is it possible?

[lukky211111]

is it possible to take the OS of the xbone or ps4 throw it onto a computer and use that computer as a beefed up console?

[Decon]

is it possible to take the OS of the xbone or ps4 throw it onto a computer and use that computer as a beefed up console?

with an emulator, yes.  Unfortunately at this time there are no emulators for Xbone/PS4

[Guest]

Nope.

[Geekazoid]

is it possible to take the OS of the xbone or ps4 throw it onto a computer and use that computer as a beefed up console?

Why would one want to do that? :huh:

[lukky211111]

with an emulator, yes.  Unfortunately at this time there are no emulators for Xbone/PS4

not an emulator just running the OS of a ps4 or xbone and using different computer parts as the system itself.

[lukky211111]

Why would one want to do that? :huh:

because im insane.

[lukky211111]

Nope.

explain.

[Geekazoid]

Because I'm insane.

Yes you are, in the membrane. JK

[lukky211111]

Yes you are, in the membrane. JK

i know i am thats why computers are perfect for me  .

[Enderman]

no because the OS of a console is coded for the specific hardware of that console

the instructions that the console processes are different from a PC, so you would need to use a emulator to simulate console hardware

[Guest]

explain.

I mean, technically we SHOULD be able to, because both new consoles use x86 processor architecture, just like regular PCs, but they use different components and instruction sets. (Previous consoles used custom ARM-based chips, I believe, and thus it was even less feasible to have their software run on regular PCs). Because of this, you can't just 'throw' the OS on there; and if you even got it running somehow, games are optimized specifically for all the components in an XBO/PS4, and absolutely not for your PC's components, even if they're high-end. It's not a matter of getting games to see your PC as a console, it's a matter of games not being programmed to run on typical PC hardware. You can't open up a PS4 and just find an R9 280 plugged into a PCI-e slot.

However, both consoles and PCs using x86 architectures has benefits; because they are so similar, developers can much more easily port to PC from consoles (and vice versa), because they dont need to completely rewrite low-level code - they can, in a sense, pick up and move some parts of it with little recoding.

[lukky211111]

no because the OS of a console is coded for the specific hardware of that console

the instructions that the console processes are different from a PC, so you would need to use a emulator to simulate console hardware

so in that case even if i simulated the hardware it wouldnt matter cuz then i couldnt use a higher end cpu or gpu. correct?

[Aniallation]

so in that case even if i simulated the hardware it wouldnt matter cuz then i couldnt use a higher end cpu or gpu. correct?

Dude, there's a reason why iOS doesn't run on Android phones or vice versa. When software and hardware are incompatible, nothing useful will happen when the two are combined.

[lukky211111]

I mean, technically we SHOULD be able to, because both new consoles use x86 processor architecture, just like regular PCs, but they use different components and instruction sets. (Previous consoles used custom ARM-based chips, I believe, and thus it was even less feasible to have their software run on regular PCs). Because of this, you can't just 'throw' the OS on there; and if you even got it running somehow, games are optimized specifically for all the components in an XBO/PS4, and absolutely not for your PC's components, even if they're high-end. It's not a matter of getting games to see your PC as a console, it's a matter of games not being programmed to run on typical PC hardware. You can't open up a PS4 and just find an R9 280 plugged into a PCI-e slot.

However, both consoles and PCs using x86 architectures has benefits; because they are so similar, developers can much more easily port to PC from consoles (and vice versa), because they dont need to completely rewrite low-level code - they can, in a sense, pick up and move some parts of it will little recoding.

damn id love to see someone hack the ps4 os an make a better console.

[Enderman]

so in that case even if i simulated the hardware it wouldnt matter cuz then i couldnt use a higher end cpu or gpu. correct?

no, you just need to simulate how the hardware processes code

the problem is that simulating this usually takes much more power than just using a console, giving you worse performance in the first place

 

if emulators were more efficient it would be easier to get better performance than a console, but emulators are very difficult to make

[lukky211111]

Dude, there's a reason why iOS doesn't run on Android phones or vice versa. When software and hardware are incompatible, nothing useful will happen when the two are combined.

im very new to technology like this.

[lukky211111]

no, you just need to simulate how the hardware processes code

the problem is that simulating this usually takes much more power than just using a console, giving you worse performance in the first place

 

if emulators were more efficient it would be easier to get better performance than a console, but emulators are very difficult to make

oh well it was worth a shot at the thought.

[Guest]

im very new to technology like this.

It's mainly code; an Apple A8 chip has specific APIs and instruction sets that it interprets as commands. If you tried to run iOS on an Android phone, it wouldn't recognize those special instruction sets as anything it could use.

So to emulate, you'd need a device much more powerful, so it could 'pretend' to be a different device, but it's much less efficient - that's why we have GameCube emulators, but not Xbox 360 emulators. Computers aren't yet powerful enough to 'pretend' to be running 360 hardware. It's something like 50 times the performance is needed, I think. I could be wrong.

An emulator has to interpret each instruction set and say 'what would the original hardware do?' Thus wasting time and energy, whereas the original hardware just sees it as any other set, and can quickly execute it.

[lukky211111]

It's mainly code; an Apple A8 chip has specific APIs and instruction sets that it interprets as commands. If you tried to run iOS on an Android phone, it wouldn't recognize those special instruction sets as anything it could use.

So to emulate, you'd need a device much more powerful, so it could 'pretend' to be a different device, but it's much less efficient - that's why we have GameCube emulators, but not Xbox 360 emulators. Computers aren't yet powerful enough to 'pretend' to be running 360 hardware. It's something like 50 times the performance is needed, I think. I could be wrong.

An emulator has to interpret each instruction set and say 'what would the original hardware do?' Thus wasting time and energy, whereas the original hardware just sees it as any other set, and can quickly execute it.

youve restored my faith in this community. thank you very much for your explination the details mean a lot to someone like me.

[Enderman]

oh well it was worth a shot at the thought.

emulators are hard

really hard...

[lukky211111]

emulators are hard

really hard...

thats what ive heard. also thank you for your detailed answers i appreciate them as well as your patience. i cant tell you how much it truely means to me as im trying my best to learn about technology. i have a hard time finding actual answers on this forum as well as finding people who can help me better understand technology.

[Enderman]

thats what ive heard. also thank you for your detailed answers i appreciate them as well as your patience. i cant tell you how much it truely means to me as im trying my best to learn about technology. i have a hard time finding actual answers on this forum as well as finding people who can help me better understand technology.

You're welcome