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Do you think that this monitor would be good for gaming? and what is the difference from 5ms and 5ms(gtg)?

 

There used to be an ISO standard for measuring response times, which was the combined time of a full black-white transition and back to black again.  However manufacturers no longer use this standard, because it does not give them the lowest possible numbers.  Instead they pick two shades of grey (in this case, grey meaning any color between black and white) and measure the transition between those, this is called grey-to-grey response time (gtg).  There is no standard whatsoever in which grey shades are picked, or in measuring techniques, or in measuring equipment, manufacturers will use whatever they can find that gives them the lowest possible numbers.  So there is really no point in comparing response time between monitors, even from the same manufacturer because they are under no obligation to keep their measurement methods consistent.  You could have ten of the exact same monitor and list them with 10 different response times depending on which colors are picked and how they are measured.  One company's 8ms monitor might be faster than another company's 5ms monitor in reality, or a 1ms monitor might actually be slower than a different 5ms monitor.  It's pretty much a meaningless spec to be honest, you'd think the numbers would let you know which monitors are faster than which, but whatever numbers they list really don't matter; the response times could be anything.  Within reason, of course.

 

With all that said, yes I think pretty much any modern monitor will be good for gaming.  I have never had problems with ghosting on IPS or TN panels that I've used.  Some people say IPS is not good for gaming, but that is not true these days.  Response time used to matter when early IPS monitors had like 50ms response times, at that time yes you needed a TN panel for competitive gaming (TN panels were listed at 15-16ms at the time, for comparison's sake).  Now, you'd be hard pressed to find a monitor above 8-10ms whether IPS or TN, but somehow the "IPS is no good for gaming" myth is still around.

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Im planning to get a LG 25UM65-P, it has 14ms response time and 5ms gtg. Will this be good enough for FPS games?

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competitive CS or CoD?

 

also your age?

Why is the age important

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It's more than enough for me. But are you a competiive gamer? I am sure i'm not.

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Why is the age important

reaction time goes down after around age 25, so if he's 40 a faster monitor wont matter AT ALL :) since he cant react to the images anyhow

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im 15 years old and i play some competitive cs go sometimes.  Also i dont want a TN monitor as i also like to do some photoshop. Do you think this monitor is good enough?

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im 15 years old and i play some competitive cs go sometimes. Also i dont want a TN monitor as i also like to do some photoshop. Do you think this monitor is good enough?

If you don't want TN and you don't pay much competitive FPSs then 15ms response time is fine. Check the input lag as well if you can find the Stat. There's a website that lists popular monitors and tvs input lag scores.

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

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sadly that website didnt have the input lag for this monitor...or atleast i couldnt find it

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when it comes to good ips monitors  at price ranged i dont know much, but any well recommended ips should be great for you :)

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Would the LG 25UM65-P be better for me or the LG 23MP75HM-P

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Would the LG 25UM65-P be better for me or the LG 23MP75HM-P

I don't know about those monitors, but i recently bought an ASUS VN248H - 1920x1080 res; 16:9 aspect ratio; 5ms gtg; 60hz; IPS panel; 24''; it has great viewing angles and Collor accuracy. I am loving it!

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I don't know about those monitors, but i recently bought an ASUS VN248H - 1920x1080 res; 16:9 aspect ratio; 5ms gtg; 60hz; IPS panel; 24''; it has great viewing angles and Collor accuracy. I am loving it!

if it says 5gtg then it has 14ms response time right?

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if it says 5gtg then it has 14ms response time right?

I really don't know if 14ms corresponds to 5ms GTG, i think it might vary depending on the monitor, but i am not sure. The only thing i can say is that i can't notice any type of ghosting on my monitor.

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if it says 5gtg then it has 14ms response time right?

 

Response time isn't a single number, it's different depending on which two colors a pixel is switching to and from.  Switching from whatever specific grey color they picked to some other grey color apparently takes 5ms, but sure there might be a different color transition that takes 14ms on that panel.  Response time is a whole range of values.

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Response time isn't a single number, it's different depending on which two colors a pixel is switching to and from.  Switching from whatever specific grey color they picked to some other grey color apparently takes 5ms, but sure there might be a different color transition that takes 14ms on that panel.  Response time is a whole range of values.

Do you think that this monitor would be good for gaming? and what is the difference from 5ms and 5ms(gtg)?

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Do you think that this monitor would be good for gaming? and what is the difference from 5ms and 5ms(gtg)?

 

There used to be an ISO standard for measuring response times, which was the combined time of a full black-white transition and back to black again.  However manufacturers no longer use this standard, because it does not give them the lowest possible numbers.  Instead they pick two shades of grey (in this case, grey meaning any color between black and white) and measure the transition between those, this is called grey-to-grey response time (gtg).  There is no standard whatsoever in which grey shades are picked, or in measuring techniques, or in measuring equipment, manufacturers will use whatever they can find that gives them the lowest possible numbers.  So there is really no point in comparing response time between monitors, even from the same manufacturer because they are under no obligation to keep their measurement methods consistent.  You could have ten of the exact same monitor and list them with 10 different response times depending on which colors are picked and how they are measured.  One company's 8ms monitor might be faster than another company's 5ms monitor in reality, or a 1ms monitor might actually be slower than a different 5ms monitor.  It's pretty much a meaningless spec to be honest, you'd think the numbers would let you know which monitors are faster than which, but whatever numbers they list really don't matter; the response times could be anything.  Within reason, of course.

 

With all that said, yes I think pretty much any modern monitor will be good for gaming.  I have never had problems with ghosting on IPS or TN panels that I've used.  Some people say IPS is not good for gaming, but that is not true these days.  Response time used to matter when early IPS monitors had like 50ms response times, at that time yes you needed a TN panel for competitive gaming (TN panels were listed at 15-16ms at the time, for comparison's sake).  Now, you'd be hard pressed to find a monitor above 8-10ms whether IPS or TN, but somehow the "IPS is no good for gaming" myth is still around.

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