Bottlenecking GTX760

[pandaAVM]

Hey guys, I'm building my first pc and I was concerned whether or not a i3-4130 would bottleneck a gtx760. I plan to get an i5-4430 if the i3 does bottleneck the gpu performance.

[ZetZet]

In some games it definitely will.

[flibberdipper]

It might bottleneck a little.

[Mister Snow]

I would not recommend you to go for i3 with GTX760. Take i5 if you can or AMD if you are on a tight budget. 

[Bad@Gaming]

Will not bottleneck.

 

Sauce: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-4340-4330-4130_5.html#sect0

 

In the future you might run across games that don't support dual core CPU's, but I think that might be a stretch and will be a long ways off.

[mkessler9]

Hey guys, I'm building my first pc and I was concerned whether or not a i3-4130 would bottleneck a gtx760. I plan to get an i5-4430 if the i3 does bottleneck the gpu performance.

I can tell you this. It may not bottleneck in most games but when in BF4 if you try to play it on ultra it will just run the cpu at 100% and will make the game laggy and if you try watching a 4k video it will lag. Just go with somthing like a amd 6300

[flibberdipper]

Will not bottleneck.

 

Sauce: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-4340-4330-4130_5.html#sect0

 

In the future you might run across games that don't support dual core CPU's, but I think that might be a stretch and will be a long ways off.

It's not that they won't support them, it's just that they won't be adequate enough.

[Faa]

4960x bottlenecks a gtx 650 in nearly all mmo's.
 

 

Will not bottleneck.

 

Sauce: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-4340-4330-4130_5.html#sect0

 

In the future you might run across games that don't support dual core CPU's, but I think that might be a stretch and will be a long ways off.

Try some games, use precision x's OSD to monitor your gpu load and anything below 99% is a cpu bottleneck.

[Wheelieboy]

Hey guys, I'm building my first pc and I was concerned whether or not a i3-4130 would bottleneck a gtx760. I plan to get an i5-4430 if the i3 does bottleneck the gpu performance.

well I'd suggest that you go with the i5 sir, if your running low on cash go with the AMD FX 8320,but your gonna need a decent motherboard so . You might spend a little bit than you expected. I have an AMD FX 8320 and paired it with the PALIT GTX 760, Running fine thanks to the Mother from GIGABYTE "GA-990FXA-UD3 Rev 4.0" .. and I also have an i3 which is the Intel CORE i3 2120 and together with a GTX 650Ti Boost last 2012. .Still running smoothly . .

[Cubit481]

 

4960x bottlenecks a gtx 650 in nearly all mmo's.

r u high...??

[Faa]

r u high...??

Not really, unless you want me to prove my claim? Kinda lazy to do so. You're better off believing me and stop doubting my claims. 

[Cubit481]

Not really, unless you want me to prove my claim? Kinda lazy to do so. You're better off believing me and stop doubting my claims. 

ya well i dont think so...reply with ur lamest answer...

[Faa]

ya well i dont think so...reply with ur lamest answer...

http://i.imgur.com/kmaVIgd.jpg

2 780's sitting at both 20% load with 8x AA at 30 fps would translate to a 650 around 80% load at 30 fps. You're always cpu limited, and what I just showed is complety nothing. When theres a world event going on with thousands of people I get around 5-10 fps with much lower gpu loads. This a reason why you should stop getting ultra high-end gpu's or even in SLI for cpu bound games because its stupid you don't get any performance differences.

 

[Cubit481]

http://i.imgur.com/kmaVIgd.jpg

2 780's sitting at both 20% load with 8x AA at 30 fps would translate to a 650 around 80% load at 30 fps. You're always cpu limited, and what I just showed is complety nothing. When theres a world event going on with thousands of people I get around 5-10 fps with much lower gpu loads. This a reason why you should stop getting ultra high-end gpu's or even in SLI for cpu bound games because its stupid you don't get any performance differences.

 

well what u r saying i get it, even i dont prefer buying that much high end cards...but it depends on the games too, how well it is optimized to utilize that much bandwidth, most mmo have no requirement of that much high end gpus, when gpus run at lower loads, it cannot be always said that cpu is causing the bottleneck....there is a hell lot of difference between 2 780 ans a single 650...i dont think it will be 80%...it will be above 90%....

[Disillumination]

it won't bottleneck in most games

 

you could probably even get away with even using a Pentium g3420/g3220 if you wanted to

 

I could have sworn Nicolas11x12TechX had a comparison video between the g3420 and i3 4130....must have been taken down

my intel shill sense is tingling....

 

i3 is just fine dude, amd will work too buuuut I think intels stuff is more solid, newer, run cooler, and takes less power so you can save money on the power supply (seriously you can probably get away with a newer 430 watt with an i3 4130 and 760)

my amd cpus that have pissed me off in the past (4100 4130 6300 8150)

 

grab an h81 board, save even more money (unless you want gamer bling)

[Cryptonite]

http://i.imgur.com/kmaVIgd.jpg

2 780's sitting at both 20% load with 8x AA at 30 fps would translate to a 650 around 80% load at 30 fps. You're always cpu limited, and what I just showed is complety nothing. When theres a world event going on with thousands of people I get around 5-10 fps with much lower gpu loads. This a reason why you should stop getting ultra high-end gpu's or even in SLI for cpu bound games because its stupid you don't get any performance differences.

 

actually that screenshot is just based off crap optimization, you do know you can enable CPU load in the on screen display as well so you can actually see it not being the bottleneck. I got fps galore on wow with an i3 and 660 Ti

[Ober1kenobi]

In some games it definitely will.

LOL, Go watch Austin Evans Video on i3 4130 vs 4670k,

[Ober1kenobi]

Crysis 3 was still only a 5fps difference with a GTX 780,

[Kulthor]

http://i.imgur.com/kmaVIgd.jpg

2 780's sitting at both 20% load with 8x AA at 30 fps would translate to a 650 around 80% load at 30 fps. You're always cpu limited, and what I just showed is complety nothing. When theres a world event going on with thousands of people I get around 5-10 fps with much lower gpu loads. This a reason why you should stop getting ultra high-end gpu's or even in SLI for cpu bound games because its stupid you don't get any performance differences.

 

Only thing I'm going to say about your WoW example of CPU bottleneck is that back when WoW and EQ2 were released ALOT of games pushed most of the graphics load to the CPU and unless they build those older MMO's from scratch with a brand new game engine they will still push alot to the CPU, all they have done in the past 10 + years done engine wise is patch in "Bandaid" sulutions to ease it abit. Hell EQ2 maxed gives me 30-40 fps maxed in almost empty zones but i can run Rift and ESO in public event areas with alot of people around and not dip bellow 50 fps on a 4770k and a gtx 780.

[totjup5]

Either get an i5, or if that's too expensive get a 6300, because i3's are absolute trash.

[Faa]

well what u r saying i get it, even i dont prefer buying that much high end cards...but it depends on the games too, how well it is optimized to utilize that much bandwidth, most mmo have no requirement of that much high end gpus, when gpus run at lower loads, it cannot be always said that cpu is causing the bottleneck....there is a hell lot of difference between 2 780 ans a single 650...i dont think it will be 80%...it will be above 90%....

Read what my first post in this thread was about. GPU's will jump anytime to 99% without any excuse, if they don't then theyre being limited by the cpu. Lets say the cpu isnt the bottleneck andyou have max 50% then that would mean you have either vsync enabled or throttling issues like overheating.

 

actually that screenshot is just based off crap optimization, you do know you can enable CPU load in the on screen display as well so you can actually see it not being the bottleneck. I got fps galore on wow with an i3 and 660 Ti

 

Dude the cpu load means nothing. Anything below 99% gpu load is a cpu bottleneck. The CPU load doesnt mean that much anymore with all the multicore cpu's we have these days and game engines being based on 2-3 threads that cant use more than 2-3 cores it's pointless to use the cpu load as an indicator. I get 300 fps and stuff when you're sitting somewhere alone outside of a main city but that drops by 1000% once you engage a boss.

 

Only thing I'm going to say about your WoW example of CPU bottleneck is that back when WoW and EQ2 were released ALOT of games pushed most of the graphics load to the CPU and unless they build those older MMO's from scratch with a brand new game engine they will still push alot to the CPU, all they have done in the past 10 + years done engine wise is patch in "Bandaid" sulutions to ease it abit. Hell EQ2 maxed gives me 30-40 fps maxed in almost empty zones but i can run Rift and ESO in public event areas with alot of people around and not dip bellow 50 fps on a 4770k and a gtx 780.

Not really, cpu's are barely capable of rendering frames if you make them do it, it's stupid because that will just create a bigger bottleneck and theyre not fast enough even a 3930K@100% would suck. Their job in games is feeding your gpu with information of how a frame should look like, doing physics, UI etc. It's not wow only it's the same thing with planetside 2, as long as you have thousands of people surrounding you shooting/casting spells you always get horrible frames. BF4 isn't really that much cpu bound but I bet if we could play 1000vs1000 TDM in operation locker expect a huge cpu bottleneck with all the explosive spammers.

 

 

LOL, Go watch Austin Evans Video on i3 4130 vs 4670k,

There's no yes or no answer. Games where the i3 will be a bottleneck, so will the i5 be as well with a few exceptions of heavily multithreaded games which we have a few only.

 

Either get an i5, or if that's too expensive get a 6300, because i3's are absolute trash.

Stop spraying misinformation every single time you post. I would love to see both of your 660ti's gpu load vs my two 780's and a 3930k with 4 cores disabled simulating a i3 in cpu limited games. Seen plenty of screenshots & video's with 8350's overclocked to 5GHz not even being close to push 2 cards above 40% load which would translate that they added a 2nd card when their cpu was already forming a bottleneck for a single card.

[Cubit481]

 

Read what my first post in this thread was about. GPU's will jump anytime to 99% without any excuse, if they don't then theyre being limited by the cpu. Lets say the cpu isnt the bottleneck andyou have max 50% then that would mean you have either vsync enabled or throttling issues like overheating.

 

 

Dude the cpu load means nothing. Anything below 99% gpu load is a cpu bottleneck. The CPU load doesnt mean that much anymore with all the multicore cpu's we have these days and game engines being based on 2-3 threads that cant use more than 2-3 cores it's pointless to use the cpu load as an indicator. I get 300 fps and stuff when you're sitting somewhere alone outside of a main city but that drops by 1000% once you engage a boss.

 

Not really, cpu's are barely capable of rendering frames if you make them do it, it's stupid because that will just create a bigger bottleneck and theyre not fast enough even a 3930K@100% would suck. Their job in games is feeding your gpu with information of how a frame should look like, doing physics, UI etc. It's not wow only it's the same thing with planetside 2, as long as you have thousands of people surrounding you shooting/casting spells you always get horrible frames. BF4 isn't really that much cpu bound but I bet if we could play 1000vs1000 TDM in operation locker expect a huge cpu bottleneck with all the explosive spammers.

 

 

There's no yes or no answer. Games where the i3 will be a bottleneck, so will the i5 be as well with a few exceptions of heavily multithreaded games which we have a few only.

 

Stop spraying misinformation every single time you post. I would love to see both of your 660ti's gpu load vs my two 780's and a 3930k with 4 cores disabled simulating a i3 in cpu limited games. Seen plenty of screenshots & video's with 8350's overclocked to 5GHz not even being close to push 2 cards above 40% load which would translate that they added a 2nd card when their cpu was already forming a bottleneck for a single card.

 

Ok...first of all these things dont work like the way u think...and who told u that at every point in the game gpu has to run at 99% then only cpu is not causing the bottleneck...at every point the requirement of the game is different....i can probably write a essay on how much wrong u r and u think...but there is no point here bcoz u already think here all the others are fools...so i m gonna carry on with my work...

[Faa]

nd who told u that at every point in the game gpu has to run at 99% then only cpu is not causing the bottleneck...

 

Learn to read; they don't have to run at 99%. I said they won't hit 99% if the CPU is the bottleneck.

 

.i can probably write a essay on how much wrong u r and u think...but there is no point here bcoz u already think here all the others are fools...so i m gonna carry on with my work...

 

A misinformative "essay" doesnt belong here in the forums.

- No cpu bottleneck hitting 200 fps cap in BF4 with 2 780's@50% equals a single 780@99%: http://i.imgur.com/TgwQd1p.jpg

- Downclocking the CPU to 1200MHz to simulate a cpu bottleneck, we get 2 780's@25% equals a single 780@50%: http://i.imgur.com/TuqnVvX.jpg

Now that you're proved wrong exactly you shouldn't write anything

[Cubit481]

 

Learn to read; they don't have to run at 99%. I said they won't hit 99% if the CPU is the bottleneck.

 

 

A misinformative "essay" doesnt belong here in the forums.

- No cpu bottleneck hitting 200 fps cap in BF4 with 2 780's@50% equals a single 780@99%: http://i.imgur.com/TgwQd1p.jpg

- Downclocking the CPU to 1200MHz to simulate a cpu bottleneck, we get 2 780's@25% equals a single 780@50%: http://i.imgur.com/TuqnVvX.jpg

Now that you're proved wrong exactly you shouldn't write anything

 

u just proved ur own point wrong...

[Cryptonite]

 

Learn to read; they don't have to run at 99%. I said they won't hit 99% if the CPU is the bottleneck.

 

 

A misinformative "essay" doesnt belong here in the forums.

- No cpu bottleneck hitting 200 fps cap in BF4 with 2 780's@50% equals a single 780@99%: http://i.imgur.com/TgwQd1p.jpg

- Downclocking the CPU to 1200MHz to simulate a cpu bottleneck, we get 2 780's@25% equals a single 780@50%: http://i.imgur.com/TuqnVvX.jpg

Now that you're proved wrong exactly you shouldn't write anything

 

you do know that that could be caused by your PSU right? anyway, try the latest Nvidia beta drivers they seem to split the utilization on the CPU a little better and also understand that SLI sucks ass for the time being, you would have been better off with a single card. I have never seen my FPS dip below 55 fps (vsync enabled) on WoW and it seems you are playing on a private server if those are 2x 780s since well yeah that's a SS of WoTLK and I personally with a single 680 on wrath never go below 60 fps maxed out with input latency reduction enabled (which reduces fps) on the WoTLK priv server I played on for the past 3 - 4 years