People please stop telling people not to get the 4790K for gaming

[Cokeman]

Around the forums I have noticed a lot of people who tell people not to get the i7 4790K for gaming because the i5 4690K is cheaper and preforms the same. While somewhat true the 4790K does slightly out preform the 4690k. Yes it is  cheaper but the 4790K will outperform the 4690K since it has a higher clock speed. It wont be much but it will outperform it. You don't need an i7 but if you have the money to get one I wouldn't recommend not getting one. So please stop telling people not to get the 4790K.

[AlwaysFSX]

False.

 

There's zero reason to buy an i7 for gaming. Absolutely none.

[harrynowl]

We tell people to not get it if their budget isn't appropriate.

 

People that buy 4790Ks and GTX760s are doing it wrong. People who buy 4690Ks + 212 evo + gtx770/280x/290 are not.

 

On Haswell OC is determined 90% by chip and not by cooling. My G3258 could only do 4.2 @ 1.325v but my 4690k does 4.7 @ 1.31v. The G3258 was cooler. I'm using a £25 cooler.

[helping]

lol

[Firearm2112]

Only get an i7 if your into video editing and streaming and light rendering. Besides that, i5 all the way

[AlwaysFSX]

We tell people to not get it if their budget isn't appropriate.

My budget is $700!

 

i7.

 

I'm gaming!

 

i7

 

I'm rendering!

 

Fuckin' Xeon broham.

[patrickjp93]

Around the forums I have noticed a lot of people who tell people not to get the i7 4790K for gaming because the i5 4690K is cheaper and preforms the same. NOT TRUE. Yes it is  cheaper but the 4790K will outperform the 4690K since it has a higher clock speed. Then they to buy a CPU cooler and over clock the 4690K so it preforms the same or slightly better then the 4790K. Sure you could do that, but with the money you spent on the cooler you could of almost bought a 4790K it it will preform the same or just slightly worse then the over clocked 4690K. Then it the the future you can buy a CPU cooler for the 4790K and over clock it and it will destroy the 4690K. Plus you have to remember the over clocking is not guaranteed you might not be able to get your chip up to the clock speed you want. If you told a first time builder not to get the 4790K and get the 4690K and over clock it and they did that and their chip wouldn't overclock to the speed they wanted they would be mad. So please stop telling people not to get the 4790K.

Do you know how little the CPU matters once a certain threshold has been met? The 4790k is overkill for the next 4 years.

[ShadowCaptain]

SNIP

 

Except that its true the i5 4690k will run 99% of games at the same level as the i7

 

The i7 makes no sense in a GAMING only rig, when it comes to productivity like video editing, Photoshop etc then 100% its worth the money

 

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devils-canyon-review-intel-core-i7-4790k-and-i5-4690k

[Freaky_spider]

lel

 

youre saying you need a 100 dollar cooler to get a 4690K too 4.0 GHZ

 

-.-

[Trik'Stari]

With games like star citizen coming up, there is every reason to get the 4790k, I would have if I could have afforded it.

[Marxtai]

@Cokeman

 

Sure, the i7 is better but that money (price difference between the i5 and i7) is better spent in getting a higher-end GPU, since most games are limited by that anywyas. And the performance difference is so small in games that it's a pointless upgrade unless you consider doing some heavy editing with your rig.

[harrynowl]

With games like star citizen coming up, there is every reason to get the 4790k, I would have if I could have afforded it.

...unless you have an AMD GPU for mantle

[Goldilock]

You need to understand that low level API is the next big thing

[AlwaysFSX]

Except that its true the i5 4690k will run 99% of games at the same level as the i7

Yeah but a 4790k is faster. What you posted shows that's true. It's a whole 500MHz faster and gets maybe 1 fps more.

[Trik'Stari]

...unless you have an AMD GPU for mantle

No. Just no. Star citizen is going to require alot more than just a powerful gpu and whatever the hell people think is so special about mantle.

[harrynowl]

No. Just no. Star citizen is going to require alot more than just a powerful gpu and whatever the hell people think is so special about mantle.

Mantle reduces a lot of CPU overhead.

[patrickjp93]

With games like star citizen coming up, there is every reason to get the 4790k, I would have if I could have afforded it.

That's what the devs say: it's the new Crysis. I'll believe it when I see it on my own rigs.

[AlwaysFSX]

Mantle reduces a lot of CPU overhead.

You still need a good cpu regardless.

[patrickjp93]

Mantle reduces a lot of CPU overhead.

And OpenGL changes will reduce it further.

[Trik'Stari]

Mantle reduces a lot of CPU overhead.

With shit like this going on in an openworld MMO with a persistent world, you will need more than just a powerful gpu and mantle. Not to mention fps boarding, etc. You're gonna need a powerful cpu with multi threading to back up what they are going to do. That might be a scripted video, but it's just a showcase, they plan on having that kind of thing being common place, meaning you and however many friends can fit into the ship, running around doing that shit alongside people just playing by themselves.

[harrynowl]

You still need a good cpu regardless.

Oh I know, but I think a 4690k + mantle will still do very well in star citizen

[atrash]

Aahhh..The word 'DESTROY'. What an appropriate way to describe the 'huge' gaming improvement between those cpu. You must be 13 y.o.

[Thecrazyswede]

i7 because E-Pen ( said as a 3770k user )

[ShadowCaptain]

Yeah but a 4790k is faster. What you posted shows that's true. It's a whole 500MHz faster and gets maybe 1 fps more.

 

1 FPS

[TheKDub]

For gaming an i5 4690K is just as effective as an i7 4790K for around $100 less, Big deal if the i7 4790K has a "Slightly higher clock speed", is it really worth the extra $100 if all you are doing is gaming and it will only get you maybe up to 5 extra fps?