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Considering producing SED/FED monitors... Critique needed

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If this post is not allowed on LinusTechTips, please inform me and I will delete it or edit it so that it follows the rules. I also want to state that I am in the very, very early planning stages for SED/FED monitor production; there is about a 25% chance of me beginning SED/FED monitor production but a 75% chance that this will not happen at all. CRT fans, please don't get your hopes up for this just yet.



Introduction
I am trying to assess interest in SED and FED computer monitors because I am interested in manufacturing them. For those who do not have knowledge about these amazing displays, I will describe them in this post as well as provide links to the Wikipedia pages for both technologies.

Basic Info
SED and FED displays are monitors that have a smaller form factor than LCDs, use  7-10 times less power than LCDs, while still having all the benefits of heavy, bulky, and power-guzzling CRT monitors. CRTs, SEDs, and FEDs all function by firing electrons at red, green, and blue phosphors, which glow when struck. On CRTs, SEDs, and FEDs, a group of all three phosphor colors represents one pixel. The phosphors require no backlight to function because they illuminate brightly when hit by electrons. LCDs and OLEDs all function by electrically changing the color of the crystals or LEDs. In terms of image quality, CRT, SED, and FED displays are considered superior to LCD and OLED monitors, because CRTs, SEDs, and FEDs have higher refresh rates, the ability to natively run multiple resolutions and refresh rates without stretching, no input lag, instant response times, better black levels, better color representation, and better contrast ratios.

OLED Description
OLED displays are made of light emitting diodes that represent each pixel on the monitor. Unlike LCDs, OLEDs generate their own light and therefore do not need to be backlit.
Wikipedia page for OLEDs

LCD Description
LCDs function by changing the color of backlit liquid crystals. In LCDs, each pixel is a liquid crystal. The liquid crystals in LCDs produce no light themselves and must be backlit in order to be visible.
Wikipedia page for LCDs

CRT Description
CRT monitors use three electron guns, one for each phosphor color, which fire electrons in straight lines. Strong magnets are used to alter the course of the three electron beams so that they hit the desired phosphors. When the phosphors are struck, they illuminate and produce colored light, which is seen by the user of the monitor.
Wikipedia page for CRTs

Sed_vs_CRT.jpg
Comparison of CRT and SED/FED monitors

SED/FED Description
SED and FED monitors use thousands of microscopic electron emitters that fire electrons at each individual phosphor directly. Each phosphor is lit by its own electron emitter, which is located directly behind the phosphor, so it is not necessary to artificially bend the electron beam. When the phosphors are struck, they illuminate and produce colored light, which is seen by the user of the monitor. SED and FED monitors are extremely similar; their differences are so technical and minor that I will not be covering them here, as they are not of relevance.
Wikipedia page for SEDs
Wikipedia page for FEDs



List of planned monitors
Below are examples of monitors that I would sell if I decide to start producing SED/FED monitors. Do the prices seem fair? Would you get one of the monitors, if so, which monitor (ex. Monitor 6), which size (ex. 80cm), and which panel finish (ex. glossy) would you get? Are there any changes I could make to the monitors to make them more appealing to you?

Monitor 1
Prices: glossy/50cm=$100, matte/50cm=$100
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Panel finish: Choice of glossy or matte
Resolutions: 1536x960x90Hz, 1440x900x100Hz, 1280x800x110Hz, 1152x720x120Hz, 1024x640x135Hz, 768x480x150Hz
Response time: Instant
Input lag: Zero
Colors: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Contrast: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Viewing angle: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Inputs: Dual-Link DVI, DisplayPort 1.2a
Digital Restrictions Management: To protect personal freedoms, this monitor is 100% DRM-free and is not encumbered by HDCP or any other DRM schemes.
Other features: nVidia G-Sync, ATI FreeSync, internal USB hub, internal IEEE1394 hub, internal Light Peak hub

Monitor 2
Prices: glossy/50cm=$200, matte/50cm=$200
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Panel finish: Choice of glossy or matte
Resolutions: 1760x1100x90Hz 1680x1050x100Hz, 1600x1000x110Hz, 1536x960x120Hz, 1440x900x135Hz, 1280x800x145Hz, 1152x720x160Hz, 1024x640x180Hz, 768x480x200Hz
Response time: Instant
Input lag: Zero
Colors: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Contrast: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Viewing angle: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Inputs: Dual-Link DVI, DisplayPort 1.2a
Digital Restrictions Management: To protect personal freedoms, this monitor is 100% DRM-free and is not encumbered by HDCP or any other DRM schemes.
Other features: nVidia G-Sync, ATI FreeSync, internal USB hub, internal IEEE1394 hub, internal Light Peak hub

Monitor 3
Prices: glossy/50cm=$250, matte/50cm=$250, glossy/60cm=$300, matte/60cm=$300
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Panel finish: Choice of glossy or matte
Resolutions: 1920x1200x90Hz 1840x1150x105Hz 1760x1100x120Hz, 1680x1050x135Hz, 1600x1000x145Hz, 1536x960x160Hz, 1440x900x180Hz, 1280x800x195Hz, 1152x720x215Hz 1024x640x240Hz, 768x480x265Hz
Response time: Instant
Input lag: Zero
Colors: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Contrast: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Viewing angle: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Inputs: Dual-Link DVI, DisplayPort 1.2a
Digital Restrictions Management: To protect personal freedoms, this monitor is 100% DRM-free and is not encumbered by HDCP or any other DRM schemes.
Other features: nVidia G-Sync, ATI FreeSync, internal USB hub, internal IEEE1394 hub, internal Light Peak hub

Monitor 4
Prices: glossy/50cm=$350, matte/50cm=$350, glossy/60cm=$400, matte/60cm=$400, glossy/70cm=$450, matte/70cm=$450
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Panel finish: Choice of glossy or matte
Resolutions: 2304x1440x90Hz, 2048x1280x105Hz 1920x1200x120Hz, 1840x1150x140Hz, 1760x1100x160Hz, 1680x1050x180Hz, 1600x1000x195Hz, 1536x960x215Hz, 1440x900x240Hz, 1280x800x260Hz, 1152x720x285Hz, 1024x640x320Hz, 768x480x355Hz
Response time: Instant
Input lag: Zero
Colors: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Contrast: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Viewing angle: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Inputs: Dual-Link DVI, DisplayPort 1.2a
Digital Restrictions Management: To protect personal freedoms, this monitor is 100% DRM-free and is not encumbered by HDCP or any other DRM schemes.
Other features: nVidia G-Sync, ATI FreeSync, internal USB hub, internal IEEE1394 hub, internal Light Peak hub

Monitor 5
Prices: glossy/50cm=$400, matte/50cm=$400, glossy/60cm=$475, matte/60cm=$475, glossy/70cm=$550, matte/70cm=$550, glossy/80cm=$625, matte/80cm=$625
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Panel finish: Choice of glossy or matte
Resolutions: 2560x1600 90Hz, 2304x1440x105Hz, 2048x1280x120Hz, 1920x1200x135Hz, 1840x1150x160Hz, 1760x1100x215Hz, 1680x1050x240Hz, 1600x1000x260Hz, 1536x960x285Hz 1440x900x320Hz, 1280x800x345Hz, 1152x720x380Hz, 1024x640x425Hz, 768x480x475Hz
Response time: Instant
Input lag: Zero
Colors: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Contrast: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Viewing angle: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Inputs: Dual-Link DVI, DisplayPort 1.2a
Digital Restrictions Management: To protect personal freedoms, this monitor is 100% DRM-free and is not encumbered by HDCP or any other DRM schemes.
Other features: nVidia G-Sync, ATI FreeSync, internal USB hub, internal IEEE1394 hub, internal Light Peak hub

Monitor 6
Prices: glossy/50cm=$525, matte/50cm=$525, glossy/60cm=$600, matte/60cm=$600, glossy/70cm=$675, matte/70cm=$675, glossy/80cm=$750, matte/80cm=$750
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Panel finish: Choice of glossy or matte
Resolutions: 3072x1920x90Hz, 2880x1800x105Hz, 2560x1600x120Hz, 2304x1440x140Hz, 2048x1280x160Hz, 1920x1200x180Hz, 1840x1150x215Hz, 1760x1100x285Hz 1680x1050x320Hz, 1600x1000x345Hz, 1536x960x380Hz, 1440x900x425Hz, 1280x800x460Hz, 1152x720x505Hz, 1024x640x565Hz, 768x480x635Hz
Response time: Instant
Input lag: Zero
Colors: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Contrast: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Viewing angle: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Inputs: Dual-Link DVI, DisplayPort 1.2a
Digital Restrictions Management: To protect personal freedoms, this monitor is 100% DRM-free and is not encumbered by HDCP or any other DRM schemes.
Other features: nVidia G-Sync, ATI FreeSync, internal USB hub, internal IEEE1394 hub, internal Light Peak hub

Monitor 7
Prices: glossy/50cm=$650, matte/50cm=$650, glossy/60cm=$725, matte/60cm=$725, glossy/70cm=$800, matte/70cm=$800, glossy/80cm=$875, matte/80cm=$875
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Panel finish: Choice of glossy or matte
Resolutions: 3520x2200x90Hz, 3360x2100x100Hz, 3200x2000x110Hz, 3072x1920x120Hz, 2880x1800x140Hz, 2560x1600x160Hz, 2304x1440x185Hz, 2048x1280x215Hz, 1920x1200x240Hz, 1840x1150x285Hz, 1760x1100x380Hz, 1680x1050x425Hz, 1600x1000x460, 1536x960x505Hz, 1440x900x565Hz, 1280x800x615Hz, 1152x720x675Hz,1024x640x755Hz, 768x480x845Hz
Response time: Instant
Input lag: Zero
Colors: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Contrast: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Viewing angle: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Inputs: Dual-Link DVI, DisplayPort 1.2a
Digital Restrictions Management: To protect personal freedoms, this monitor is 100% DRM-free and is not encumbered by HDCP or any other DRM schemes.
Other features: G-Sync, FreeSync, internal USB hub, internal IEEE1394 hub, internal Light Peak hub

Monitor 8
Prices: glossy/50cm=$775, matte/50cm=$775, glossy/60cm=$850, matte/60cm=$850, glossy/70cm=$925, matte/70cm=$925, glossy/80cm=$1000, matte/80cm=$1000
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Panel finish: Choice of glossy or matte
Resolutions: 3840x2400x90Hz, 3680x2300x100Hz, 3520x2200x120Hz, 3360x2100x135Hz, 3200x2000x145Hz, 3072x1920x160Hz, 2880x1800x185Hz, 2560x1600x215Hz, 2304x1440x245Hz, 2048x1280x285Hz, 1920x1200x320Hz, 1840x1150x380Hz, 1760x1100x505Hz, 1680x1050x565Hz, 1600x1000x615Hz, 1536x960x675Hz, 1440x900x755Hz, 1280x800x820Hz, 1152x720x900Hz,1024x640x1005Hz, 768x480x1125Hz
Response time: Instant
Input lag: Zero
Colors: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Contrast: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Viewing angle: Better than the absolute best LCD IPS money can buy
Inputs: Dual-Link DVI, DisplayPort 1.2a
Digital Restrictions Management: To protect personal freedoms, this monitor is 100% DRM-free and is not encumbered by HDCP or any other DRM schemes.
Other features: nVidia G-Sync, ATI FreeSync, internal USB hub, internal IEEE1394 hub, internal Light Peak hub

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray_tube
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-conduction_electron-emitter_display
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_emission_display
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Sed_vs_CRT.jpg

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I'm interested I guess but why no 16:9 aspect ratio?

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Sounds interesting, but how much table space can I expect a monitor like this to take up?

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  • 2 weeks later...

Monitor 8 80cm glossy please.

 

If they work with 3D shutter glasses even better.

 

Been waiting for something like this for a long time.

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Out of curiosity, how much money do you have set for this? Just asking because it is gonna cost a few million at the very least to even get around to building a factory...

Do you already have functional prototypes? Who does the actual engineering work for these? You? Do you have any experience in either designing or manufacturing mass produced electronics?

What country are you planning to build these in? China, presumably?

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Out of curiosity, how much money do you have set for this? Just asking because it is gonna cost a few million at the very least to even get around to building a factory...

Do you already have functional prototypes? Who does the actual engineering work for these? You? Do you have any experience in either designing or manufacturing mass produced electronics?

What country are you planning to build these in? China, presumably?

 

Not to mention with electronics there will presumably be stringent testing by a regulator to ensure it is safe for home use. That's certainly the case in Europe, practically everything has this logo on it somewhere:

 

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Monitor 8 glossy eventually

But before that Monitor 5. Since my hardware isn't close to be capable of driving more than that.

 

But I'm all up for Lower energy displays! Not to mention all the other stuff.

Then I do have a question. If these kind of monitors are so freaking better than LCD / OLED why aren't they on the market?

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  • 8 months later...

Are you going to make SED monitors? I want one

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