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New Mid-Range Pc Build - Suggestions - Bottlenecking? M-ITX

Klixx

Hey Guys,

i'm planning to build me a new budget Gaming PC and I'd like to hear your thoughts on it. Maybe get some tips and other recommendations.

I'll start up with the parts list:

 

Bitfenix Colossus M - Mini-ITX

BeQuiet Pure Power L8 430W

ASRock H87M-ITX Intel H87 So.1150  *edited*

Intel i5 4670 @3.40GHz (or 4570 would like some recommendation on this one)
8GB Ballistix 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Ram (2x4)

1TB WD Blue Hard Drive

Geforce GTX650Ti 4GB (already own this one but i am considering upgrading to a 770 later)

 

That's it for now. I'm thinking about tossing an SSD in there later and maybe an aftermarket cooler.

I don't really consider overclocking the CPU so no Unlocked version.

 

Now I'd like to know from you guys if the components will work good together and if there is potential for bottlenecking.

 

 

Greetings,

Klixx

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budget?
location?

uses?

use the quote button if you want my help

Specs

CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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for silence you want another cooler, but a simple small cheap noctua CPU headsink and fan would deal with that for you :) 

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budget?

location?

uses?

use the quote button if you want my help

 

Hey, 

Budget is around 400$ right now but i already own the HDD, GPU and PSU.

Location is Germany and the uses are Gaming, Browsing and watching HD Video on 1920x1080.

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Hey, 

Budget is around 400$ right now but i already own the HDD, GPU and PSU.

Location is Germany and the uses are Gaming, Browsing and watching HD Video on 1920x1080.

alright everything on well everything looks fine just heres a alt motherboard

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-vanguardb85

Specs

CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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That's a Micro-ATX Board but I'm going for Mini ITX :)

woops sorry then i got nothing sadly im only familiar with z87 boards that are mini itx

Specs

CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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 sadly im only familiar with z87 boards that are mini itx

lol

@Klixx how about the z98i-pro, it includes a wifi dongle if you dont have one already? (i cant find a H version :( )

hellooooooooo

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@Klixx how about the z98i-pro, it includes a wifi dongle if you dont have one already? (i cant find a H version :( )

 

I usually dont need Wifi my Router sits right next to my PC :) and on Lan-Partys we normally use.. Lan :P

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Ok i just looked it up the B85M is not that good for gaming.

I think ill stick to the H87 Chipset

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This Topic is not dead yet btw most of my question remain unanswered..

*Bump*

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Ok i just looked it up the B85M is not that good for gaming.

I think ill stick to the H87 Chipset

The B85 will perform exactly the same as the H87 for gaming. As long as both have a PCI-E 2.0/3.0 x16 slot for the GPU, there will be no difference.

 

If the cost difference isn't much, I'd suggest the H87 over the B85 anyways.

 

Not a big fan of that case, but to each, his/her own. ;) Otherwise, the build looks fine to me. I'm running the i5-4570 and IMO the extra $30-40 for the 4670 isn't worth the ~3% performance gain. It's an awesome CPU for the price and handles anything I've thrown at it, from Crysis 3 to heavy multi-tasking. No sweat. :)

My Systems:

Main - Work + Gaming:

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Woodland Raven: Ryzen 2700X // AMD Wraith RGB // Asus Prime X570-P // G.Skill 2x 8GB 3600MHz DDR4 // Radeon RX Vega 56 // Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB M.2 SSD // Deepcool DQ650-M // chassis build in progress // Windows 10 // Thrustmaster TMX + G27 pedals & shifter

F@H Rig:

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FX-8350 // Deepcool Neptwin // MSI 970 Gaming // AData 2x 4GB 1600 DDR3 // 2x Gigabyte RX-570 4G's // Samsung 840 120GB SSD // Cooler Master V650 // Windows 10

 

HTPC:

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SNES PC (HTPC): i3-4150 @3.5 // Gigabyte GA-H87N-Wifi // G.Skill 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 // Asus Dual GTX 1050Ti 4GB OC // AData SP600 128GB SSD // Pico 160XT PSU // Custom SNES Enclosure // 55" LG LED 1080p TV  // Logitech wireless touchpad-keyboard // Windows 10 // Build Log

Laptops:

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MY DAILY: Lenovo ThinkPad T410 // 14" 1440x900 // i5-540M 2.5GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD iGPU + Quadro NVS 3100M 512MB dGPU // 2x4GB DDR3L 1066 // Mushkin Triactor 480GB SSD // Windows 10

 

WIFE'S: Dell Latitude E5450 // 14" 1366x768 // i5-5300U 2.3GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD5500 // 2x4GB RAM DDR3L 1600 // 500GB 7200 HDD // Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon

 

EXPERIMENTAL: Pinebook // 11.6" 1080p // Manjaro KDE (ARM)

NAS:

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Home NAS: Pentium G4400 @3.3 // Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 // 2x 4GB DDR4 2400 // Intel HD Graphics // Kingston A400 120GB SSD // 3x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 HDDs in RAID-Z // Cooler Master Silent Pro M 1000w PSU // Antec Performance Plus 1080AMG // FreeNAS OS

 

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The B85 will perform exactly the same as the H87 for gaming. As long as both have a PCI-E 2.0/3.0 x16 slot for the GPU, there will be no difference.

 

If the cost difference isn't much, I'd suggest the H87 over the B85 anyways.

 

Not a big fan of that case, but to each, his/her own. ;) Otherwise, the build looks fine to me. I'm running the i5-4570 and IMO the extra $30-40 for the 4670 isn't worth the ~3% performance gain. It's an awesome CPU for the price and handles anything I've thrown at it, from Crysis 3 to heavy multi-tasking. No sweat. :)

 

Thank you :) And yeah Cases are really about your taste :D

Do you think there will be bottlenecking if i toss a 770 or 780 in there? And will 430W PSU 80+ Bronze be enough for that? ^^

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Thank you :) And yeah Cases are really about your taste :D

Do you think there will be bottlenecking if i toss a 770 or 780 in there? And will 430W PSU 80+ Bronze be enough for that? ^^

 

The 4570 could drive two 770s or 780s, so no, there would be no CPU bottleneck with a single 770/780. ;)

 

If you want to run a 770 or 780 I would recommend at least an 80+ bronze 600w PSU of good quality. 430w *might* be enough, but it's not worth the risk pushing your PSU close to it's limits. 

My Systems:

Main - Work + Gaming:

Spoiler

Woodland Raven: Ryzen 2700X // AMD Wraith RGB // Asus Prime X570-P // G.Skill 2x 8GB 3600MHz DDR4 // Radeon RX Vega 56 // Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB M.2 SSD // Deepcool DQ650-M // chassis build in progress // Windows 10 // Thrustmaster TMX + G27 pedals & shifter

F@H Rig:

Spoiler

FX-8350 // Deepcool Neptwin // MSI 970 Gaming // AData 2x 4GB 1600 DDR3 // 2x Gigabyte RX-570 4G's // Samsung 840 120GB SSD // Cooler Master V650 // Windows 10

 

HTPC:

Spoiler

SNES PC (HTPC): i3-4150 @3.5 // Gigabyte GA-H87N-Wifi // G.Skill 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 // Asus Dual GTX 1050Ti 4GB OC // AData SP600 128GB SSD // Pico 160XT PSU // Custom SNES Enclosure // 55" LG LED 1080p TV  // Logitech wireless touchpad-keyboard // Windows 10 // Build Log

Laptops:

Spoiler

MY DAILY: Lenovo ThinkPad T410 // 14" 1440x900 // i5-540M 2.5GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD iGPU + Quadro NVS 3100M 512MB dGPU // 2x4GB DDR3L 1066 // Mushkin Triactor 480GB SSD // Windows 10

 

WIFE'S: Dell Latitude E5450 // 14" 1366x768 // i5-5300U 2.3GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD5500 // 2x4GB RAM DDR3L 1600 // 500GB 7200 HDD // Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon

 

EXPERIMENTAL: Pinebook // 11.6" 1080p // Manjaro KDE (ARM)

NAS:

Spoiler

Home NAS: Pentium G4400 @3.3 // Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 // 2x 4GB DDR4 2400 // Intel HD Graphics // Kingston A400 120GB SSD // 3x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 HDDs in RAID-Z // Cooler Master Silent Pro M 1000w PSU // Antec Performance Plus 1080AMG // FreeNAS OS

 

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The 4570 could drive two 770s or 780s, so no, there would be no CPU bottleneck with a single 770/780. ;)

 

If you want to run a 770 or 780 I would recommend at least an 80+ bronze 600w PSU of good quality. 430w *might* be enough, but it's not worth the risk pushing your PSU close to it's limits. 

Ok thx. Will the 430W still be enough if i toss a SSD and a second HDD in there?

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Ok thx. Will the 430W still be enough if i toss a SSD and a second HDD in there?

 

To be more clear, I wouldn't recommend a 430w PSU for a system running a GTX 770/780-class GPU, even if it's 80+ bronze. I would highly recommend anything 80+ bronze and at least 600watts. Stick to brands like Seasonic, Corsair, Cooler Master, XFX, EVGA etc. I don't know anything about Be Quiet PSUs but if they are good quality units, then I see no problem with them, but step up to at least 550-600watts. I would suggest researching to find out who they are manufactured by, where and what components are used.

 

The PSU is one, if not, the most important component of your system and often one of the most neglected. It is always better to use a PSU that is rated for continuous output that is higher than your estimated total system draw.

 

Would it work with that 430w PSU? Probably. But that doesn't mean you should run it. On Nvidia's website, for the GTX 770 the minimum recommended system power is 600w and I highly recommend you stick to that suggestion. It's far better to have more power available than you need rather than not enough. 

My Systems:

Main - Work + Gaming:

Spoiler

Woodland Raven: Ryzen 2700X // AMD Wraith RGB // Asus Prime X570-P // G.Skill 2x 8GB 3600MHz DDR4 // Radeon RX Vega 56 // Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB M.2 SSD // Deepcool DQ650-M // chassis build in progress // Windows 10 // Thrustmaster TMX + G27 pedals & shifter

F@H Rig:

Spoiler

FX-8350 // Deepcool Neptwin // MSI 970 Gaming // AData 2x 4GB 1600 DDR3 // 2x Gigabyte RX-570 4G's // Samsung 840 120GB SSD // Cooler Master V650 // Windows 10

 

HTPC:

Spoiler

SNES PC (HTPC): i3-4150 @3.5 // Gigabyte GA-H87N-Wifi // G.Skill 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 // Asus Dual GTX 1050Ti 4GB OC // AData SP600 128GB SSD // Pico 160XT PSU // Custom SNES Enclosure // 55" LG LED 1080p TV  // Logitech wireless touchpad-keyboard // Windows 10 // Build Log

Laptops:

Spoiler

MY DAILY: Lenovo ThinkPad T410 // 14" 1440x900 // i5-540M 2.5GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD iGPU + Quadro NVS 3100M 512MB dGPU // 2x4GB DDR3L 1066 // Mushkin Triactor 480GB SSD // Windows 10

 

WIFE'S: Dell Latitude E5450 // 14" 1366x768 // i5-5300U 2.3GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD5500 // 2x4GB RAM DDR3L 1600 // 500GB 7200 HDD // Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon

 

EXPERIMENTAL: Pinebook // 11.6" 1080p // Manjaro KDE (ARM)

NAS:

Spoiler

Home NAS: Pentium G4400 @3.3 // Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 // 2x 4GB DDR4 2400 // Intel HD Graphics // Kingston A400 120GB SSD // 3x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 HDDs in RAID-Z // Cooler Master Silent Pro M 1000w PSU // Antec Performance Plus 1080AMG // FreeNAS OS

 

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