMD APUs are inherently slow, because their architecture is slow.

 

I'll admit, it probably seems perfectly snappy in desktop applications. but as soon as you're gaming, the difference is phenomenal.

[solarflare]

A proper GPU will likely fix his microstutters. 

a nice OC of that CPU would help with cpu bottlenecks. 

 

I have multiple SSD based pc's and a HDD based pc aswell Ive never seen stuttering on any of them in anything and the HDD machine runs everything all the rest can run. 

 

The only thing i could see a HDD based PC causing stuttering on is games like Half Life that load the map as you walk through it. 

 

haven't seen any games like that in a long while since Memory modules are much larger now most games just heavily cache map into the memory. 

[Shadow Gamer]

I'll admit, it probably seems perfectly snappy in desktop applications. but as soon as you're gaming, the difference is phenomenal.

So the architecture of AMD APU's is different from AMD's CPU's? Huh. Didn't know that. 

[Shadow Gamer]

a nice OC of that CPU would help with cpu bottlenecks. 

Hello no, the thing runs at 50C on idle. The GPU may help, though, I've been told. 

[carolkarine]

So the architecture of AMD APU's is different from AMD's CPU's? Huh. Didn't know that. 

 

some are. and even then, AMD's desktop CPUs are not equal to Intel's. AMD's 8350 is about equivalent to a slightly UNDERCLOCKED 2500K. that's a 2-gen-old processor from intel, that's been underclocked. HOWEVER, that's on a single-threaded workload. in anything multi-threaded the 8350 would win. Your APU is less powerful than a FX 4300, a VERY entry level CPU from AMD.

 

HOWEVER! look at your CPU usage and your GPU usage while you're getting stuttering. tell us which (if either) is maxed out.

[Shadow Gamer]

some are. and even then, AMD's desktop CPUs are not equal to Intel's. 

Isn't that common knowledge? 

 

My usage is just fine, it only maxes out when I run 3DMark.