Intel :: Corsair :: Samsung - SSD Battle

[Recon97]

So far as I see,Samsung's SSDs provide same storage and speed if compared to any expensive SSDs yet at very affordable price.For example,Samsung EVO 500 GB SSD which costs around 249$ while looking at the stated brands(In title),they hardly provide 200 GB storage at the same price.What makes Samsung SSDs different from those brands and what is common in all of the stated brands SSDs?

My second question is that what kind of SSD controller is the best and what does it do?

And the last question,what is NAND Flash type?

[Sauron]

Get the cheapest of the 3, you won't notice the difference.

 

I can't answer your other questions because I'm not an expert.

[GloriousPain]

So far as I see,Samsung's SSDs provide same storage and speed if compared to any expensive SSDs yet at very affordable price.For example,Samsung EVO 500 GB SSD which costs around 249$ while looking at the stated brands(In title),they hardly provide 200 GB storage at the same price.What makes Samsung SSDs different from those brands and what is common in all of the stated brands SSDs?

My second question is that what kind of SSD controller is the best and what does it do?

And the last question,what is NAND Flash type?

850Pro>730>840Pro>840Evo>Corsair

I recommend just getting the 840Evo one of the fastest on the market at a GREAT price; Samsung uses different types of nand liekt teh 850s use 3D nand and the 840evo uses 3bit/cell nand instead of 2bit/cell and also Samsung is known for using debatable methods like most ppl don't like 3bit/cell nand and another thing is they usually use firmware tricks like the 840 evo also compresses files to smaller sizes but you'll never see that in your OS or anything...  

I'm not a controller expert ask Hojink he frequents the storage solution subforum he might know I don't...

There's 1-3 bit/cell nands and the higher the number the supposedly slower and less reliable but Samsung just loves to disprove this kind of thing liek tehr 8x0Evo drives use 3bit/cell and are some of the fastest drives yet everyone fears 3bit/cell is slow... and Samsungs 850s are using 3D nand that stacks it on the X, Z, and Y coordinate which most nands down only doing x and z or z and y 

Note it's currently 6AM and I've been up since 4AM yesterday so please ignore typos I'm going to bed sooncurrently waiting on my girlfriend to wake up...and she gets up at 630ish 

[Dimwitted]

Corsair should not be in the comparison but Crucial should be. When doing comparisons like this you need to compare like to like and in this case, manufacturers. Corsair is a marketer not a manufacturer which makes a huge difference.

 

That said, it's tricky. Intel is a standard. What they do is bog standard, the minimum spec for a reliable, decent ssd. Then they price it to the moon because... Intel. That makes them totally uncompetitive. There's as good out there for a lot less.

Samsung is pushing the envelope with their designs. The Pro drives are very similar to the Intel drives, MLC and well sorted but generally cheaper than Intel's stuff. The EVO drives are brilliant. Using cheaper TLC but with great software and excellent engineering they're in a class that's hard to beat. It's why they're recommended so much.

Crucial took everyone by storm with the MX100. They're are good if a little average. They're slightly below the speed standard that the EVO drives have set but they're also cheaper. Their engineering is excellent like Samsung's and Intel's. There isn't any cut corners which is also why they're recommended. Most of the "cheap" ssd's out there are lesser breeds like the Corsair Force LX which went with a cheaper controller to get the cost down. The cheap controllers are mostly just slower and not as good with their utilities like garbage collection. It means that the lifespan of a ssd might be shorter or at least not as efficient as one with a Marvell controller.

 

As for the controller there are a few different names and there's different controllers per company. Each has it's own quirks and the big thing is being able to modify the firmware to fit your requirements and optimize to your specs. Marvell seems to have the inside track right now but it's a near thing. Most of the premium drives like anything labelled "pro" have Marvell controllers. So does the MX100 which just killed all the cheap drives out there who can't use it and match prices. Micron really upset the applecart when they made these drives. The Sandforce controllers are in a state of flux since Seagate bought them out. Toshiba isn't letting anyone else use the Barefoot controller from OCZ but it seems to work well. Everything else is second tier like JMicron and SiliconMotion.

[Recon97]

Corsair should not be in the comparison but Crucial should be. When doing comparisons like this you need to compare like to like and in this case, manufacturers. Corsair is a marketer not a manufacturer which makes a huge difference.

That said, it's tricky. Intel is a standard. What they do is bog standard, the minimum spec for a reliable, decent ssd. Then they price it to the moon because... Intel. That makes them totally uncompetitive. There's as good out there for a lot less.

Samsung is pushing the envelope with their designs. The Pro drives are very similar to the Intel drives, MLC and well sorted but generally cheaper than Intel's stuff. The EVO drives are brilliant. Using cheaper TLC but with great software and excellent engineering they're in a class that's hard to beat. It's why they're recommended so much.

Crucial took everyone by storm with the MX100. They're are good if a little average. They're slightly below the speed standard that the EVO drives have set but they're also cheaper. Their engineering is excellent like Samsung's and Intel's. There isn't any cut corners which is also why they're recommended. Most of the "cheap" ssd's out there are lesser breeds like the Corsair Force LX with went with a cheaper controller to get the cost down. The cheap controllers are mostly just slower and not as good with their utilities like garbage collection. It means that the lifespan of a ssd might be shorter or at least not as efficient as one with a Marvell controller.

As for the controller there are a few different names and there's different controllers per company. Each has it's own quirks and the big thing is being able to modify the firmware to fit your requirements and optimize to your specs. Marvell seems to have the inside track right now but it's a near thing. Most of the premium drives like anything labelled "pro" have Marvell controllers. So does the MX100 which just killed all the cheap drives out there who can't use it and match prices. Micron really upset the applecart when they made these drives. The Sandforce controllers are in a state of flux since Seagate bought them out. Toshiba isn't letting anyone else use the Barefoot controller from OCZ but it seems to work well. Everything else is second tier like JMicron and SiliconMotion.

So Samsung EVO 500 gb or crucial SSD? Just want to be sure.

[Dimwitted]

Yep.

[hojnikb]

So Samsung EVO 500 gb or crucial SSD? Just want to be sure.

Get whatever is cheaper for you. They are both great and fast enough.