How fast would a normal SATA SSD be if somehow hacked to work with PCI?

[Zinko]

if someone somehow hacked a modern SSD to work with PCI (if possible), how fast would it be?

i have done some prior research but i couldn't find anything, Although im pretty sure it isn't possible.

But if it was, will the SATA III bottlenecks go away?

[bob345]

it would still be limited by the controller on the ssd

[Aniallation]

if someone somehow hacked a modern SSD to work with PCI (if possible), how fast would it be?

i have done some prior research but i couldn't find anything, Although im pretty sure it isn't possible.

But if it was, will the SATA III bottlenecks go away?

There's always PCI SATA cards

[KemoKa]

Impossible unless you are using M.2 SSDs. Plextor's SSDs are just passthroughs for an M.2 card, and those operate over the PCIe bus anyway.

Everything depends on the controller. If it is a SATA controller, it's limited to SATA III, and if it is a PCIe controller... well, it will be in a PCIe slot.

Sorry to disappoint...

[Zinko]

There's always PCI SATA cards

PCI and SATA are two different kinds of connections.

[Zinko]

it would still be limited by the controller on the ssd

but have we meet the limits of the controller, or just the limits of the actual NAND chips

[KemoKa]

if someone somehow hacked a modern SSD to work with PCI (if possible), how fast would it be?

i have done some prior research but i couldn't find anything, Although im pretty sure it isn't possible.

But if it was, will the SATA III bottlenecks go away?

You can't but one thing you could do to massively boost performance is get multiple SSDs and put them in RAID 0. That will stripe them all together and use all the controllers at once, theoretically(Theoretically) the performance of all the drives. It's risky though. if one drive goes, they all go.

[Trik'Stari]

You can't but one thing you could do to massively boost performance is get multiple SSDs and put them in RAID 0. That will stripe them all together and use all the controllers at once, theoretically(Theoretically) the performance of all the drives. It's risky though. if one drive goes, they all go.

Slick or Linus (can't remember which) said that doing that is basically suicide.

[KemoKa]

but have we meet the limits of the controller, or just the limits of the actual NAND chips

you need fast controllers and NAND chips do have limits. SSDs consist of multiple NAND cells in RAID 0. They're basically tons of flash drives working at the same time as one disk. The more chips you have, the faster your potential speed, and you need really powerful controllers (with literal heatsinks on them) to run them that quickly. Look up OCz's Revodrives and you'll see what I mean.

[Zinko]

Impossible unless you are using M.2 SSDs. Plextor's SSDs are just passthroughs for an M.2 card, and those operate over the PCIe bus anyway.

Everything depends on the controller. If it is a SATA controller, it's limited to SATA III, and if it is a PCIe controller... well, it will be in a PCIe slot.

Sorry to disappoint...

so there is no way someone could reprogram the NAND to communicate with a separate external controller?

[KemoKa]

Slick or Linus (can't remember which) said that doing that is basically suicide.

hence the risky bit. You should only do it if you have a death wish for your computer.

[Zinko]

Slick or Linus (can't remember which) said that doing that is basically suicide.

doesn't linus have like 6 SSD's in RAID 0 in his personal rig already?

[KemoKa]

so there is no way someone could reprogram the NAND to communicate with a separate external controller?

NAND chips are just banks of tiny transistors, you can't program them. You'd have to take them off the PCB and attach them to another PCB with a better controller.

It's like a stomach. What you want to do would be like hooking up a stomach to a faster eater's mouth.

[KemoKa]

doesn't linus have like 6 SSD's in RAID 0 in his personal rig already?

eight, I thought it was. He gets like multiple GB/s reads and writes but has to perform backups daily. That must suck.

[Zinko]

NAND chips are just banks of tiny transistors, you can't program them. You'd have to take them off the PCB and attach them to another PCB with a better controller.

It's like a stomach. What you want to do would be like hooking up a stomach to a faster eater's mouth.

lol, thats a perfect analogy.

[Zinko]

eight, I thought it was. He gets like multiple GB/s reads and writes but has to perform backups daily. That must suck.

but im pretty sure its worth it, for all that speed.

if i had access to all those drives, i would do it.

[KemoKa]

but im pretty sure its worth it, for all that speed.

if i had access to all those drives, i would do it.

absolutely. I'm not dropping $1000 for a PCIe drive if I can RAID multiple SSDs together.

Either way, they have a lower failure rate than normal hard drives, i would be a lot more worried if I RAID 0'd just four HDDs.

[Aniallation]

PCI and SATA are two different kinds of connections.

 

SATA controller cards that use PCI.....