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Just remember correlation does not imply causation ;)

If you're transferring data to another computer on the local network, your Internet speeds do not matter, the speed of your local network does. This is because the packets will be addressed to a IP that would be in the router/switches tables, and it would deliver it directly. Even if the packet was address to your external IP, your router/modem would never send it out (it would say "oh! I have a packet addressed to myself, delivered!").

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So basically the title says most of it.

 

What I'm understanding is that, if say, I was streaming from my PC to a PC somewhere else in my house, like a laptop hooked up to a TV, I send my data to the router through LAN, which goes to the modem, and to the ISP. The ISP is the middleman that sends the data back, through the modem, to the router, and over WiFi, to the laptop. Correct?

 

If so, wouldn't it just be easier to have it as a three way AdHoc between the router and the two PCs?

 

Is that not what that not what Sony did with the Roku player when Remote Play was introduced on the PS3 and PSP?

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No, it sends the data with the address of the other PC to the router, then the Router sends it to the other PC.

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No, it sends the data with the address of the other PC to the router, then the Router sends it to the other PC.

But then why does your internet speed contribute to that? Shouldn't it then be completely separate?

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But then why does your internet speed contribute to that? Shouldn't it then be completely separate?

I don't think it does, I think it matters more the quality of your router.

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But then why does your internet speed contribute to that? Shouldn't it then be completely separate?

no your internet speed doesnt matter because its not leaving your house

your router is giving you a full 1Gbps connection from PC to PC

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I don't think it does, I think it matters more the quality of your router.

No, not really. I had a 1 megabit per second internet internet connection previously, and in-home streaming was just above slideshow quality.

 

I upgraded to 65 megabits per second and other than a few skipped frames, it's literally 65x smoother.

 

It also used to say "slow network" before.

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No, not really. I had a 1 megabit per second internet internet connection previously, and in-home streaming was just above slideshow quality.

 

I upgraded to 65 megabits per second and other than a few skipped frames, it's literally 65x smoother.

 

It also used to say "slow network" before.

I've got no clue then, but it's all done locally.

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I've got no clue then, but it's all done locally.

Alright thanks.

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No, not really. I had a 1 megabit per second internet internet connection previously, and in-home streaming was just above slideshow quality.

 

I upgraded to 65 megabits per second and other than a few skipped frames, it's literally 65x smoother.

 

It also used to say "slow network" before.

That doesn't make sense since I get 3Mb/s down and 1Mb/s up, and during the day I get around .5-1.5Mb/s down and .4-.7Mb/s up... And ever since I got a new router I can max the settings on it and stream it to my Dell with no higher then 30ms delay... Well spikes into 35ms delay.

 

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Just remember correlation does not imply causation ;)

If you're transferring data to another computer on the local network, your Internet speeds do not matter, the speed of your local network does. This is because the packets will be addressed to a IP that would be in the router/switches tables, and it would deliver it directly. Even if the packet was address to your external IP, your router/modem would never send it out (it would say "oh! I have a packet addressed to myself, delivered!").

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no your internet speed doesnt matter because its not leaving your house

your router is giving you a full 1Gbps connection from PC to PC

Depends on the router and cable being used.

 

You would need CAT5e or cat 6 to get gigabit speeds and a gigabit router.

 

 

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Depends on the router and cable being used.

You would need CAT5e or cat 6 to get gigabit speeds and a gigabit router.

You need Cat5 or higher to get gigabit ;)

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You need Cat5 or higher to get gigabit ;)

Cat5 goes to a max of 100mbit/s You would need Cat5e or Cat6 Cat 7 I believe is not used widespread nor is it the same connector as RJ45

 

 

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Cat5 goes to a max of 100mbit/s You would need Cat5e or Cat6 Cat 7 I believe is not used widespread nor is it the same connector as RJ45

Cat5 is in the specification for 1000base-t, it's a common misconception that it's not.

EDIT: Cat7 still uses a RJ45 connector.

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