Plan Now or Wait?

[MattP123]

I have been planning my build for a while, but now that I read this http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/184482-nvidia-geforce-gtx-870-and-gtx-880/ I am debating on waiting till October to get an 870/880. What should I do? 

And do you think when the 870 and 880 are released they will be the price of the 770/780ti now? What should I do? This is the build I have kinda been planning for: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bT2M4D

[Fulgrim]

They'll most likely be more expensive, if your current rig can handle what you normally do on a PC, then you could wait a bit. 

[MegaDave91]

Tip for new builders; don't plan your build unless you're going to buy it at that moment. 

[alphabeta]

Tip for new builders; don't plan your build unless you're going to buy it at that moment.

that moment for me was a whole year but I kept it updated

[MattP123]

Tip for new builders; don't plan your build unless you're going to buy it at that moment. 

I was planning to buy the parts very soon, but I found that thread today. 

[MattP123]

They'll most likely be more expensive, if your current rig can handle what you normally do on a PC, then you could wait a bit. 

I am currently on my broken laptop.

[Fulgrim]

I am currently on my broken laptop.

In that case, get a new rig now lol.

[MegaDave91]

that moment for me was a whole year but I kept it updated

As long as you keep it updated like yourself, then it's ok.

[menendez1293]

You could always build the rig minus the GPU and run on integrated graphics till the 800 series is out. I was planning on doing that, but then ended up wanting to play some games so I bought a EVGA GTX760 as a temporary card. It only cost about 200 so I am not out much once the 800 series comes out. 

[brob]

I have been planning my build for a while, but now that I read this http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/184482-nvidia-geforce-gtx-870-and-gtx-880/ I am debating on waiting till October to get an 870/880. What should I do? 

And do you think when the 870 and 880 are released they will be the price of the 770/780ti now? What should I do? This is the build I have kinda been planning for: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bT2M4D

 

 

Regardless of when you buy there will always be new tech only a few months away. In October the question will be do I wait for Broadwell and DDR4? Or perhaps it will be the imminent release of AMD R10.

 

I am not saying you shouldn't wait. Just pointing out that you will always be faced with this dilemma.

[MattP123]

Regardless of when you buy there will always be new tech only a few months away. In October the question will be do I wait for Broadwell and DDR4? Or perhaps it will be the imminent release of AMD R10.

 

I am not saying you shouldn't wait. Just pointing out that you will always be faced with this dilemma.

I don't really care about DDR4, or Broadwell, but I do care about the new 800 series. And do you know what the price of the 670 and 770 when they first launched? 

[MattP123]

Regardless of when you buy there will always be new tech only a few months away. In October the question will be do I wait for Broadwell and DDR4? Or perhaps it will be the imminent release of AMD R10.

 

I am not saying you shouldn't wait. Just pointing out that you will always be faced with this dilemma.

I found a chart. Do you think they will keep this price trend? 

[brob]

I found a chart. Do you think they will keep this price trend? 

 

 

There will be a short period after the introduction of the new models, once it reaches the market in quantity, when the previous generation will be less expensive than it is now. This is the result of vendors flushing the product out of the supply chain. Then the price will climb. The new generation will be as expensive as the competition allows. As the chart shows, there really is no way of predicting what that price might be.

 

New tech is always tons better and outrageously faster than the current generation, before it is actually delivered.

[MattP123]

There will be a short period after the introduction of the new models, once it reaches the market in quantity, when the previous generation will be less expensive than it is now. This is the result of vendors flushing the product out of the supply chain. Then the price will climb. The new generation will be as expensive as the competition allows. As the chart shows, there really is no way of predicting what that price might be.

 

New tech is always tons better and outrageously faster than the current generation, before it is actually delivered.

So should I just get the 780?

[brob]

So should I just get the 780?

 

I don't know. Undoubtedly the 800 gpu will perform better than the 700. I expect they will be priced close to their 700 counterparts. The only real question is just how much better they will be. That will not be clear for some time.

[MattP123]

I don't know. Undoubtedly the 800 gpu will perform better than the 700. I expect they will be priced close to their 700 counterparts. The only real question is just how much better they will be. That will not be clear for some time.

Do you think I should just wait? 4 months though?

[brob]

Do you think I should just wait? 4 months though?

 

You are the only one who can decide that. Ask yourself, "if the 800 series is a 5%-10% improvement for 5%-10% lower cost how upset will I be if I bought a 780 today?"

 

Just to complicate things, November has the big Black Friday sales in the US.

 

So how much do you want your system now?

[MattP123]

You are the only one who can decide that. Ask yourself, "if the 800 series is a 5%-10% improvement for 5%-10% lower cost how upset will I be if I bought a 780 today?"

 

Just to complicate things, November has the big Black Friday sales in the US.

 

So how much do you want your system now?

Good point and I don't have enough money yet for the system I WAS planning for.

Thanks

[Skander1345]

Do what I'm doing, I'm in a different situation but the Integrated GPU on your cpu is more than enough for basic games and good day to day activities.

When the 800 series comes out you can then make the dedicated GPU decision and not keep working on that horrible laptop.

 

TL'DR get the thing ready and working without the dedicated GPU, and decide on that later when we know the actual performance improvements. 

[MattP123]

You are the only one who can decide that. Ask yourself, "if the 800 series is a 5%-10% improvement for 5%-10% lower cost how upset will I be if I bought a 780 today?"

 

Just to complicate things, November has the big Black Friday sales in the US.

 

So how much do you want your system now?

Should I do this now and get the 870/880 when it comes out? But what if the 800 series doesn't come out until 2015? Should I wait till November to see if the 800 series comes out or not, and if it hasn't get a 780? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($322.99 @ NCIX US) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($76.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 

Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($17.00) 

Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($70.00) 

Other: Corsair MM200 Standard Size  ($17.00)

Other: 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive  ($5.00)

Total: $1118.91

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-26 18:44 EDT-0400

[Skander1345]

 

Should I do this now and get the 870/880 when it comes out? But what if the 800 series doesn't come out until 2015? Should I wait till November to see if the 800 series comes out or not, and if it hasn't get a 780? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($322.99 @ NCIX US) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($76.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 

Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($17.00) 

Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($70.00) 

Other: Corsair MM200 Standard Size  ($17.00)

Other: 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive  ($5.00)

Total: $1118.91

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-26 18:44 EDT-0400

 

Do that and run the iGPU until nov. By that time if the 800 is no bueno get a 780TI

[brob]

 

Should I do this now and get the 870/880 when it comes out? But what if the 800 series doesn't come out until 2015? Should I wait till November to see if the 800 series comes out or not, and if it hasn't get a 780? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($322.99 @ NCIX US) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($76.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 

Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($17.00) 

Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($70.00) 

Other: Corsair MM200 Standard Size  ($17.00)

Other: 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive  ($5.00)

Total: $1118.91

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-26 18:44 EDT-0400

 

 

If you want a system now you can do this. Just remember, no regrets.

[MattP123]

If you want a system now you can do this. Just remember, no regrets.

What would I regret? 

[brob]

What would I regret? 

 

I can't predict the future. Maybe the price of memory drops back to or below pre Hynix-fire levels. Maybe ssd prices drop by 30%. Maybe the EVGA psu rises in price by $30. Perhaps a new generation of Z97 motherboards appear or Intel surprises everyone with the early introduction of desktop Broadwell. Possibly someone introduces a new 240mm cooler that is cheaper and better than anything on the market.

[MattP123]

I can't predict the future. Maybe the price of memory drops back to or below pre Hynix-fire levels. Maybe ssd prices drop by 30%. Maybe the EVGA psu rises in price by $30. Perhaps a new generation of Z97 motherboards appear or Intel surprises everyone with the early introduction of desktop Broadwell. Possibly someone introduces a new 240mm cooler that is cheaper and better than anything on the market.

Well that sounds like a personal problem.